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If the Shadow had removed Elaida so Egwene was Amyrlin whilst Rand was still Dark ... ajfurst Send a noteboard - 16/12/2010 11:56:08 PM
Egwene on the other hand....if the Dark One had had a clue, he could have done as much damage if not more arguebly by focusing his efforts on Egwene instead of Rand throughout the books but that's here nor there at this point.

Yep, just think how well things would have gone if the Shadow had seen Elaida pulled down months earlier to let Egwene take charge. Even if she had subsequently purged the BA, imagine a confrontation between Mary Sue and Dark Rand. Whether Rand killed most of the AS or the AS shielded Rand (likely precipitating his followers to attack the Tower) it would have been all over for the Light.
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Egwene, a poor leader? redhand - 16/12/2010 05:59:15 PM 2336 Views
Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician. lilltempest - 16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM 1504 Views
Well! No love lost there echooff - 17/12/2010 01:52:59 PM 1005 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? RabidWombat - 16/12/2010 09:35:44 PM 1278 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Hot Pie - 16/12/2010 10:53:20 PM 1187 Views
If the Shadow had removed Elaida so Egwene was Amyrlin whilst Rand was still Dark ... ajfurst - 16/12/2010 11:56:08 PM 1148 Views
Same thing if Elaida was in charge when meeting w/ Dark Rand. *NM* Lord Haart - 17/12/2010 02:10:20 AM 623 Views
Except Rand wouldn't go to the WT with Elaida in charge, without having to fight ajfurst - 17/12/2010 02:50:18 AM 1276 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 17/12/2010 03:07:40 AM 1280 Views
Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? moratcorlm - 17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM 1067 Views
Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? fairfax - 17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM 1167 Views
That was the case a few books back Lord Haart - 17/12/2010 07:44:32 AM 1166 Views
Re: That was the case a few books back fairfax - 17/12/2010 10:14:36 AM 1166 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Macharius - 17/12/2010 02:30:48 PM 1236 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 17/12/2010 08:25:39 PM 998 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:06:21 AM 1153 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 19/12/2010 08:41:31 PM 1066 Views
Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM* moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM 654 Views
Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. fairfax - 20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM 1117 Views
And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM 1228 Views
That's not quite true. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:47:33 PM 1042 Views
That's not quite accurate. moratcorlm - 21/12/2010 01:22:26 AM 1287 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 20/12/2010 12:57:42 AM 1000 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 20/12/2010 02:02:05 AM 1149 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 22/12/2010 07:08:37 AM 1058 Views
She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM 1155 Views
Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue lilltempest - 17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM 1543 Views
I see them as being the same thing. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM 1166 Views
I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy A Deathwatch Guard - 17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM 1078 Views
I would say that in the grand scheme of things, Rand's had good to balance out the bad. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:27:35 PM 1065 Views
Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM 1169 Views
Agree with your comments. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 03:12:32 PM 1525 Views
But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:17:17 PM 1475 Views
Re: But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters. Lord Haart - 22/12/2010 05:28:01 PM 1251 Views
You need to post more about Egwene Zeratul - 17/12/2010 08:16:19 PM 1151 Views
Nah. Just a hyopcrite. *NM* Chas - 17/12/2010 09:28:28 PM 621 Views
Yes, but for completely different reasons... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM 1196 Views
Yes, communication is key. Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:32:01 AM 1057 Views
You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? Lohikaarme - 18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM 1021 Views
Re: You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 02:41:25 PM 940 Views
Definitely... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM 1057 Views
Where does the 200000 number come from? *NM* moratcorlm - 18/12/2010 03:36:22 PM 570 Views
That's not right... Hot Pie - 19/12/2010 12:56:25 AM 1037 Views
Re: That's not right... fairfax - 19/12/2010 11:38:54 PM 1152 Views
What's said above. Plus Lohikaarme - 19/12/2010 11:00:42 AM 999 Views
More explanations... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 02:51:25 AM 1028 Views
Re: More explanations... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:40:46 AM 1079 Views
Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power. Lohikaarme - 20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM 1086 Views
Re: More explanations... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 03:58:58 PM 1205 Views
An Amyrlin doesn't really have a power base. BlackAdder - 18/12/2010 05:43:12 AM 1136 Views
I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts. Joel - 20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM 1023 Views
She has a pretty powerful weapon... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM 1044 Views
RJ is more powerful. Joel - 20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM 1169 Views
I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 03:58:03 AM 1093 Views
Re: I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... Lohikaarme - 21/12/2010 09:08:20 PM 1091 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM 1130 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM 996 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 10:27:59 AM 1085 Views
One example of this... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 11:15:03 AM 1118 Views
Re: One example of this... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 11:22:10 AM 982 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 11:08:35 AM 1066 Views
That's not quite true. Chas - 20/12/2010 10:35:45 PM 1087 Views
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