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I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts. Joel Send a noteboard - 20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM
Anyone who strongly likes the one and dislikes the other will probably resent that analgoy, and anyone who dislikes both will say it's justified.

Without getting into THAT, she could be in a great position to be The Great Unifier, except I think she's going to blow it by being bullheaded with Rand when both the Pattern and RJ are on his side. At this point he almost IS an UNSTOPPABLE JUGGERNAUT, and she seems more likely to be doing exactly what Rand has envisioned for her with the Westlands armies: Unified and consolidated virtually all the groups he hasn't been able to get to directly or otherwise so that he can just step in and take the reins.

She's got good charisma and adaptability, and she made the right decisions to restore the Tower to a degree of integrity and strength it hasn't had since long before Elaida usurped Siuans place. She's been right and steadfast in her convictions when everyone else was unanimously against her, and that's averted disaster numerous times. No Aes Sedai would dare gainsay her at this point; every one whose tried has ended up either falling in line or ruined forever, and those who remain, from both the Usurper Tower and the Tower in Exile, are unanimously behind her.

Unfortunately, she's just as defiantly wrong about the Seals, and unless SHE falls in line soon she's going to be publicly and spectacularly so. All her hard patient work in building a very real power base among various Aes Sedai and other channeling factions desperate for a leader will do her no good if she plummets to earth. That simply leaves a power vacuum into which Rand can step without a pause, but perhaps that's the point.

MY point is that just because someone goes from "maverick" to "party man" and back to "maverick" all in less than a year doesn't mean they aren't a good leader so long as they do it for sincere and legitimate reasons, though of course if they're simply changing their public positions like a weathervane in a twister to GAIN leadership it means exactly that. ;)
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Egwene, a poor leader? - 16/12/2010 05:59:15 PM 2481 Views
Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician. - 16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM 1662 Views
Well! No love lost there - 17/12/2010 01:52:59 PM 1141 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 16/12/2010 09:35:44 PM 1416 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 16/12/2010 10:53:20 PM 1375 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 17/12/2010 03:07:40 AM 1422 Views
Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? - 17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM 1235 Views
Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? - 17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM 1304 Views
That was the case a few books back - 17/12/2010 07:44:32 AM 1308 Views
Re: That was the case a few books back - 17/12/2010 10:14:36 AM 1339 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 17/12/2010 02:30:48 PM 1378 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 17/12/2010 08:25:39 PM 1116 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 18/12/2010 05:06:21 AM 1317 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 19/12/2010 08:41:31 PM 1223 Views
Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM* - 20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM 732 Views
Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. - 20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM 1246 Views
And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene - 20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM 1370 Views
That's not quite true. - 20/12/2010 06:47:33 PM 1162 Views
That's not quite accurate. - 21/12/2010 01:22:26 AM 1405 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 20/12/2010 12:57:42 AM 1137 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 20/12/2010 02:02:05 AM 1299 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 22/12/2010 07:08:37 AM 1228 Views
She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV - 17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM 1311 Views
Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue - 17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM 1755 Views
I see them as being the same thing. - 17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM 1335 Views
I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy - 17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM 1218 Views
I would say that in the grand scheme of things, Rand's had good to balance out the bad. - 20/12/2010 06:27:35 PM 1206 Views
Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM 1312 Views
Agree with your comments. - 20/12/2010 03:12:32 PM 1669 Views
You need to post more about Egwene - 17/12/2010 08:16:19 PM 1288 Views
Nah. Just a hyopcrite. *NM* - 17/12/2010 09:28:28 PM 697 Views
Yes, but for completely different reasons... - 18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM 1331 Views
Yes, communication is key. - 18/12/2010 05:32:01 AM 1165 Views
You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? - 18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM 1157 Views
Re: You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? - 18/12/2010 02:41:25 PM 1081 Views
Definitely... - 18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM 1186 Views
Where does the 200000 number come from? *NM* - 18/12/2010 03:36:22 PM 630 Views
That's not right... - 19/12/2010 12:56:25 AM 1169 Views
Re: That's not right... - 19/12/2010 11:38:54 PM 1284 Views
What's said above. Plus - 19/12/2010 11:00:42 AM 1136 Views
More explanations... - 20/12/2010 02:51:25 AM 1171 Views
Re: More explanations... - 20/12/2010 09:40:46 AM 1243 Views
Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power. - 20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM 1259 Views
Re: More explanations... - 20/12/2010 03:58:58 PM 1346 Views
An Amyrlin doesn't really have a power base. - 18/12/2010 05:43:12 AM 1250 Views
I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts. - 20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM 1161 Views
She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM 1188 Views
RJ is more powerful. - 20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM 1319 Views
I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... - 20/12/2010 03:58:03 AM 1222 Views
Re: I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... - 21/12/2010 09:08:20 PM 1217 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM 1266 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM 1160 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 10:27:59 AM 1222 Views
One example of this... - 20/12/2010 11:15:03 AM 1256 Views
Re: One example of this... - 20/12/2010 11:22:10 AM 1122 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 11:08:35 AM 1191 Views
That's not quite true. - 20/12/2010 10:35:45 PM 1219 Views

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