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Re: I had no idea about these legalities. DomA Send a noteboard - 22/09/2009 06:25:20 PM
I really didn't. I assumed if someone had a copy there was a reason, like they were supposed to share their opinion.


That's precisely the point of ARCs, and nowadays publishers love to use non-traditional medias, like Blogs, fan sites etc. Tons more ARC are distributed around, and leftovers are often given away in contests weeks before the book is released etc.

And if Tor is sending out copies before Oct. 27 after all, there's no harm no foul in publishing reviews - that would be why they send copies to people in the first place. But for TGS, it appears every reviewer who asked have been told "Sorry, no ARC printed for TGS, we can get you a copy for release day".

When reputable people/bloggers with established ties to publishers (incl. a few experienced reviewers like Larry from OF and Ken of nethspace, Pat's Fantasy Blog, Adam from Wertzone etc.) start posting reviews, the odds jo-blo poster on a MB has also gotten a copy somehow will be increased a little, but for now you can count on those reviews being fake or from copies obtained illegally.

Normally, there would be more than Jason having a review up by this point. Back in the day, TL, Wot Encyclopedia, Wotmania, Tarvalon.net would all have non spoiler reviews up by this point, and some online media would publish theirs too. There may well be more reviews down the line for all I know, but it's also well known how much Harriet, Brandon and co. dislike spoilers - an this ought to be respected. Some love to use spoilers and half-spoilers as a mean to generate hype, but it's never been the case with WOT. Back in August Brandon didn't even want to mention in Q&A vague stuff he was aware had been officially released - even which two story lines were the focus of the book. He knew it was around, even told people who wanted to know where to look for the info, but he wouldn't speak of it openly (nor does he do on his blog, where he's extremely careful about the information he shares - no doubt knowing very well it's gonna be everywhere after that, and considered legitimate to spread without warning).

The secrets of the book being spread around would not harm Tor's sales, but they sure would piss off Harriet, Brandon etc. Most fans want to discover those for themselves in the book itself - not by accident coming on a MB, whether the spoilers are real or invented by morons with nothing better to do than pulling starved fans' legs.

We waited five years, what's five more weeks before we can judge TGS for ourselves and with a fresh eye anyway?
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Do you guys want pre-release reviews on this board? - 20/09/2009 08:40:03 AM 1681 Views
Yes. - 20/09/2009 11:56:22 AM 1024 Views
Sorry wrong place. *NM* - 20/09/2009 05:31:27 PM 454 Views
Yes - 20/09/2009 01:12:18 PM 955 Views
No. *NM* - 20/09/2009 01:26:48 PM 459 Views
No, I prefer to see them after the 27th. - 20/09/2009 01:42:38 PM 806 Views
They don't have to read them if they don't want to *NM* - 21/09/2009 01:54:30 AM 457 Views
NO! *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:05:47 PM 507 Views
No *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:22:15 PM 555 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:08:41 PM 506 Views
Yes please! *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:40:41 PM 517 Views
NO *NM* - 20/09/2009 04:16:55 PM 459 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 04:17:32 PM 507 Views
Re: Do you guys want pre-release reviews on this board? - 20/09/2009 05:33:49 PM 820 Views
I just hate getting interupted. even if I'm at work *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:12:13 PM 452 Views
Sorry wrong place *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:12:54 PM 465 Views
We need them to maintain the spike in activity. - 20/09/2009 05:34:14 PM 933 Views
YES. *NM* - 20/09/2009 05:44:48 PM 472 Views
Can anyone who voted no explain why? - 20/09/2009 05:51:51 PM 836 Views
Yes, why not? - 20/09/2009 06:18:42 PM 1124 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 06:30:54 PM 439 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 06:39:34 PM 445 Views
Yes. I see no reason not to. *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:08:47 PM 452 Views
No, I'll just read them and then go regretting it *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:18:27 PM 495 Views
Yes! - 20/09/2009 07:30:59 PM 834 Views
yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:46:37 PM 501 Views
Yes - 20/09/2009 08:34:03 PM 772 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:08:42 PM 457 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:17:51 PM 458 Views
Yes- Give ppl the option to see the reviews *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:03:27 AM 453 Views
Yes *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:33:13 AM 426 Views
I vote yes. - 21/09/2009 04:21:28 AM 867 Views
Yes - 21/09/2009 06:12:37 AM 826 Views
Yes - 21/09/2009 09:32:56 AM 815 Views
Yes. Don't click the link if you don't want to read it. *NM* - 21/09/2009 02:39:16 PM 482 Views
No - 21/09/2009 06:15:19 PM 895 Views
I think you missread the rules... - 21/09/2009 08:24:22 PM 1358 Views
so you want to give the admins all kinds of extra work? - 22/09/2009 02:16:56 AM 862 Views
I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 05:06:13 AM 1009 Views
I hadn't thought about all that, you should have made some kind of pros and cons list - 22/09/2009 08:53:39 AM 949 Views
Re: I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 11:45:26 AM 857 Views
So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:03:16 PM 834 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:16:57 PM 996 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:42:55 PM 1234 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 01:20:58 PM 832 Views
Re: I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 02:39:55 PM 1013 Views
As I mentioned elsewhere - 22/09/2009 02:51:00 PM 755 Views
I had no idea about these legalities. - 22/09/2009 05:44:18 PM 831 Views
Re: I had no idea about these legalities. - 22/09/2009 06:25:20 PM 728 Views
Good to know. - 22/09/2009 10:19:57 PM 948 Views
I'm shitfitng to no too. Hope more people change their votes. - 22/09/2009 10:34:22 PM 1066 Views
Re: Good to know. - 22/09/2009 11:01:35 PM 860 Views
Interesting - 23/09/2009 12:16:38 AM 955 Views
How much is that infamous COT review to blame? - 24/09/2009 05:01:29 AM 750 Views
Well, Rand IS a transvestite - not exactly a spoiler anymore. - 22/09/2009 08:29:12 AM 833 Views
No, no, no, no, no! *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:31:22 PM 428 Views
You're going to ban/forbid spoiler filled reviews? Weak. - 22/09/2009 08:26:15 AM 798 Views
Ever hear of Napster? - 22/09/2009 12:11:02 PM 760 Views
But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 23/09/2009 12:36:35 AM 929 Views
Sounds right to me. - 23/09/2009 12:27:57 PM 1018 Views
Thank you for the clarification. - 23/09/2009 07:04:13 PM 817 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 23/09/2009 07:33:11 PM 1072 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 27/09/2009 02:41:11 AM 879 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 28/09/2009 07:53:46 PM 826 Views
Baloney. The two are not related at all. *NM* - 23/09/2009 07:00:47 PM 474 Views
Yes, as long as no-spoiler policy is employed. *NM* - 23/09/2009 12:04:41 AM 434 Views
No *NM* - 25/09/2009 07:05:03 AM 440 Views

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