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Good to know. Seriana Sedai Send a noteboard - 22/09/2009 10:19:57 PM
I really didn't. I assumed if someone had a copy there was a reason, like they were supposed to share their opinion.


That's precisely the point of ARCs, and nowadays publishers love to use non-traditional medias, like Blogs, fan sites etc. Tons more ARC are distributed around, and leftovers are often given away in contests weeks before the book is released etc.

And if Tor is sending out copies before Oct. 27 after all, there's no harm no foul in publishing reviews - that would be why they send copies to people in the first place. But for TGS, it appears every reviewer who asked have been told "Sorry, no ARC printed for TGS, we can get you a copy for release day".

When reputable people/bloggers with established ties to publishers (incl. a few experienced reviewers like Larry from OF and Ken of nethspace, Pat's Fantasy Blog, Adam from Wertzone etc.) start posting reviews, the odds jo-blo poster on a MB has also gotten a copy somehow will be increased a little, but for now you can count on those reviews being fake or from copies obtained illegally.

Normally, there would be more than Jason having a review up by this point. Back in the day, TL, Wot Encyclopedia, Wotmania, Tarvalon.net would all have non spoiler reviews up by this point, and some online media would publish theirs too. There may well be more reviews down the line for all I know, but it's also well known how much Harriet, Brandon and co. dislike spoilers - an this ought to be respected. Some love to use spoilers and half-spoilers as a mean to generate hype, but it's never been the case with WOT. Back in August Brandon didn't even want to mention in Q&A vague stuff he was aware had been officially released - even which two story lines were the focus of the book. He knew it was around, even told people who wanted to know where to look for the info, but he wouldn't speak of it openly (nor does he do on his blog, where he's extremely careful about the information he shares - no doubt knowing very well it's gonna be everywhere after that, and considered legitimate to spread without warning).

The secrets of the book being spread around would not harm Tor's sales, but they sure would piss off Harriet, Brandon etc. Most fans want to discover those for themselves in the book itself - not by accident coming on a MB, whether the spoilers are real or invented by morons with nothing better to do than pulling starved fans' legs.

We waited five years, what's five more weeks before we can judge TGS for ourselves and with a fresh eye anyway?

I hadn't heard that Harriet and Brandon didn't want anything out there. Of course I wouldn't have voted for something that was against their wishes if I had. So yeah, I take back my yes vote now that I know this. And I kind of feel like a jerk.
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Do you guys want pre-release reviews on this board? - 20/09/2009 08:40:03 AM 1892 Views
Yes. - 20/09/2009 11:56:22 AM 1213 Views
Sorry wrong place. *NM* - 20/09/2009 05:31:27 PM 584 Views
Yes - 20/09/2009 01:12:18 PM 1142 Views
No. *NM* - 20/09/2009 01:26:48 PM 581 Views
No, I prefer to see them after the 27th. - 20/09/2009 01:42:38 PM 976 Views
They don't have to read them if they don't want to *NM* - 21/09/2009 01:54:30 AM 602 Views
NO! *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:05:47 PM 632 Views
No *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:22:15 PM 712 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:08:41 PM 643 Views
Yes please! *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:40:41 PM 647 Views
NO *NM* - 20/09/2009 04:16:55 PM 601 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 04:17:32 PM 645 Views
Re: Do you guys want pre-release reviews on this board? - 20/09/2009 05:33:49 PM 989 Views
I just hate getting interupted. even if I'm at work *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:12:13 PM 577 Views
Sorry wrong place *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:12:54 PM 582 Views
We need them to maintain the spike in activity. - 20/09/2009 05:34:14 PM 1112 Views
YES. *NM* - 20/09/2009 05:44:48 PM 596 Views
Can anyone who voted no explain why? - 20/09/2009 05:51:51 PM 1013 Views
Yes, why not? - 20/09/2009 06:18:42 PM 1314 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 06:30:54 PM 577 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 06:39:34 PM 566 Views
Yes. I see no reason not to. *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:08:47 PM 571 Views
No, I'll just read them and then go regretting it *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:18:27 PM 619 Views
Yes! - 20/09/2009 07:30:59 PM 1019 Views
yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:46:37 PM 636 Views
Yes - 20/09/2009 08:34:03 PM 954 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:08:42 PM 578 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:17:51 PM 588 Views
Yes- Give ppl the option to see the reviews *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:03:27 AM 575 Views
Yes *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:33:13 AM 547 Views
I vote yes. - 21/09/2009 04:21:28 AM 1051 Views
Yes - 21/09/2009 06:12:37 AM 999 Views
Yes - 21/09/2009 09:32:56 AM 986 Views
Yes. Don't click the link if you don't want to read it. *NM* - 21/09/2009 02:39:16 PM 618 Views
No - 21/09/2009 06:15:19 PM 1068 Views
I think you missread the rules... - 21/09/2009 08:24:22 PM 1525 Views
so you want to give the admins all kinds of extra work? - 22/09/2009 02:16:56 AM 1047 Views
I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 05:06:13 AM 1239 Views
I hadn't thought about all that, you should have made some kind of pros and cons list - 22/09/2009 08:53:39 AM 1143 Views
Re: I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 11:45:26 AM 1057 Views
So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:03:16 PM 998 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:16:57 PM 1182 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:42:55 PM 1418 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 01:20:58 PM 1032 Views
Re: I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 02:39:55 PM 1200 Views
As I mentioned elsewhere - 22/09/2009 02:51:00 PM 936 Views
I had no idea about these legalities. - 22/09/2009 05:44:18 PM 1023 Views
Re: I had no idea about these legalities. - 22/09/2009 06:25:20 PM 920 Views
Good to know. - 22/09/2009 10:19:57 PM 1143 Views
I'm shitfitng to no too. Hope more people change their votes. - 22/09/2009 10:34:22 PM 1253 Views
Re: Good to know. - 22/09/2009 11:01:35 PM 1033 Views
Interesting - 23/09/2009 12:16:38 AM 1126 Views
How much is that infamous COT review to blame? - 24/09/2009 05:01:29 AM 929 Views
Well, Rand IS a transvestite - not exactly a spoiler anymore. - 22/09/2009 08:29:12 AM 1005 Views
No, no, no, no, no! *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:31:22 PM 554 Views
You're going to ban/forbid spoiler filled reviews? Weak. - 22/09/2009 08:26:15 AM 988 Views
Ever hear of Napster? - 22/09/2009 12:11:02 PM 923 Views
But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 23/09/2009 12:36:35 AM 1124 Views
Sounds right to me. - 23/09/2009 12:27:57 PM 1211 Views
Thank you for the clarification. - 23/09/2009 07:04:13 PM 975 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 23/09/2009 07:33:11 PM 1277 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 27/09/2009 02:41:11 AM 1094 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 28/09/2009 07:53:46 PM 1002 Views
Baloney. The two are not related at all. *NM* - 23/09/2009 07:00:47 PM 595 Views
Yes, as long as no-spoiler policy is employed. *NM* - 23/09/2009 12:04:41 AM 561 Views
No *NM* - 25/09/2009 07:05:03 AM 567 Views

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