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Dead. Seriana Sedai Send a noteboard - 02/11/2009 06:46:10 AM
Alive? Dead? What are your thoughts...

I personally believe that she survived by some weird circumstance. It seems that I had read somewhere that Brandon was supposed to answer the "who killed Asmodean" question in the final three books and seeing as how it was not answered in this one and if Graendal did kill Asmodean, who will reveal it later on. I doubt that she had cohorts in the Asmodean assassination, much less would speak about it in casual conversation with the other Chosen.

Just a couple of thoughts to chew on...

She was one of my favorite Forsaken so I wish she'd had a big moment for herself, but her death is a huge moment in Rand's character progression. So much of the weight of that scene is just gone (in my opinion) if she managed to wiggle out of it.
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Graendal's fate? Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:18:11 AM 1995 Views
Dead. Great Lord of Chaos - 02/11/2009 04:22:48 AM 954 Views
Maybe... Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:28:16 AM 927 Views
I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. LlordNakcor - 02/11/2009 04:36:37 AM 969 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:40:30 AM 947 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. Grimbear - 02/11/2009 05:08:09 AM 864 Views
Why has she been removed from the list of suspects? beetnemesis - 02/11/2009 02:29:41 PM 849 Views
She is dead dacole - 09/11/2009 01:37:03 AM 803 Views
That's pretty terrible logic beetnemesis - 19/11/2009 05:58:57 AM 974 Views
I disagree. Rand al'Thor - 02/11/2009 10:29:21 PM 813 Views
Agreed. *NM* Lord Haart - 19/11/2009 11:43:45 AM 394 Views
Could it have been Verin who killed Asmodean? Bookwyrm - 02/11/2009 05:20:37 AM 1376 Views
She is dead *spoilers* brett014 - 02/11/2009 05:44:21 AM 959 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* Gaidal Craig - 03/11/2009 09:01:07 AM 826 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* dacole - 09/11/2009 01:38:56 AM 925 Views
I thought so too, but KCF set me straight.. his response in a thread further down the board kavorka - 02/11/2009 05:56:40 PM 902 Views
I say dead. *NM* Gher - 02/11/2009 06:07:15 AM 437 Views
Dead. Seriana Sedai - 02/11/2009 06:46:10 AM 812 Views
Dead as Dumbledore. But why does it preclude her from being Asmo's killer? Master Radishes - 02/11/2009 07:04:08 AM 894 Views
Right. That info could easily be revealed through the POV of another. *NM* RandAllThor - 02/11/2009 02:15:31 PM 394 Views
It could but... Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 03:14:23 PM 891 Views
Moridin would most likely know. RandAllThor - 02/11/2009 04:06:04 PM 815 Views
Well.... Etzel - 02/11/2009 08:52:52 AM 852 Views
*NM* BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:45:52 PM 376 Views
Alive until proven otherwise IMO *spoilers* Dragonsworn - 02/11/2009 03:47:51 PM 871 Views
That weave was very complex. Kronin al'Sulc - 02/11/2009 10:34:36 PM 794 Views
Actually, the one that Rand had Nynaeve study earlier was more complex. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 05:11:07 PM 872 Views
But you can't reverse Compulsion by unraveling it, right? BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:48:08 PM 821 Views
Almost certainly dead Isaac - 02/11/2009 04:48:18 PM 970 Views
Yeah. Compared to, say, Sammael's "death" beetnemesis - 02/11/2009 10:40:01 PM 874 Views
Not even almost. Graendal and Sammael now both go well with eggs. *NM* Marshall - 03/11/2009 01:51:15 AM 422 Views
Oh, I agree, but fiction, deus ex machina, etc Isaac - 04/11/2009 09:58:42 PM 803 Views
Graendal is dead. the evidence is pretty hard NaClH2O - 03/11/2009 08:00:27 PM 3142 Views
Well, unlike everyone else, Fred Gaidin - 04/11/2009 01:34:57 AM 802 Views
Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was more cunning RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 05:03:38 PM 995 Views
Re: Balefire. Kaldric - 04/11/2009 05:30:12 PM 822 Views
Not necessarily. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 06:08:34 PM 785 Views
The thing is... Etzel - 04/11/2009 06:25:43 PM 857 Views
Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 10:30:05 PM 1047 Views
Re: Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:48:30 AM 990 Views
Hm. Possible. Kaldric - 04/11/2009 06:42:12 PM 1089 Views
I think it's the most simple possibility. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 10:39:02 PM 812 Views
Re: I think it's the most simple possibility. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:51:52 AM 750 Views
That's just absurd Marshall - 04/11/2009 10:48:30 PM 895 Views
No, I'm making it more simple. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 11:11:36 PM 838 Views
That thoery doesn't account for the undoing of the Compulsion Marshall - 04/11/2009 11:50:06 PM 841 Views
Yes, it does. Distance causes maintained weaves and Links to attenuate. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/11/2009 04:22:37 PM 891 Views
Yes, but Compulsion is almost never a maintained weave *NM* Marshall - 06/11/2009 07:19:24 PM 443 Views
But the real question in my mind... darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 08:28:31 PM 804 Views
Well Marshall - 06/12/2009 08:45:12 PM 1252 Views
Odds are she's dead darius_sedai - 06/12/2009 08:48:19 PM 699 Views
Re: No, I'm making it more simple. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:53:49 AM 815 Views
Amen! Praise the Great Lord of the Dark! **I agree with all points** Bookwyrm - 05/11/2009 07:21:52 AM 841 Views
Re: Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:52:36 PM 813 Views
This sounds familiar. Fanatic-Templar - 09/11/2009 06:54:17 AM 753 Views
Yes... Etzel - 17/11/2009 12:12:04 PM 755 Views
Yeah, I was shocked initially. BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:58:15 PM 832 Views
Proof for reincarnation exists Lord Haart - 26/11/2009 06:38:17 PM 777 Views
RJ said... Etzel - 26/11/2009 06:51:26 PM 937 Views
But Rand's was spread over a LARGE area *NM* Lord Haart - 27/11/2009 12:17:47 AM 352 Views
He was drawing through the Choedan Kal... *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/11/2009 01:09:23 AM 343 Views
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