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Well, unlike everyone else, Fred Gaidin Send a noteboard - 04/11/2009 01:34:57 AM
Alive? Dead? What are your thoughts...

I personally believe that she survived by some weird circumstance. It seems that I had read somewhere that Brandon was supposed to answer the "who killed Asmodean" question in the final three books and seeing as how it was not answered in this one and if Graendal did kill Asmodean, who will reveal it later on. I doubt that she had cohorts in the Asmodean assassination, much less would speak about it in casual conversation with the other Chosen.

Just a couple of thoughts to chew on...


I don't think she has to be dead based on the events which occurred. That being said, she could very well be dead. Of course, I thought there was a way that Min's viewing of Moiraine could come to pass without Moiraine still being alive. Clearly, that isn't the case.
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Graendal's fate? Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:18:11 AM 2082 Views
Dead. Great Lord of Chaos - 02/11/2009 04:22:48 AM 1033 Views
Maybe... Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:28:16 AM 1021 Views
I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. LlordNakcor - 02/11/2009 04:36:37 AM 1052 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:40:30 AM 1045 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. Grimbear - 02/11/2009 05:08:09 AM 950 Views
Why has she been removed from the list of suspects? beetnemesis - 02/11/2009 02:29:41 PM 943 Views
She is dead dacole - 09/11/2009 01:37:03 AM 889 Views
That's pretty terrible logic beetnemesis - 19/11/2009 05:58:57 AM 1064 Views
I disagree. Rand al'Thor - 02/11/2009 10:29:21 PM 900 Views
Agreed. *NM* Lord Haart - 19/11/2009 11:43:45 AM 451 Views
Could it have been Verin who killed Asmodean? Bookwyrm - 02/11/2009 05:20:37 AM 1454 Views
She is dead *spoilers* brett014 - 02/11/2009 05:44:21 AM 1043 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* Gaidal Craig - 03/11/2009 09:01:07 AM 917 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* dacole - 09/11/2009 01:38:56 AM 1034 Views
I thought so too, but KCF set me straight.. his response in a thread further down the board kavorka - 02/11/2009 05:56:40 PM 981 Views
I say dead. *NM* Gher - 02/11/2009 06:07:15 AM 473 Views
Dead. Seriana Sedai - 02/11/2009 06:46:10 AM 915 Views
Dead as Dumbledore. But why does it preclude her from being Asmo's killer? Master Radishes - 02/11/2009 07:04:08 AM 978 Views
Right. That info could easily be revealed through the POV of another. *NM* RandAllThor - 02/11/2009 02:15:31 PM 440 Views
It could but... Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 03:14:23 PM 982 Views
Moridin would most likely know. RandAllThor - 02/11/2009 04:06:04 PM 894 Views
Well.... Etzel - 02/11/2009 08:52:52 AM 954 Views
*NM* BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:45:52 PM 412 Views
Alive until proven otherwise IMO *spoilers* Dragonsworn - 02/11/2009 03:47:51 PM 951 Views
That weave was very complex. Kronin al'Sulc - 02/11/2009 10:34:36 PM 876 Views
Actually, the one that Rand had Nynaeve study earlier was more complex. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 05:11:07 PM 947 Views
But you can't reverse Compulsion by unraveling it, right? BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:48:08 PM 906 Views
Almost certainly dead Isaac - 02/11/2009 04:48:18 PM 1062 Views
Yeah. Compared to, say, Sammael's "death" beetnemesis - 02/11/2009 10:40:01 PM 963 Views
Not even almost. Graendal and Sammael now both go well with eggs. *NM* Marshall - 03/11/2009 01:51:15 AM 459 Views
Oh, I agree, but fiction, deus ex machina, etc Isaac - 04/11/2009 09:58:42 PM 889 Views
Graendal is dead. the evidence is pretty hard NaClH2O - 03/11/2009 08:00:27 PM 3222 Views
Well, unlike everyone else, Fred Gaidin - 04/11/2009 01:34:57 AM 881 Views
Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was more cunning RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 05:03:38 PM 1081 Views
Re: Balefire. Kaldric - 04/11/2009 05:30:12 PM 908 Views
Not necessarily. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 06:08:34 PM 867 Views
The thing is... Etzel - 04/11/2009 06:25:43 PM 947 Views
Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 10:30:05 PM 1133 Views
Re: Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:48:30 AM 1082 Views
Hm. Possible. Kaldric - 04/11/2009 06:42:12 PM 1177 Views
I think it's the most simple possibility. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 10:39:02 PM 895 Views
Re: I think it's the most simple possibility. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:51:52 AM 846 Views
That's just absurd Marshall - 04/11/2009 10:48:30 PM 975 Views
No, I'm making it more simple. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 11:11:36 PM 919 Views
That thoery doesn't account for the undoing of the Compulsion Marshall - 04/11/2009 11:50:06 PM 928 Views
Yes, it does. Distance causes maintained weaves and Links to attenuate. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/11/2009 04:22:37 PM 985 Views
Yes, but Compulsion is almost never a maintained weave *NM* Marshall - 06/11/2009 07:19:24 PM 480 Views
But the real question in my mind... darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 08:28:31 PM 893 Views
Well Marshall - 06/12/2009 08:45:12 PM 1334 Views
Odds are she's dead darius_sedai - 06/12/2009 08:48:19 PM 784 Views
Re: No, I'm making it more simple. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:53:49 AM 889 Views
Amen! Praise the Great Lord of the Dark! **I agree with all points** Bookwyrm - 05/11/2009 07:21:52 AM 918 Views
Re: Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:52:36 PM 890 Views
This sounds familiar. Fanatic-Templar - 09/11/2009 06:54:17 AM 847 Views
Yes... Etzel - 17/11/2009 12:12:04 PM 873 Views
Yeah, I was shocked initially. BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:58:15 PM 917 Views
Proof for reincarnation exists Lord Haart - 26/11/2009 06:38:17 PM 861 Views
RJ said... Etzel - 26/11/2009 06:51:26 PM 1030 Views
But Rand's was spread over a LARGE area *NM* Lord Haart - 27/11/2009 12:17:47 AM 392 Views
He was drawing through the Choedan Kal... *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/11/2009 01:09:23 AM 383 Views
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