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That's just absurd Marshall Send a noteboard - 04/11/2009 10:48:30 PM
Think of all of the different ways Rand could have gone about killing Graendal. In order for her to trick Rand in this situation, she would have to know exactly which of the thousands of options Rand would have chosen. In other words, she'd have to be Omniscient, in which case she is not a Forsaken.

By what you're claiming, Graendal would have to know "Rand will send an envoy to me, whom I will then compel. After that, he will channel balefire at me and see whether or not the Compulsion disappears."
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Graendal's fate? Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:18:11 AM 2018 Views
Dead. Great Lord of Chaos - 02/11/2009 04:22:48 AM 970 Views
Maybe... Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:28:16 AM 947 Views
I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. LlordNakcor - 02/11/2009 04:36:37 AM 983 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:40:30 AM 970 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. Grimbear - 02/11/2009 05:08:09 AM 879 Views
Why has she been removed from the list of suspects? beetnemesis - 02/11/2009 02:29:41 PM 869 Views
She is dead dacole - 09/11/2009 01:37:03 AM 826 Views
That's pretty terrible logic beetnemesis - 19/11/2009 05:58:57 AM 998 Views
I disagree. Rand al'Thor - 02/11/2009 10:29:21 PM 834 Views
Agreed. *NM* Lord Haart - 19/11/2009 11:43:45 AM 403 Views
Could it have been Verin who killed Asmodean? Bookwyrm - 02/11/2009 05:20:37 AM 1396 Views
She is dead *spoilers* brett014 - 02/11/2009 05:44:21 AM 979 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* Gaidal Craig - 03/11/2009 09:01:07 AM 847 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* dacole - 09/11/2009 01:38:56 AM 952 Views
I thought so too, but KCF set me straight.. his response in a thread further down the board kavorka - 02/11/2009 05:56:40 PM 923 Views
I say dead. *NM* Gher - 02/11/2009 06:07:15 AM 443 Views
Dead. Seriana Sedai - 02/11/2009 06:46:10 AM 831 Views
Dead as Dumbledore. But why does it preclude her from being Asmo's killer? Master Radishes - 02/11/2009 07:04:08 AM 916 Views
Right. That info could easily be revealed through the POV of another. *NM* RandAllThor - 02/11/2009 02:15:31 PM 401 Views
It could but... Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 03:14:23 PM 918 Views
Moridin would most likely know. RandAllThor - 02/11/2009 04:06:04 PM 834 Views
Well.... Etzel - 02/11/2009 08:52:52 AM 871 Views
*NM* BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:45:52 PM 384 Views
Alive until proven otherwise IMO *spoilers* Dragonsworn - 02/11/2009 03:47:51 PM 897 Views
That weave was very complex. Kronin al'Sulc - 02/11/2009 10:34:36 PM 817 Views
Actually, the one that Rand had Nynaeve study earlier was more complex. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 05:11:07 PM 891 Views
But you can't reverse Compulsion by unraveling it, right? BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:48:08 PM 842 Views
Almost certainly dead Isaac - 02/11/2009 04:48:18 PM 997 Views
Yeah. Compared to, say, Sammael's "death" beetnemesis - 02/11/2009 10:40:01 PM 893 Views
Not even almost. Graendal and Sammael now both go well with eggs. *NM* Marshall - 03/11/2009 01:51:15 AM 430 Views
Oh, I agree, but fiction, deus ex machina, etc Isaac - 04/11/2009 09:58:42 PM 823 Views
Graendal is dead. the evidence is pretty hard NaClH2O - 03/11/2009 08:00:27 PM 3161 Views
Well, unlike everyone else, Fred Gaidin - 04/11/2009 01:34:57 AM 823 Views
Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was more cunning RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 05:03:38 PM 1015 Views
Re: Balefire. Kaldric - 04/11/2009 05:30:12 PM 849 Views
Not necessarily. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 06:08:34 PM 803 Views
The thing is... Etzel - 04/11/2009 06:25:43 PM 877 Views
Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 10:30:05 PM 1070 Views
Re: Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:48:30 AM 1010 Views
Hm. Possible. Kaldric - 04/11/2009 06:42:12 PM 1111 Views
I think it's the most simple possibility. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 10:39:02 PM 835 Views
Re: I think it's the most simple possibility. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:51:52 AM 774 Views
That's just absurd Marshall - 04/11/2009 10:48:30 PM 920 Views
No, I'm making it more simple. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 11:11:36 PM 861 Views
That thoery doesn't account for the undoing of the Compulsion Marshall - 04/11/2009 11:50:06 PM 865 Views
Yes, it does. Distance causes maintained weaves and Links to attenuate. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/11/2009 04:22:37 PM 921 Views
Yes, but Compulsion is almost never a maintained weave *NM* Marshall - 06/11/2009 07:19:24 PM 450 Views
But the real question in my mind... darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 08:28:31 PM 827 Views
Well Marshall - 06/12/2009 08:45:12 PM 1272 Views
Odds are she's dead darius_sedai - 06/12/2009 08:48:19 PM 717 Views
Re: No, I'm making it more simple. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:53:49 AM 833 Views
Amen! Praise the Great Lord of the Dark! **I agree with all points** Bookwyrm - 05/11/2009 07:21:52 AM 860 Views
Re: Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:52:36 PM 826 Views
This sounds familiar. Fanatic-Templar - 09/11/2009 06:54:17 AM 772 Views
Yes... Etzel - 17/11/2009 12:12:04 PM 777 Views
Yeah, I was shocked initially. BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:58:15 PM 856 Views
Proof for reincarnation exists Lord Haart - 26/11/2009 06:38:17 PM 794 Views
RJ said... Etzel - 26/11/2009 06:51:26 PM 953 Views
But Rand's was spread over a LARGE area *NM* Lord Haart - 27/11/2009 12:17:47 AM 362 Views
He was drawing through the Choedan Kal... *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/11/2009 01:09:23 AM 351 Views
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