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Re: No, I'm making it more simple. dacole Send a noteboard - 09/11/2009 01:53:49 AM
You are assuming that the messanger would tip her off that he knows she is there. I don't think it would.

Earlier in the series: Graendal says If Rand came against me, I would either throw myself on his mercy or run away.

Later in the series: Rand channels enough of the Power to crack the earth in half.

TGS (my proposal): Rand sends messenger to Graendal. Graendal knows he has the Access Key. Graendal doesn't care what method he chooses to use to attack her - she's going to get out of Dodge.

She doesn't strike me as similar to Rahvin in that she'll remain on her throne taunting and trying to defeat the Dragon on her terms; I really think she'd be surprised he figured out where she was, hurriedly Compel Ramshala to cover her tracks, and Travel out of there. I'm saying that it severely starts to stretch the boundaries of belief that after Semi's capture, numerous deaths among the Chosen and then the Choedan Kal being successfully used that any of the Forsaken would go against Rand directly. I'm just going off of her personality characteristics here and for me, it strains credibility that she would wait around with that sort of threat on her doorstep - her M.O. has always been a lack of fear to flee if necessary; Rand wasn't supposed to find her at her headquarters. That's a big red flag tomorrow.
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Graendal's fate? - 02/11/2009 04:18:11 AM 2082 Views
Dead. - 02/11/2009 04:22:48 AM 1033 Views
Maybe... - 02/11/2009 04:28:16 AM 1021 Views
I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. - 02/11/2009 04:36:37 AM 1052 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. - 02/11/2009 04:40:30 AM 1045 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. - 02/11/2009 05:08:09 AM 950 Views
Why has she been removed from the list of suspects? - 02/11/2009 02:29:41 PM 942 Views
She is dead - 09/11/2009 01:37:03 AM 888 Views
That's pretty terrible logic - 19/11/2009 05:58:57 AM 1064 Views
I disagree. - 02/11/2009 10:29:21 PM 899 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 19/11/2009 11:43:45 AM 451 Views
Could it have been Verin who killed Asmodean? - 02/11/2009 05:20:37 AM 1453 Views
She is dead *spoilers* - 02/11/2009 05:44:21 AM 1042 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* - 03/11/2009 09:01:07 AM 916 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* - 09/11/2009 01:38:56 AM 1034 Views
I say dead. *NM* - 02/11/2009 06:07:15 AM 473 Views
Dead. - 02/11/2009 06:46:10 AM 915 Views
Dead as Dumbledore. But why does it preclude her from being Asmo's killer? - 02/11/2009 07:04:08 AM 977 Views
Right. That info could easily be revealed through the POV of another. *NM* - 02/11/2009 02:15:31 PM 440 Views
It could but... - 02/11/2009 03:14:23 PM 981 Views
Moridin would most likely know. - 02/11/2009 04:06:04 PM 894 Views
Well.... - 02/11/2009 08:52:52 AM 953 Views
*NM* - 18/11/2009 10:45:52 PM 412 Views
Alive until proven otherwise IMO *spoilers* - 02/11/2009 03:47:51 PM 950 Views
That weave was very complex. - 02/11/2009 10:34:36 PM 876 Views
Actually, the one that Rand had Nynaeve study earlier was more complex. - 04/11/2009 05:11:07 PM 946 Views
But you can't reverse Compulsion by unraveling it, right? - 18/11/2009 10:48:08 PM 905 Views
Almost certainly dead - 02/11/2009 04:48:18 PM 1061 Views
Yeah. Compared to, say, Sammael's "death" - 02/11/2009 10:40:01 PM 962 Views
Not even almost. Graendal and Sammael now both go well with eggs. *NM* - 03/11/2009 01:51:15 AM 459 Views
Oh, I agree, but fiction, deus ex machina, etc - 04/11/2009 09:58:42 PM 888 Views
Graendal is dead. the evidence is pretty hard - 03/11/2009 08:00:27 PM 3222 Views
Well, unlike everyone else, - 04/11/2009 01:34:57 AM 879 Views
Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was more cunning - 04/11/2009 05:03:38 PM 1081 Views
Re: Balefire. - 04/11/2009 05:30:12 PM 907 Views
Not necessarily. - 04/11/2009 06:08:34 PM 866 Views
The thing is... - 04/11/2009 06:25:43 PM 947 Views
Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand. - 04/11/2009 10:30:05 PM 1133 Views
Hm. Possible. - 04/11/2009 06:42:12 PM 1177 Views
I think it's the most simple possibility. - 04/11/2009 10:39:02 PM 895 Views
Re: I think it's the most simple possibility. - 09/11/2009 01:51:52 AM 845 Views
That's just absurd - 04/11/2009 10:48:30 PM 974 Views
No, I'm making it more simple. - 04/11/2009 11:11:36 PM 919 Views
That thoery doesn't account for the undoing of the Compulsion - 04/11/2009 11:50:06 PM 928 Views
Yes, it does. Distance causes maintained weaves and Links to attenuate. - 05/11/2009 04:22:37 PM 984 Views
Yes, but Compulsion is almost never a maintained weave *NM* - 06/11/2009 07:19:24 PM 480 Views
But the real question in my mind... - 02/12/2009 08:28:31 PM 892 Views
Well - 06/12/2009 08:45:12 PM 1332 Views
Odds are she's dead - 06/12/2009 08:48:19 PM 784 Views
Re: No, I'm making it more simple. - 09/11/2009 01:53:49 AM 889 Views
Amen! Praise the Great Lord of the Dark! **I agree with all points** - 05/11/2009 07:21:52 AM 918 Views
This sounds familiar. - 09/11/2009 06:54:17 AM 846 Views
Yes... - 17/11/2009 12:12:04 PM 873 Views
Yeah, I was shocked initially. - 18/11/2009 10:58:15 PM 916 Views
Proof for reincarnation exists - 26/11/2009 06:38:17 PM 859 Views
RJ said... - 26/11/2009 06:51:26 PM 1029 Views
But Rand's was spread over a LARGE area *NM* - 27/11/2009 12:17:47 AM 392 Views
He was drawing through the Choedan Kal... *NM* - 27/11/2009 01:09:23 AM 383 Views

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