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THANK you. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 05/02/2010 11:41:43 PM
Gawyn just isn't good enough. I even think Bryne would handle Gawyn easily.

Even if one stipulates Gawyn's superior sword skill (and there is no reason to do so), Lan showed in New Spring what superior swordsmanship is worth against him.

I imagine even if Gawyn got the upper hand, Lan could just say something like "Well, I'll be seeing your mom in heaven. Got any message you want me to pass on IN BED?" And Gawyn would freak out and cry.
Cannoli
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Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) Yondaime - 04/02/2010 10:38:01 PM 2851 Views
Gawyn. *chokes back the vomit that rushes up his throat* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/02/2010 10:53:37 PM 1605 Views
There there Yondaime - 04/02/2010 11:15:00 PM 1532 Views
Huh? He was even WORSE in TGS. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 05:14:16 AM 1382 Views
I dunno. He actaully DID stuff this time Yondaime - 05/02/2010 05:24:48 AM 1486 Views
I agree he was much better than before darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 04:39:33 PM 1334 Views
It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. Jeordam - 04/02/2010 11:15:19 PM 1559 Views
Re: It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. Gerbeaud - 05/02/2010 01:13:52 AM 1461 Views
Gawyn is incredibly irritating Yondaime - 05/02/2010 01:55:40 AM 1460 Views
No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 10:21:45 PM 1400 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. Datakim - 05/02/2010 10:44:47 PM 1386 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 11:53:18 PM 1468 Views
Perhaps the key is that Gawyn is an even more simplistic thinker than Galad. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 06:20:06 AM 1357 Views
Again, what? When? Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 08:08:47 AM 1363 Views
Well, the fact that he's had access to one of the best educations in Randland Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 09:22:28 AM 1332 Views
Completely different subjects, and pretty insignificant, really. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 06:44:35 PM 941 Views
the person to beat Gawyn is Mat imlad - 06/02/2010 06:36:03 AM 1605 Views
Perrin would beat Lan?! *NM* BlackAdder - 06/02/2010 05:52:47 PM 1278 Views
Sure, Gawyn is better BlackAdder - 05/02/2010 02:26:45 AM 1388 Views
Re: Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) MissKoalaVB - 05/02/2010 04:27:16 AM 1518 Views
Yondaime - 05/02/2010 04:47:17 AM 1243 Views
Add Nynaeve and Egwene to the fight, that's something worth seeing then. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 05:20:53 AM 1517 Views
Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 04:55:51 PM 1458 Views
I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/02/2010 05:10:34 PM 1404 Views
Re: I agree. darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 05:25:52 PM 1640 Views
You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 07:41:28 PM 1516 Views
Re: You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 09:42:32 PM 1474 Views
I just mentioned it since you said Egwene had more combat experience. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 06:21:38 AM 1398 Views
I think you are missunderstanding me darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 02:04:13 AM 1437 Views
Re: Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass Datakim - 05/02/2010 07:49:27 PM 1994 Views
Totally agree. *NM* Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 07:52:48 PM 1402 Views
yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 09:41:09 PM 1417 Views
Re: yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test Datakim - 05/02/2010 10:00:11 PM 1320 Views
Nynaeve might have trouble... Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 10:24:56 PM 1420 Views
That's not what RJ said. He said Nynaeve would be a little hard pressed Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 10:18:42 PM 1218 Views
she might be a little hard pressed to pass a test she should pass without thought! darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:56:38 PM 1117 Views
Moiraine was hard pressed to pass, and she practiced for ages and is the #1 Battle AS. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:27:26 PM 1335 Views
she passed pretty easily IMO darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:12:13 PM 1434 Views
Just like Be'lal did? And Lanfear's already learned that lesson the hard way. Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 01:40:45 AM 1284 Views
Re: Just like Be'lal did? And Lanfear's already learned that lesson the hard way. darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:52:40 AM 1395 Views
Yes, but choosing the time to attack is part of how good a fighter someone is. Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:30:55 PM 1276 Views
The test for the Shawl has little to nothing to do with channeling, you know this right? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 10:23:16 PM 837 Views
Are you being serious? *NM* Sidious - 06/02/2010 08:57:33 AM 887 Views
of course it does darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:48:41 PM 1411 Views
That's not how it happens in New Spring. Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 07:00:52 PM 1283 Views
that's because Moiraine trained and is relatively skilled (for AS) darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 07:34:05 PM 1411 Views
That's nonsensical. Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 09:02:13 PM 1411 Views
It's what RJ said ... "too much specialization" darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:14:38 PM 1299 Views
Well, if RJ said it, I guess it must be true. Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 11:17:19 PM 1332 Views
*shrugs* darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 12:59:00 AM 1300 Views
Towers of Midnight spoilers: Fanatic-Templar - 09/11/2010 05:29:05 AM 1324 Views
Re: That's not how it happens in New Spring. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:28:52 PM 1287 Views
Right... Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 08:58:04 PM 1223 Views
About splitting weaves 14 ways Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 10:55:28 PM 1393 Views
Re: About splitting weaves 14 ways Datakim - 05/02/2010 11:08:50 PM 1252 Views
Can you provide that quote? darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 07:34:49 PM 1360 Views
Re: Can you provide that quote? Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 08:19:08 PM 1384 Views
Yup, plus those were complex weaves that may have required multiple flows. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:30:52 PM 1358 Views
there is nothing to say that multiple weaves are involved. darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:16:29 PM 1290 Views
That's the nature on the weaving. Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 09:24:39 PM 1348 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 10:46:52 PM 1378 Views
Yes, really Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 10:55:22 PM 1383 Views
Re: Yes, really Datakim - 06/02/2010 11:29:17 PM 1316 Views
Re: Yes, really Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 11:48:14 PM 1269 Views
Re: Yes, really Datakim - 07/02/2010 12:18:12 AM 1333 Views
Oh! Forgot another analogy Datakim - 07/02/2010 01:13:27 AM 1286 Views
Re: Yes, really Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 01:46:14 AM 1319 Views
Re: Yes, really Datakim - 07/02/2010 01:59:44 AM 1249 Views
Re: Yes, really Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:36:48 PM 1297 Views
Re: Can you provide that quote? Datakim - 06/02/2010 10:14:24 PM 1270 Views
1 Blossom = 1 Weave ... there is nothing to say that each thread requires splitting flows darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 10:48:11 PM 1350 Views
Fine, I used the word weave when I should have used flow. 36 flows to create 12 weaves. *NM* Datakim - 06/02/2010 10:57:09 PM 806 Views
IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill Sidious - 06/02/2010 09:01:23 AM 1335 Views
Re: IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 09:29:06 AM 1441 Views
I agree ... it's much like Rand's approach to Graendal darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:51:17 PM 1329 Views
so you've learned nothing from Cyndane v. Alivia. darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:45:19 PM 1280 Views
Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:33:08 PM 1396 Views
Re: Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:17:40 PM 1380 Views
It's a lone example contested by many other examples Sidious - 07/02/2010 09:53:51 AM 1317 Views
the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:57:43 PM 1386 Views
Re: the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien Sidious - 07/02/2010 04:25:57 PM 1291 Views
from RJs lips to your ears ... darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 06:55:27 PM 1381 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 08:04:57 PM 1228 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 08:20:31 PM 1212 Views
... but I can't let this one go... Sidious - 07/02/2010 11:09:04 PM 1471 Views
Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 11:16:30 PM 1483 Views
Re: Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan Sidious - 08/02/2010 09:43:15 AM 1286 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 07/02/2010 11:05:00 PM 1285 Views
if you had points worth responding too I would ... as always you fall back on pretending you are RJ darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 11:07:37 PM 1390 Views
i.e. I back up my points by using RJ's written words and their validity irritates you *NM* Sidious - 07/02/2010 11:11:55 PM 1296 Views
Re: i.e. I back up my points by using RJ's written words and their validity irritates you darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 11:18:49 PM 1339 Views
Yeah, what's a couple of fights with a Forsaken? How's Egwene without her sa'angreal crutch? Cannoli - 05/02/2010 11:40:13 PM 1251 Views
I disagree Kieran - 06/02/2010 05:30:40 AM 1266 Views
Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:46:27 PM 1324 Views
Re: Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear Kieran - 06/02/2010 08:23:20 PM 1325 Views
she got hit with a pain weave before she did a damn thing darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:21:11 PM 1313 Views
lol Kieran - 07/02/2010 01:55:18 AM 1314 Views
Go look below at some of the quotes I've provided darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:59:51 AM 1387 Views
If the Power was used, I would agree BlackAdder - 06/02/2010 05:59:14 PM 1314 Views
On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 - 06/02/2010 10:43:43 PM 1241 Views
Exactly my point darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 10:49:49 PM 1282 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 11:12:27 PM 2642 Views
plenty of evidence that Nynaeve is unskilled outside of Healing darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:21:20 AM 1402 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 - 07/02/2010 08:02:40 AM 1353 Views
There was one other very skilled Healer in the series... Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:44:41 PM 1284 Views
I'm sure she could if she bothered to train darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 06:57:17 PM 1162 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... Datakim - 06/02/2010 11:15:59 PM 1313 Views
Nope darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:26:19 AM 1378 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 - 07/02/2010 08:21:19 AM 1516 Views
Egwene and Nynaeve had already confront each other Elvira_Sedai - 07/02/2010 08:45:23 AM 1437 Views
but whoever wins fistofpainx - 05/02/2010 04:54:52 AM 1380 Views
*nods* That's cuz ... Yondaime - 05/02/2010 05:26:57 AM 1431 Views
I actually think Lan would win darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 04:57:24 PM 1351 Views
Agreed Myrdhyn - 05/02/2010 08:22:26 PM 1330 Views
If it was for "real" Lan wins, in practice ... Gawyn could be the superior *NM* darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 09:43:20 PM 718 Views
I think Lan, hands down. Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 03:30:20 PM 1209 Views
THANK you. Cannoli - 05/02/2010 11:41:43 PM 9865 Views
Re: THANK you. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 06:26:04 AM 1312 Views
Gawyn and Galad have become tough Sidious - 06/02/2010 09:04:25 AM 1490 Views
Re: Gawyn and Galad have become tough Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 09:31:51 AM 1188 Views
Gawyn is destined to protect the Great Mother ( Egwene ) Elvira_Sedai - 05/02/2010 04:11:51 PM 1390 Views
You forgot that the Warder Matched Lan A LONG time ago. Lan stopped sparring. amirebram - 05/02/2010 08:42:49 PM 1200 Views
Hopper!!!!! *NM* NaClH2O - 06/02/2010 12:21:25 AM 843 Views
Hasn't Hopper already lost in a fight? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 01:48:19 AM 796 Views
According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... Etzel - 06/02/2010 08:55:50 AM 1383 Views
That can't be right, can it? BlackAdder - 06/02/2010 05:51:04 PM 1361 Views
Even in NS only Ryne is known to be better than Lan darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:57:29 AM 1420 Views
Huh .... Yondaime - 06/02/2010 06:23:10 PM 1355 Views
I don't recall Rand loosing to Riatin. Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 06:39:31 PM 1352 Views
Well, to be fair, the text doesn't mention much Yondaime - 07/02/2010 12:48:59 AM 1318 Views
Re: According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... Gerbeaud - 06/02/2010 06:28:15 PM 1337 Views
"Gawhine"... I like it. *NM* Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:40:32 PM 831 Views
If Gawyn is the best because he defeated two Warders, what about Rand? Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 09:15:34 PM 1341 Views
These are pointless. Heiko - 09/02/2010 12:52:21 AM 1379 Views
These are scalar comparatives JasonD - 24/02/2010 09:45:11 PM 1342 Views
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