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On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 06/02/2010 10:43:43 PM
First off, we need to realize that there is no contest at all if Nynaeve has her angreal and ter'angreal. She isn't as unskilled as Alivia, and I doubt if anyone would stand a chance against Nynaeve at that point.

But, assuming Nynaeve and Egwene are going to fight without any additions, the situation isn't simple.

Without any doubt, Nynaeve is a clumsy weaver. Not because she's inherently unskilled but because she never practices and has shown no dedication to improve her skill.

Egwene, on the other hand, is shown to be a master at anything the Aes Sedai can weave, and there are no indications that the secret weaves she got from Moggy give her any trouble at all.

As RJ's statement showed, Egwene would breeze through the Aes Sedai test while Nynaeve, despite greater strength, would not. The test checks for one thing... weaving under pressure, and also using channeling to tackle other obstacles and distractions.

It is clear that Nynaeve will have to rely entirely on her strength for this, and that is going to be tiring. Someone like Egwene or Elayne, with their greater practice and broader knowledge, will not have this problem.

Over and above that, Egwene remains the only person who could make 14 weaves at once. Sure, Rand or someone might match that, but we haven't seen it. Rand says he can make up to 12 weaves at one go, and that is all we have evidence for.

Egwene can make fourteen when under the influence of Forkroot. That says a lot, because the ability to multitask is probably going to be crucial in any battle.

While not the strongest, Egwene has certainly shown to be the most dexterous channeler we've seen.

Therefore, I think she can take Nynaeve on, an in Nynaeve's current unpracticed state, Egwene may have the edge.
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Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) - 04/02/2010 10:38:01 PM 2779 Views
Gawyn. *chokes back the vomit that rushes up his throat* - 04/02/2010 10:53:37 PM 1542 Views
There there - 04/02/2010 11:15:00 PM 1462 Views
Huh? He was even WORSE in TGS. - 05/02/2010 05:14:16 AM 1320 Views
I dunno. He actaully DID stuff this time - 05/02/2010 05:24:48 AM 1389 Views
I agree he was much better than before - 05/02/2010 04:39:33 PM 1270 Views
It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. - 04/02/2010 11:15:19 PM 1487 Views
Re: It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. - 05/02/2010 01:13:52 AM 1399 Views
Gawyn is incredibly irritating - 05/02/2010 01:55:40 AM 1401 Views
No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. - 05/02/2010 10:21:45 PM 1318 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. - 05/02/2010 10:44:47 PM 1327 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. - 05/02/2010 11:53:18 PM 1406 Views
Perhaps the key is that Gawyn is an even more simplistic thinker than Galad. - 06/02/2010 06:20:06 AM 1295 Views
Again, what? When? - 06/02/2010 08:08:47 AM 1281 Views
Well, the fact that he's had access to one of the best educations in Randland - 06/02/2010 09:22:28 AM 1262 Views
Completely different subjects, and pretty insignificant, really. *NM* - 06/02/2010 06:44:35 PM 903 Views
the person to beat Gawyn is Mat - 06/02/2010 06:36:03 AM 1539 Views
Perrin would beat Lan?! *NM* - 06/02/2010 05:52:47 PM 1230 Views
Sure, Gawyn is better - 05/02/2010 02:26:45 AM 1317 Views
Re: Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) - 05/02/2010 04:27:16 AM 1453 Views
- 05/02/2010 04:47:17 AM 1183 Views
Add Nynaeve and Egwene to the fight, that's something worth seeing then. - 05/02/2010 05:20:53 AM 1445 Views
Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass - 05/02/2010 04:55:51 PM 1395 Views
I agree. - 05/02/2010 05:10:34 PM 1335 Views
Re: I agree. - 05/02/2010 05:25:52 PM 1575 Views
You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. - 05/02/2010 07:41:28 PM 1438 Views
Re: You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. - 05/02/2010 09:42:32 PM 1380 Views
I just mentioned it since you said Egwene had more combat experience. - 06/02/2010 06:21:38 AM 1308 Views
I think you are missunderstanding me - 07/02/2010 02:04:13 AM 1367 Views
Re: Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass - 05/02/2010 07:49:27 PM 1921 Views
Totally agree. *NM* - 05/02/2010 07:52:48 PM 1338 Views
yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test - 05/02/2010 09:41:09 PM 1342 Views
Re: yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test - 05/02/2010 10:00:11 PM 1251 Views
Nynaeve might have trouble... - 05/02/2010 10:24:56 PM 1349 Views
That's not what RJ said. He said Nynaeve would be a little hard pressed - 05/02/2010 10:18:42 PM 1154 Views
she might be a little hard pressed to pass a test she should pass without thought! - 06/02/2010 05:56:38 PM 1051 Views
Moiraine was hard pressed to pass, and she practiced for ages and is the #1 Battle AS. - 06/02/2010 08:27:26 PM 1270 Views
she passed pretty easily IMO - 06/02/2010 09:12:13 PM 1366 Views
The test for the Shawl has little to nothing to do with channeling, you know this right? *NM* - 05/02/2010 10:23:16 PM 800 Views
Are you being serious? *NM* - 06/02/2010 08:57:33 AM 853 Views
of course it does - 06/02/2010 05:48:41 PM 1346 Views
That's not how it happens in New Spring. - 06/02/2010 07:00:52 PM 1215 Views
that's because Moiraine trained and is relatively skilled (for AS) - 06/02/2010 07:34:05 PM 1339 Views
That's nonsensical. - 06/02/2010 09:02:13 PM 1340 Views
It's what RJ said ... "too much specialization" - 06/02/2010 09:14:38 PM 1247 Views
Well, if RJ said it, I guess it must be true. - 06/02/2010 11:17:19 PM 1242 Views
*shrugs* - 07/02/2010 12:59:00 AM 1242 Views
Towers of Midnight spoilers: - 09/11/2010 05:29:05 AM 1244 Views
Re: That's not how it happens in New Spring. - 06/02/2010 08:28:52 PM 1216 Views
Right... - 06/02/2010 08:58:04 PM 1161 Views
About splitting weaves 14 ways - 05/02/2010 10:55:28 PM 1330 Views
Re: About splitting weaves 14 ways - 05/02/2010 11:08:50 PM 1161 Views
Can you provide that quote? - 06/02/2010 07:34:49 PM 1301 Views
Re: Can you provide that quote? - 06/02/2010 08:19:08 PM 1300 Views
there is nothing to say that multiple weaves are involved. - 06/02/2010 09:16:29 PM 1229 Views
That's the nature on the weaving. - 06/02/2010 09:24:39 PM 1276 Views
Not really - 06/02/2010 10:46:52 PM 1311 Views
Yes, really - 06/02/2010 10:55:22 PM 1320 Views
Re: Yes, really - 06/02/2010 11:29:17 PM 1220 Views
Re: Yes, really - 06/02/2010 11:48:14 PM 1200 Views
Re: Yes, really - 07/02/2010 12:18:12 AM 1270 Views
Oh! Forgot another analogy - 07/02/2010 01:13:27 AM 1226 Views
Re: Yes, really - 07/02/2010 01:46:14 AM 1225 Views
Re: Yes, really - 07/02/2010 01:59:44 AM 1152 Views
Re: Yes, really - 07/02/2010 06:36:48 PM 1225 Views
IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill - 06/02/2010 09:01:23 AM 1254 Views
Re: IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill - 06/02/2010 09:29:06 AM 1382 Views
I agree ... it's much like Rand's approach to Graendal - 06/02/2010 05:51:17 PM 1279 Views
so you've learned nothing from Cyndane v. Alivia. - 06/02/2010 05:45:19 PM 1189 Views
Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. - 06/02/2010 08:33:08 PM 1335 Views
Re: Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. - 06/02/2010 09:17:40 PM 1315 Views
It's a lone example contested by many other examples - 07/02/2010 09:53:51 AM 1226 Views
the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien - 07/02/2010 01:57:43 PM 1315 Views
Re: the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien - 07/02/2010 04:25:57 PM 1219 Views
from RJs lips to your ears ... - 07/02/2010 06:55:27 PM 1323 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... - 07/02/2010 08:04:57 PM 1163 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... - 07/02/2010 08:20:31 PM 1152 Views
... but I can't let this one go... - 07/02/2010 11:09:04 PM 1401 Views
Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan - 07/02/2010 11:16:30 PM 1397 Views
Re: Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan - 08/02/2010 09:43:15 AM 1199 Views
Hmm... - 07/02/2010 11:05:00 PM 1221 Views
I disagree - 06/02/2010 05:30:40 AM 1201 Views
Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear - 06/02/2010 05:46:27 PM 1263 Views
Re: Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear - 06/02/2010 08:23:20 PM 1247 Views
she got hit with a pain weave before she did a damn thing - 06/02/2010 09:21:11 PM 1248 Views
lol - 07/02/2010 01:55:18 AM 1252 Views
Go look below at some of the quotes I've provided - 07/02/2010 01:59:51 AM 1303 Views
If the Power was used, I would agree - 06/02/2010 05:59:14 PM 1244 Views
On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 06/02/2010 10:43:43 PM 1183 Views
Exactly my point - 06/02/2010 10:49:49 PM 1207 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 06/02/2010 11:12:27 PM 2540 Views
plenty of evidence that Nynaeve is unskilled outside of Healing - 07/02/2010 01:21:20 AM 1315 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 07/02/2010 08:02:40 AM 1295 Views
There was one other very skilled Healer in the series... - 07/02/2010 06:44:41 PM 1216 Views
I'm sure she could if she bothered to train - 07/02/2010 06:57:17 PM 1075 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 06/02/2010 11:15:59 PM 1252 Views
Nope - 07/02/2010 01:26:19 AM 1303 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 07/02/2010 08:21:19 AM 1425 Views
Egwene and Nynaeve had already confront each other - 07/02/2010 08:45:23 AM 1372 Views
but whoever wins - 05/02/2010 04:54:52 AM 1314 Views
*nods* That's cuz ... - 05/02/2010 05:26:57 AM 1351 Views
I actually think Lan would win - 05/02/2010 04:57:24 PM 1287 Views
Agreed - 05/02/2010 08:22:26 PM 1268 Views
I think Lan, hands down. - 05/02/2010 03:30:20 PM 1148 Views
THANK you. - 05/02/2010 11:41:43 PM 9781 Views
Re: THANK you. - 06/02/2010 06:26:04 AM 1259 Views
Gawyn and Galad have become tough - 06/02/2010 09:04:25 AM 1439 Views
Re: Gawyn and Galad have become tough - 06/02/2010 09:31:51 AM 1130 Views
Gawyn is destined to protect the Great Mother ( Egwene ) - 05/02/2010 04:11:51 PM 1314 Views
Hopper!!!!! *NM* - 06/02/2010 12:21:25 AM 808 Views
Hasn't Hopper already lost in a fight? *NM* - 06/02/2010 01:48:19 AM 760 Views
According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... - 06/02/2010 08:55:50 AM 1313 Views
That can't be right, can it? - 06/02/2010 05:51:04 PM 1295 Views
Even in NS only Ryne is known to be better than Lan - 07/02/2010 01:57:29 AM 1358 Views
Huh .... - 06/02/2010 06:23:10 PM 1299 Views
I don't recall Rand loosing to Riatin. - 06/02/2010 06:39:31 PM 1289 Views
Well, to be fair, the text doesn't mention much - 07/02/2010 12:48:59 AM 1261 Views
Re: According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... - 06/02/2010 06:28:15 PM 1273 Views
"Gawhine"... I like it. *NM* - 06/02/2010 08:40:32 PM 794 Views
If Gawyn is the best because he defeated two Warders, what about Rand? - 06/02/2010 09:15:34 PM 1271 Views
These are pointless. - 09/02/2010 12:52:21 AM 1316 Views
These are scalar comparatives - 24/02/2010 09:45:11 PM 1285 Views

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