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Additional clues that something doesn't quite add up in Graendal's death darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 13/02/2010 03:34:43 PM
Sammael is at Graendal's hideout in this chapter and makes some interesting observations...

LoC
Threads Woven of Shadow

It never ceased to amaze him that she chose to remain here in a palace well known across Arad Doman, with civil war and anarchy all around her.

So according to him her palace is well known across AD... compare that to Rand's comments.

TGS
A Force of Light

Among the general Domani populace, Natrin's Barrow has been largely forgotten.

Something of a disconnect. Then there is this other interesting observation Sammael makes about Graendal

LoC
Threads Woven of Shadow

She liked her comforts, and never wanted to expend much effort to keep them, yet this palace was in sight of the Mountains of Mist, and considerable work was necessary to keep the turmoil away from her, to keep anyone from asking where the former owner had gone, along with his family and servants. Sammael would not be surprised if every Domani who visited here left believing that this land had been handed down in her family since the Breaking.

Funny that it took Rand no time at all to discover something odd about Natrin's Barrow...

TGS
A Force of Light

The King fell, but his successors also used the fortress, and it became a popular retreat for the Crown when the King needed relaxation. The practice dwindled during the last hundred years or so, until it was granted to a distant cousin of the King about fifty years back. Their family has used it ever since.

And then there is this final tidbit about Graendal that Sammael gives us...

LoC
Threads Woven of Shadow

She used Compulsion so often like a hammer that one might forget that she could wield the weaker forms of it with great delicacy, twisting a mind’s path so subtly that even the closest examination might miss every trace of her.

Yet her Compulsion of Ramshalan (and Kerb's earlier for that matter) stood out quite obviously...

TGS
A Force of Light

Nynaeve walked over to Ramshalan and looked at him for a moment. She hissed and said, "Yes. Rand, he's under a heavy Compulsion. There are a lot of weaves here. Not as bad as the chandler's apprentice, or maybe just more subtle."

Big discrepancies IMO between information we had been given earlier and what now seems to have taken place in TGS. I'm beginning to wonder if Rand even BF'd the right place!
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Additional clues that something doesn't quite add up in Graendal's death - 13/02/2010 03:34:43 PM 2060 Views
I brought all this up before.. - 13/02/2010 04:52:39 PM 946 Views
Glad it's been brought up before - 13/02/2010 04:57:11 PM 888 Views
Assuming it's not her hideout . . . - 13/02/2010 05:47:22 PM 925 Views
I don't see problems - 13/02/2010 06:03:41 PM 955 Views
Also, Rand had to do some heavy research with the head librarian - 13/02/2010 07:15:27 PM 923 Views
no, Rand just sent a few scouts - 13/02/2010 11:56:33 PM 804 Views
"Well known" and "largely forgotten" are about as opposite as you can get! - 13/02/2010 11:44:39 PM 923 Views
I don't think so. - 14/02/2010 04:28:04 PM 875 Views
so now she's been there for the last 50 years? - 14/02/2010 05:41:43 PM 783 Views
Re: so now she's been there for the last 50 years? - 14/02/2010 06:29:32 PM 818 Views
you mean the scouts he sent? - 14/02/2010 06:52:59 PM 842 Views
He used scouts to find the place? - 14/02/2010 07:07:16 PM 783 Views
probably, but that doesn't make a difference. - 14/02/2010 08:33:35 PM 824 Views
Re: probably, but that doesn't make a difference. - 15/02/2010 08:10:47 AM 848 Views
I agree - those are basically antonyms - 16/02/2010 06:35:31 PM 827 Views
Like rotary phones, Milli Vanilli and the Macarena? - 23/02/2010 12:22:47 AM 752 Views
More... - 13/02/2010 07:37:45 PM 864 Views
Or it could be due to two different authors writing the story and nothing else. *NM* - 14/02/2010 12:22:27 AM 376 Views
seems like pretty big differences - 14/02/2010 12:26:42 AM 791 Views
Not really. - 15/02/2010 03:29:39 AM 786 Views
it's Maria's job to find these things - 15/02/2010 04:43:33 AM 802 Views
Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. - 14/02/2010 03:45:23 AM 963 Views
Re: Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. - 14/02/2010 01:08:38 PM 895 Views
Fine, then what if she changed location after Sammael was compromised? - 14/02/2010 04:46:52 PM 854 Views
Any number of things are possible - 14/02/2010 05:45:35 PM 807 Views
You don't get it. - 14/02/2010 06:10:33 PM 806 Views
Go re-read it... I said there are discrepancies between what Sammael said and what Rand said - 14/02/2010 06:54:43 PM 917 Views
There aren't, really. - 14/02/2010 09:56:53 PM 759 Views
so you think a kid who has likely never even seen a map knows the name of a castle - 14/02/2010 10:09:55 PM 876 Views
Two possibilities how Kerb knew the name - 15/02/2010 09:04:14 AM 874 Views
There are infinite possibilities - 15/02/2010 12:48:23 PM 873 Views
Re: There are infinite possibilities - 15/02/2010 05:51:24 PM 850 Views
*sigh back* - 15/02/2010 06:08:28 PM 905 Views
Kerb wasn't planted by anyone. - 15/02/2010 06:41:18 PM 841 Views
She's dead, people need to move on. *NM* - 14/02/2010 07:34:31 AM 423 Views
I acknowledge that it's possible (even likely) that she is dead - 14/02/2010 01:09:53 PM 828 Views
Graendal is Toast with a capital T. Not possibly dead, not likely dead, 100% gone. - 14/02/2010 04:48:09 PM 816 Views
This from you? HA! - 14/02/2010 05:44:16 PM 830 Views
Look, - 14/02/2010 06:02:32 PM 916 Views
seriously I think you are mistaking me for another poster - 14/02/2010 06:58:47 PM 799 Views
I'm glad... - 15/02/2010 10:07:06 PM 850 Views
Why was Kerb highly likely to be delved? - 16/02/2010 06:42:37 AM 902 Views
I think that I have my names mixed up.... - 16/02/2010 04:17:46 PM 777 Views
Re: I think that I have my names mixed up.... - 16/02/2010 05:43:51 PM 1065 Views
The quote is in my original post! - 23/02/2010 12:30:14 PM 778 Views

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