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"Well known" and "largely forgotten" are about as opposite as you can get! darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 13/02/2010 11:44:39 PM
Something to be "well known" and to be "largely forgotten" is not a controversy.

First of all, Sammael observation happen a way before Rand arrives to Arad Doman. During that time, Graendal easily Compelled large half of all nobels in Arad Doman. Which is pretty much what Sammael predicted - "every Domani who visited here left believing that this land had been handed down in her family since the Breaking".

Second, the nature of "well known" and "largely forgotten" are not that incompatible. The place may be very well known, as in someone says the name and you immideately recognize the name and point it. And the same name can be largely forgotten, as in someone is asked to say the hideout of Forsaken and the "well known" place does not come up in the list at all.


Graendal can only compel those who come to her. Seems likely that anyone they tell their story to about a "well known" estate that is suddenly changed hands would raise a few eyebrows. It would be like someone saying they had spoken to the President of the USA and telling you all about how it was John McCain.
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Additional clues that something doesn't quite add up in Graendal's death darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 03:34:43 PM 2011 Views
I brought all this up before.. fionwe1987 - 13/02/2010 04:52:39 PM 904 Views
Glad it's been brought up before darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 04:57:11 PM 847 Views
Assuming it's not her hideout . . . Palatine - 13/02/2010 05:47:22 PM 877 Views
I don't see problems Skeeve the Great - 13/02/2010 06:03:41 PM 908 Views
Also, Rand had to do some heavy research with the head librarian beetnemesis - 13/02/2010 07:15:27 PM 876 Views
no, Rand just sent a few scouts darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 11:56:33 PM 765 Views
"Well known" and "largely forgotten" are about as opposite as you can get! darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 11:44:39 PM 871 Views
I don't think so. Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 04:28:04 PM 828 Views
so now she's been there for the last 50 years? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:41:43 PM 729 Views
Re: so now she's been there for the last 50 years? Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 06:29:32 PM 767 Views
you mean the scouts he sent? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:52:59 PM 795 Views
He used scouts to find the place? Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 07:07:16 PM 741 Views
probably, but that doesn't make a difference. darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 08:33:35 PM 774 Views
Re: probably, but that doesn't make a difference. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 08:10:47 AM 796 Views
I agree - those are basically antonyms RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/02/2010 06:35:31 PM 777 Views
Like rotary phones, Milli Vanilli and the Macarena? JasonD - 23/02/2010 12:22:47 AM 702 Views
More... Kieran - 13/02/2010 07:37:45 PM 809 Views
Or it could be due to two different authors writing the story and nothing else. *NM* everynametaken - 14/02/2010 12:22:27 AM 357 Views
seems like pretty big differences darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 12:26:42 AM 750 Views
Not really. everynametaken - 15/02/2010 03:29:39 AM 735 Views
it's Maria's job to find these things darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 04:43:33 AM 754 Views
Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 03:45:23 AM 917 Views
Re: Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 01:08:38 PM 842 Views
Fine, then what if she changed location after Sammael was compromised? Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 04:46:52 PM 810 Views
Any number of things are possible darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:45:35 PM 754 Views
You don't get it. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 06:10:33 PM 760 Views
Go re-read it... I said there are discrepancies between what Sammael said and what Rand said darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:54:43 PM 866 Views
There aren't, really. DomA - 14/02/2010 09:56:53 PM 713 Views
so you think a kid who has likely never even seen a map knows the name of a castle darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 10:09:55 PM 827 Views
Two possibilities how Kerb knew the name Voscaia Sedai - 15/02/2010 09:04:14 AM 817 Views
There are infinite possibilities darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 12:48:23 PM 818 Views
Re: There are infinite possibilities Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 05:51:24 PM 784 Views
*sigh back* darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 06:08:28 PM 843 Views
Kerb wasn't planted by anyone. Fanatic-Templar - 15/02/2010 06:41:18 PM 784 Views
She's dead, people need to move on. *NM* Libby - 14/02/2010 07:34:31 AM 398 Views
I acknowledge that it's possible (even likely) that she is dead darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 01:09:53 PM 783 Views
Graendal is Toast with a capital T. Not possibly dead, not likely dead, 100% gone. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 04:48:09 PM 771 Views
This from you? HA! darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:44:16 PM 783 Views
Look, Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 06:02:32 PM 864 Views
seriously I think you are mistaking me for another poster darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:58:47 PM 756 Views
The discrepancies are due to the series being over 12 books long... Libby - 15/02/2010 08:59:24 PM 807 Views
I'm glad... Jeordam - 15/02/2010 10:07:06 PM 805 Views
I'm with you on her probably being dead only because it's so close to the end *NM* darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:30:42 AM 360 Views
Why was Kerb highly likely to be delved? Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 06:42:37 AM 861 Views
I think that I have my names mixed up.... Jeordam - 16/02/2010 04:17:46 PM 726 Views
Re: I think that I have my names mixed up.... Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 05:43:51 PM 993 Views
The quote is in my original post! darius_sedai - 23/02/2010 12:30:14 PM 732 Views
Yes; but those pieces of evidence basically separate the 2 schools of thought on her "death scene" *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/02/2010 03:59:41 PM 382 Views
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