Re: I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then
BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 14/02/2010 09:24:23 PM
What I want to see in this meeting is Rand confronting Egwene with all his LTT knowledge and experience. He will not allow her "righteous anger" get to him but respond in a cool tone and call her "little sister" and explain that he was the leader of AS in the AOL and has decided to resume his authority over all AS as the LB is looming. She can go and sit in the corner until he is ready to assign her duties to her. Hah!
I'm looking forward to his real "little sister" coming back (finally). That should be a great scene.

I'm still wondering why exactly he called her that - are they related? Was that LTT talking?
meaning he was essentially calling her a trainee.
Well, here is the passage:
I will do nothing without proof. I will not be goaded, this time. She was not the Egwene he had grown up with; she had become part of the Tower since Moiraine sent her there. Moiraine again. Always Moiraine. Sometimes he wished he were rid of Moiraine. Only sometimes?
He concentrated on her. "What do you want of me?" His voice sounded flat and cold to his own ears. The Power stormed inside him. Egwene had told him that for a woman, touching saidar, the female half of the Source, was an embrace; for a man, always, it was a war without mercy. "And don't mention wagons again, little sister. I usually find out what you mean to do long after it is done."
The Aes Sedai frowned at him, and no wonder. She was surely not used to being addressed so, not by any man, even the Dragon Reborn. He had no idea himself where "little sister" had come from; sometimes of late words seemed to pop into his head. A touch of madness, perhaps. Some nights he lay awake till the small hours, worrying about that. Inside the Void, it seemed someone else's worry.
--Rhuidean, The Fires of Heaven
He concentrated on her. "What do you want of me?" His voice sounded flat and cold to his own ears. The Power stormed inside him. Egwene had told him that for a woman, touching saidar, the female half of the Source, was an embrace; for a man, always, it was a war without mercy. "And don't mention wagons again, little sister. I usually find out what you mean to do long after it is done."
The Aes Sedai frowned at him, and no wonder. She was surely not used to being addressed so, not by any man, even the Dragon Reborn. He had no idea himself where "little sister" had come from; sometimes of late words seemed to pop into his head. A touch of madness, perhaps. Some nights he lay awake till the small hours, worrying about that. Inside the Void, it seemed someone else's worry.
--Rhuidean, The Fires of Heaven
So, it seems it was LTT talking, but the context just doesn't seem to fit with "trainee" - I think Rand and Moiraine are distantly related, but obviously not brother and sister. Just one of those unanswered things that drives me crazy
God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene
- 14/02/2010 07:02:20 AM
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My sentiments exactly, though I think I'm a little more hopeful than you are.
- 14/02/2010 07:58:01 AM
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Re: My sentiments exactly, though I think I'm a little more hopeful than you are.
- 14/02/2010 09:26:47 AM
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Just like Elayne treated him so well when she kicked him out of Andor?
- 14/02/2010 01:35:32 PM
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What? We are no longer allowed to make predictions of the coming books unless they're pro-Egwene?
- 14/02/2010 02:22:10 PM
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a theory vs. mindlessly attacking a character because you don't like them?
- 14/02/2010 07:00:27 PM
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It IS kind of ridiculous... but how do YOU think a meeting will go?
- 14/02/2010 07:20:08 PM
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Is Egwene going to do what Elayne did when she met Rand after tearing down his banners?
- 15/02/2010 11:25:27 AM
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You just KNOW that rather than compliment all the good he's done....
- 14/02/2010 03:06:09 PM
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Personally, I'm rooting for Elaida's Foretelling to be fake
- 14/02/2010 06:56:41 PM
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No way these are fake... she's not BA and she she says she's having a Foretelling
- 14/02/2010 08:24:29 PM
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Good point. And the "rent in fire and blood" part is almost certain as well.
- 16/02/2010 05:13:29 PM
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Take a sedative
- 14/02/2010 07:52:32 PM
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None of the Emond's Fielders suck up to him. There's difference between hostile and 1-upping
- 14/02/2010 09:01:35 PM
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Right cause Nynaeve is always going around telling people how much Mat's changed
- 14/02/2010 09:27:02 PM
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If you'll recall what Mat did 5 minutes after...
- 14/02/2010 11:06:41 PM
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Not really
- 14/02/2010 11:34:49 PM
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Re: Not really
- 15/02/2010 03:32:06 PM
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better than Nynaeve who just lies to herself in order to justify her actions!
- 15/02/2010 05:53:17 PM
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This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve.
- 15/02/2010 06:09:46 PM
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actually it's about all of the main characters
- 15/02/2010 06:13:27 PM
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Re: actually it's about all of the main characters
- 15/02/2010 06:39:25 PM
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Well said.
- 15/02/2010 07:20:47 PM
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Re: Well said.
- 15/02/2010 07:43:08 PM
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yet even Siuan seems to understand and accept Egwene's response ... odd that you can hold her to
- 16/02/2010 01:55:35 AM
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Oh, so Elaida's treatment of Sheremin is ok because Sheremin accepted it?
- 16/02/2010 06:49:53 AM
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watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon
- 16/02/2010 01:51:09 AM
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Re: watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon
- 16/02/2010 07:04:08 AM
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Alright enough. Will you read the books already?
- 16/02/2010 08:03:39 AM
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The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason
- 16/02/2010 01:34:30 AM
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Re: The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason
- 16/02/2010 07:08:13 AM
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Yes, but Egwene's is pride -
- 15/02/2010 07:04:25 PM
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I think Nyn has had the best character development, bar none
- 15/02/2010 08:52:54 PM
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Re: None of the Emond's Fielders suck up to him. There's difference between hostile and 1-upping
- 15/02/2010 05:08:49 AM
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It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour
- 15/02/2010 06:53:30 AM
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Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour
- 15/02/2010 08:41:02 AM
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Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour
- 15/02/2010 03:31:26 PM
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Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour
- 15/02/2010 11:57:24 AM
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Who says Egwene didn't have a destiny? *NM*
- 15/02/2010 12:46:10 PM
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Me. And I'm way smarter than you.
- 15/02/2010 01:04:48 PM
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- 15/02/2010 02:12:26 PM
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- 15/02/2010 02:12:26 PM
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Re:
- 15/02/2010 10:40:39 PM
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- 15/02/2010 10:40:39 PM
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Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main
- 16/02/2010 01:32:45 AM
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Re: Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main
- 16/02/2010 07:09:52 AM
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Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour
- 15/02/2010 03:48:51 PM
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Sidious' problem in a nutshell.
- 15/02/2010 11:27:12 AM
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Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene
- 14/02/2010 07:56:23 PM
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Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene
- 14/02/2010 08:55:58 PM
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I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then
- 14/02/2010 08:59:26 PM
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Re: I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then
- 14/02/2010 09:24:23 PM
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I don't think so
- 14/02/2010 09:30:41 PM
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Re: I don't think so
- 15/02/2010 03:45:52 PM
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That's pretty much how I see it too
- 15/02/2010 05:54:14 PM
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I understood little sister to be a mild insult, Moiraine being so young and weak in the OP *NM*
- 16/02/2010 08:25:55 PM
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maybe a touch patronizing? *NM*
- 17/02/2010 12:51:25 PM
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Appears to be, but his thought process implies it's not as simple as him merely looking down on her. *NM*
- 17/02/2010 05:07:19 PM
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand
- 14/02/2010 08:05:40 PM
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Re: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand
- 14/02/2010 11:55:40 PM
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Cadsuane needs to spank her.
- 15/02/2010 01:31:49 AM
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yeah, that's worked so well on her in the past
- 15/02/2010 01:48:05 AM
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It would be a very amusing moment.
- 15/02/2010 03:01:37 AM
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IMO it would merely be a hypocritical moment of massive proportions
- 15/02/2010 04:45:27 AM
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and a massive failure
- 15/02/2010 06:57:18 AM
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What Egwene needs is to be shown that her actions could harm the tower.
- 15/02/2010 08:46:30 AM
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If you hate arrogance, you must hate all the main characters in the series
- 15/02/2010 03:21:48 PM
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Everyone else is shown to be a bit small minded. Egwene is implied to be Strong And Wise
- 15/02/2010 09:23:47 PM
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When has she ever actually done that? Rand thinks she will, but so far she's done nothing like it!
- 16/02/2010 02:08:23 AM
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I meant that EVERYONE is bargaining, posturing, etc.
- 16/02/2010 02:54:29 AM
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Well miscommunication is one of the major themes of the series
- 16/02/2010 01:17:25 PM
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the most idiotic theme IMO
- 16/02/2010 03:27:26 PM
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I don't know if the theme itself is idoitic, but I would totally agree that it's gone nowhere!
- 17/02/2010 03:16:30 AM
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Re: Everyone else is shown to be a bit small minded. Egwene is implied to be Strong And Wise
- 18/02/2010 01:19:00 AM
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No, Cannoli has the right of it here.
- 16/02/2010 06:22:39 PM
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Well, all those beatings were in private
- 16/02/2010 07:54:00 PM
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That was the point of the scene in front of the Sitters during the banquet. *NM*
- 23/02/2010 06:58:50 PM
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Oh the one where Elaida tried to have her way with Egwene while the Sitters looked away?
*NM*
- 23/02/2010 10:12:04 PM
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*NM*
- 23/02/2010 10:12:04 PM
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Yes. Elaida wanted Egwene to be cowed in front of her into obedience, which would erode her support
- 23/02/2010 10:18:03 PM
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