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this is hilarious darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 15/02/2010 12:45:22 PM

That's a completely unfair assertion. Egwene was offered a life of power, decadence and greatness as an AS. Rand was offered a life where he would kill millions of people, the world would lie upon his shoulders, and he would eventually go insane and kill his loved ones to boot. Hardly a fair comparison. Egwene seems immature because she doesn't seem to realise the price that her actions demand until after she acts. She only seems to be aware of how badly she could mess things up in a very vague way.


"Offered"? She was dragged half way across the world on vague orders, then forced to become a puppet Amyrlin, with the likely result of failure being death. The difference between her and Rand is that instead of allowing herself to be manipulated she took control of her situation. Rand's solution is try and bully everyone around him, and thus alienate everyone. Egwene is at least smart enough to work within the system.

And were is this "life of decadence and greatness"? Thus far she's lived rough out of a tent, been the center of a ridiculous power tug-of-war between the Sitters of her Hall, and subjected to months of beatings in captivity. You think a few nice dresses and some jewelry make her life decadent or great?

And assuming Egwene would actually hold back the support o the WT? Even if you hate the character that much, you can't possibly think there is a plot point to that? The authors can hardly have spend all that time putting her in charge of the AS only to have them sit out because Egwene and Rand are in a tiff.

Hate her all you want, but at least get the facts straight!

The big thing to be upset with her about IMO was allowing herself to be indoctrinated into the Tower so completely, hello 3-Oaths. I hate that she fell for that particular BS! Earlier in the series she so clearly saw the value of Channelers being an active part of their society, now she's truly fallen into the "of a different flesh" mentality.
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God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene - 14/02/2010 07:02:20 AM 2749 Views
Just like Elayne treated him so well when she kicked him out of Andor? - 14/02/2010 01:35:32 PM 915 Views
It IS kind of ridiculous... but how do YOU think a meeting will go? - 14/02/2010 07:20:08 PM 1020 Views
We all do that - 14/02/2010 08:09:51 PM 1081 Views
You just KNOW that rather than compliment all the good he's done.... - 14/02/2010 03:06:09 PM 867 Views
Personally, I'm rooting for Elaida's Foretelling to be fake - 14/02/2010 06:56:41 PM 1168 Views
I thought she DID say "This I Foretell?" - 14/02/2010 07:24:19 PM 1010 Views
Yes she did. - 14/02/2010 07:34:43 PM 1207 Views
Take a sedative - 14/02/2010 07:52:32 PM 1053 Views
somethings we can agree on! - 14/02/2010 08:12:05 PM 1039 Views
None of the Emond's Fielders suck up to him. There's difference between hostile and 1-upping - 14/02/2010 09:01:35 PM 1020 Views
Right cause Nynaeve is always going around telling people how much Mat's changed - 14/02/2010 09:27:02 PM 1029 Views
If you'll recall what Mat did 5 minutes after... - 14/02/2010 11:06:41 PM 1050 Views
Not really - 14/02/2010 11:34:49 PM 946 Views
Re: Not really - 15/02/2010 03:32:06 PM 955 Views
better than Nynaeve who just lies to herself in order to justify her actions! - 15/02/2010 05:53:17 PM 1057 Views
This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve. - 15/02/2010 06:09:46 PM 1019 Views
actually it's about all of the main characters - 15/02/2010 06:13:27 PM 971 Views
Re: actually it's about all of the main characters - 15/02/2010 06:39:25 PM 1061 Views
Well said. - 15/02/2010 07:20:47 PM 1087 Views
Re: Well said. - 15/02/2010 07:43:08 PM 913 Views
yet even Siuan seems to understand and accept Egwene's response ... odd that you can hold her to - 16/02/2010 01:55:35 AM 841 Views
Oh, so Elaida's treatment of Sheremin is ok because Sheremin accepted it? - 16/02/2010 06:49:53 AM 1004 Views
how is that a good comparrison? - 18/02/2010 12:27:58 AM 864 Views
Re: how is that a good comparrison? - 18/02/2010 03:30:21 AM 1361 Views
watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon - 16/02/2010 01:51:09 AM 1050 Views
Re: watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon - 16/02/2010 07:04:08 AM 1029 Views
Alright enough. Will you read the books already? - 16/02/2010 08:03:39 AM 1082 Views
Fair points, & I somehow forgot that paragraph. - 16/02/2010 05:34:12 PM 999 Views
You've forgotten a lot of paragraphs. - 16/02/2010 07:58:32 PM 1109 Views
The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason - 16/02/2010 01:34:30 AM 857 Views
Re: The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason - 16/02/2010 07:08:13 AM 967 Views
I'm going to agee with fionwe - 16/02/2010 01:07:37 PM 924 Views
Same old same old - 16/02/2010 02:01:12 PM 943 Views
that B*TCH! *NM* - 17/02/2010 03:10:30 AM 677 Views
Re: Same old same old - 17/02/2010 09:32:03 AM 1068 Views
Yes, but Egwene's is pride - - 15/02/2010 07:04:25 PM 982 Views
I think Nyn has had the best character development, bar none - 15/02/2010 08:52:54 PM 945 Views
Re: I think Nyn has had the best character development, bar none - 15/02/2010 10:39:25 PM 973 Views
I feel Galad could be up there, but we see so little of him - 16/02/2010 12:28:44 AM 962 Views
are you being serious? - 16/02/2010 01:57:29 AM 941 Views
Re: are you being serious? - 16/02/2010 06:55:16 AM 1029 Views
Oh, I don't think so. - 16/02/2010 09:12:57 AM 910 Views
Re: This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve. - 22/02/2010 10:57:27 PM 1015 Views
It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour - 15/02/2010 06:53:30 AM 931 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour - 15/02/2010 08:41:02 AM 1191 Views
this is hilarious - 15/02/2010 12:45:22 PM 944 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour - 15/02/2010 11:57:24 AM 1203 Views
Who says Egwene didn't have a destiny? *NM* - 15/02/2010 12:46:10 PM 583 Views
Me. And I'm way smarter than you. - 15/02/2010 01:04:48 PM 1016 Views
- 15/02/2010 02:12:26 PM 1075 Views
Re: - 15/02/2010 10:40:39 PM 942 Views
Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main - 16/02/2010 01:32:45 AM 897 Views
Re: Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main - 16/02/2010 07:09:52 AM 988 Views
You need a re-read my friend - 16/02/2010 01:14:22 PM 954 Views
Sidious' problem in a nutshell. - 15/02/2010 11:27:12 AM 1055 Views
Re: Sidious' problem in a nutshell. - 15/02/2010 03:14:55 PM 1004 Views
I've never understood the fascination with Lanfear - 15/02/2010 05:52:27 PM 1034 Views
Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene - 14/02/2010 07:56:23 PM 972 Views
Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene - 14/02/2010 08:55:58 PM 907 Views
I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then - 14/02/2010 08:59:26 PM 1044 Views
Re: I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then - 14/02/2010 09:24:23 PM 896 Views
I don't think so - 14/02/2010 09:30:41 PM 900 Views
Re: I don't think so - 15/02/2010 03:45:52 PM 1004 Views
That's pretty much how I see it too - 15/02/2010 05:54:14 PM 930 Views
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand - 14/02/2010 08:05:40 PM 1139 Views
Re: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand - 14/02/2010 11:55:40 PM 1045 Views
Cadsuane needs to spank her. - 15/02/2010 01:31:49 AM 1038 Views
yeah, that's worked so well on her in the past - 15/02/2010 01:48:05 AM 942 Views
It would be a very amusing moment. - 15/02/2010 03:01:37 AM 920 Views
IMO it would merely be a hypocritical moment of massive proportions - 15/02/2010 04:45:27 AM 897 Views
and a massive failure - 15/02/2010 06:57:18 AM 1039 Views
What Egwene needs is to be shown that her actions could harm the tower. - 15/02/2010 08:46:30 AM 815 Views
Actually that role is being played by Covril at the Stump *NM* - 15/02/2010 02:13:42 PM 618 Views
If you hate arrogance, you must hate all the main characters in the series - 15/02/2010 03:21:48 PM 858 Views
But that's the point - 15/02/2010 03:26:03 PM 934 Views
Not quite. - 15/02/2010 07:11:56 PM 962 Views
Actually, you can't compare the two. - 15/02/2010 12:04:19 PM 1015 Views
No, Cannoli has the right of it here. - 16/02/2010 06:22:39 PM 1030 Views
Re: No, Cannoli has the right of it here. - 16/02/2010 06:51:28 PM 1063 Views
I actually think it will go the opposite way. - 16/02/2010 03:44:19 PM 972 Views

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