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I'm glad... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 15/02/2010 10:07:06 PM
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She used Compulsion so often like a hammer that one might forget that she could wield the weaker forms of it with great delicacy, twisting a mind’s path so subtly that even the closest examination might miss every trace of her.

That you brought this quote up. It just goes to show that Graendal could wield both the hammer and the scalpel as she wanted. One then wonders why she would lay the (obvious) Compulsion Smack Down on someone who is highly likely to be delved.

And just so everyone can read it again...I think that Graendal is dead for the simple reason that the end of the series is 2 books away. If this was earlier, I wouldn't trust this off screen death farther than I could pick up and toss Bela.

~Jeordam

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Additional clues that something doesn't quite add up in Graendal's death darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 03:34:43 PM 1971 Views
I brought all this up before.. fionwe1987 - 13/02/2010 04:52:39 PM 871 Views
Glad it's been brought up before darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 04:57:11 PM 807 Views
Assuming it's not her hideout . . . Palatine - 13/02/2010 05:47:22 PM 842 Views
I don't see problems Skeeve the Great - 13/02/2010 06:03:41 PM 876 Views
Also, Rand had to do some heavy research with the head librarian beetnemesis - 13/02/2010 07:15:27 PM 828 Views
no, Rand just sent a few scouts darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 11:56:33 PM 734 Views
"Well known" and "largely forgotten" are about as opposite as you can get! darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 11:44:39 PM 831 Views
I don't think so. Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 04:28:04 PM 795 Views
so now she's been there for the last 50 years? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:41:43 PM 690 Views
Re: so now she's been there for the last 50 years? Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 06:29:32 PM 732 Views
you mean the scouts he sent? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:52:59 PM 753 Views
He used scouts to find the place? Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 07:07:16 PM 708 Views
probably, but that doesn't make a difference. darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 08:33:35 PM 735 Views
Re: probably, but that doesn't make a difference. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 08:10:47 AM 759 Views
I agree - those are basically antonyms RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/02/2010 06:35:31 PM 744 Views
Like rotary phones, Milli Vanilli and the Macarena? JasonD - 23/02/2010 12:22:47 AM 665 Views
More... Kieran - 13/02/2010 07:37:45 PM 781 Views
Or it could be due to two different authors writing the story and nothing else. *NM* everynametaken - 14/02/2010 12:22:27 AM 341 Views
seems like pretty big differences darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 12:26:42 AM 714 Views
Not really. everynametaken - 15/02/2010 03:29:39 AM 696 Views
it's Maria's job to find these things darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 04:43:33 AM 716 Views
Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 03:45:23 AM 888 Views
Re: Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 01:08:38 PM 805 Views
Fine, then what if she changed location after Sammael was compromised? Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 04:46:52 PM 774 Views
Any number of things are possible darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:45:35 PM 717 Views
You don't get it. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 06:10:33 PM 724 Views
Go re-read it... I said there are discrepancies between what Sammael said and what Rand said darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:54:43 PM 825 Views
There aren't, really. DomA - 14/02/2010 09:56:53 PM 674 Views
so you think a kid who has likely never even seen a map knows the name of a castle darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 10:09:55 PM 786 Views
Two possibilities how Kerb knew the name Voscaia Sedai - 15/02/2010 09:04:14 AM 783 Views
There are infinite possibilities darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 12:48:23 PM 784 Views
Re: There are infinite possibilities Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 05:51:24 PM 750 Views
*sigh back* darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 06:08:28 PM 799 Views
Kerb wasn't planted by anyone. Fanatic-Templar - 15/02/2010 06:41:18 PM 747 Views
She's dead, people need to move on. *NM* Libby - 14/02/2010 07:34:31 AM 385 Views
I acknowledge that it's possible (even likely) that she is dead darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 01:09:53 PM 745 Views
Graendal is Toast with a capital T. Not possibly dead, not likely dead, 100% gone. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 04:48:09 PM 738 Views
This from you? HA! darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:44:16 PM 748 Views
Look, Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 06:02:32 PM 826 Views
seriously I think you are mistaking me for another poster darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:58:47 PM 719 Views
The discrepancies are due to the series being over 12 books long... Libby - 15/02/2010 08:59:24 PM 770 Views
I'm glad... Jeordam - 15/02/2010 10:07:06 PM 765 Views
I'm with you on her probably being dead only because it's so close to the end *NM* darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:30:42 AM 348 Views
Why was Kerb highly likely to be delved? Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 06:42:37 AM 820 Views
I think that I have my names mixed up.... Jeordam - 16/02/2010 04:17:46 PM 686 Views
Re: I think that I have my names mixed up.... Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 05:43:51 PM 960 Views
The quote is in my original post! darius_sedai - 23/02/2010 12:30:14 PM 695 Views
Yes; but those pieces of evidence basically separate the 2 schools of thought on her "death scene" *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/02/2010 03:59:41 PM 361 Views
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