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No, Cannoli has the right of it here. lilltempest Send a noteboard - 16/02/2010 06:22:39 PM
I kidd you not. If I was Caddy, I'd whip up to the White Tower, walk into Egwene's chambers, and give her a long spanking. She needs to stop being such a prick.


Spanking has no effect on Egwene because it's just pain. Her ability to take the pain and still keep her nose stuck up in the air feeds her sense of superiority. The fact that Silviana failed to see that and adjust her punishments accordingly made her character a joke. What she should have done was put Egwene's hair in pigtails and made her tote a doll around with her the way the Aiel did when she was behaving particularly childish. By forcing her to do something that causes OTHERS to look down upon her, they would have managed to put a crack in her arrogance. Egwene can take pain if she has to but she can't take being made a joke of, which is precisely what Silviana and the Reds should have done.

If they wanted a mere spanking to get through to her, all they would have had to done was bare her ass on the Warder training field, put her over their knees, and spank her till she howled. To bring her punishments into the light, where others could see her being treated like a child instead of an "imprisoned Amyrlin who was being beaten" would have been the intelligent thing to do. All they did, instead, was allow her to behave as an arrogant wench and manage to convince everyone that her resistance was "brave" instead of childish. Of course, the entire WT plotline was ludicrous, if you ask me. That two hundred year old women allowed a novice to push them around was laughable. Had it been written realistically, Egwene's "plight" would have been a joke in the Tower and, at the very least, the Black Ajah hunters would have put her in her place and put an end to her quest for power.

The bottom line is that girl needs to be humiliated in front of all of those who act like she is some kind of god and she needs to be humiliated in a big way. What's more, since she has always looked down on Rand and thinks he should be groveling to her, Rand is the one who needs to humiliate her. Publicly. Then, perhaps, she could stop acting like a twit and work with him instead of trying to control him.

Unfortunately, it's not going to happen. He'll bend his knee to her and be humiliated and treated like garbage just like anyone else who dares go against Egweenie. As was RJ's intent, after she has stomped him down he'll prostrate himself before her and swear to obey her every order without question. That way Egwene can take credit for defeating the Dark One since she'll be running the show and Rand will be naught but a tool for her to use. It will make me lose my lunch when I read it.
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God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene - 14/02/2010 07:02:20 AM 2750 Views
Just like Elayne treated him so well when she kicked him out of Andor? - 14/02/2010 01:35:32 PM 916 Views
It IS kind of ridiculous... but how do YOU think a meeting will go? - 14/02/2010 07:20:08 PM 1022 Views
We all do that - 14/02/2010 08:09:51 PM 1082 Views
You just KNOW that rather than compliment all the good he's done.... - 14/02/2010 03:06:09 PM 868 Views
Personally, I'm rooting for Elaida's Foretelling to be fake - 14/02/2010 06:56:41 PM 1169 Views
I thought she DID say "This I Foretell?" - 14/02/2010 07:24:19 PM 1010 Views
Yes she did. - 14/02/2010 07:34:43 PM 1208 Views
Take a sedative - 14/02/2010 07:52:32 PM 1054 Views
somethings we can agree on! - 14/02/2010 08:12:05 PM 1039 Views
None of the Emond's Fielders suck up to him. There's difference between hostile and 1-upping - 14/02/2010 09:01:35 PM 1021 Views
Right cause Nynaeve is always going around telling people how much Mat's changed - 14/02/2010 09:27:02 PM 1029 Views
If you'll recall what Mat did 5 minutes after... - 14/02/2010 11:06:41 PM 1050 Views
Not really - 14/02/2010 11:34:49 PM 948 Views
Re: Not really - 15/02/2010 03:32:06 PM 956 Views
better than Nynaeve who just lies to herself in order to justify her actions! - 15/02/2010 05:53:17 PM 1057 Views
This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve. - 15/02/2010 06:09:46 PM 1020 Views
actually it's about all of the main characters - 15/02/2010 06:13:27 PM 973 Views
Re: actually it's about all of the main characters - 15/02/2010 06:39:25 PM 1061 Views
Well said. - 15/02/2010 07:20:47 PM 1088 Views
Re: Well said. - 15/02/2010 07:43:08 PM 914 Views
yet even Siuan seems to understand and accept Egwene's response ... odd that you can hold her to - 16/02/2010 01:55:35 AM 842 Views
Oh, so Elaida's treatment of Sheremin is ok because Sheremin accepted it? - 16/02/2010 06:49:53 AM 1006 Views
how is that a good comparrison? - 18/02/2010 12:27:58 AM 864 Views
Re: how is that a good comparrison? - 18/02/2010 03:30:21 AM 1362 Views
watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon - 16/02/2010 01:51:09 AM 1051 Views
Re: watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon - 16/02/2010 07:04:08 AM 1031 Views
Alright enough. Will you read the books already? - 16/02/2010 08:03:39 AM 1082 Views
Fair points, & I somehow forgot that paragraph. - 16/02/2010 05:34:12 PM 1000 Views
You've forgotten a lot of paragraphs. - 16/02/2010 07:58:32 PM 1109 Views
The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason - 16/02/2010 01:34:30 AM 858 Views
Re: The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason - 16/02/2010 07:08:13 AM 969 Views
I'm going to agee with fionwe - 16/02/2010 01:07:37 PM 924 Views
Same old same old - 16/02/2010 02:01:12 PM 944 Views
that B*TCH! *NM* - 17/02/2010 03:10:30 AM 677 Views
Re: Same old same old - 17/02/2010 09:32:03 AM 1069 Views
Yes, but Egwene's is pride - - 15/02/2010 07:04:25 PM 982 Views
I think Nyn has had the best character development, bar none - 15/02/2010 08:52:54 PM 946 Views
Re: I think Nyn has had the best character development, bar none - 15/02/2010 10:39:25 PM 973 Views
I feel Galad could be up there, but we see so little of him - 16/02/2010 12:28:44 AM 963 Views
are you being serious? - 16/02/2010 01:57:29 AM 943 Views
Re: are you being serious? - 16/02/2010 06:55:16 AM 1031 Views
Oh, I don't think so. - 16/02/2010 09:12:57 AM 911 Views
Re: This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve. - 22/02/2010 10:57:27 PM 1016 Views
It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour - 15/02/2010 06:53:30 AM 932 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour - 15/02/2010 08:41:02 AM 1193 Views
this is hilarious - 15/02/2010 12:45:22 PM 944 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour - 15/02/2010 11:57:24 AM 1204 Views
Who says Egwene didn't have a destiny? *NM* - 15/02/2010 12:46:10 PM 583 Views
Me. And I'm way smarter than you. - 15/02/2010 01:04:48 PM 1016 Views
- 15/02/2010 02:12:26 PM 1077 Views
Re: - 15/02/2010 10:40:39 PM 943 Views
Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main - 16/02/2010 01:32:45 AM 898 Views
Re: Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main - 16/02/2010 07:09:52 AM 990 Views
You need a re-read my friend - 16/02/2010 01:14:22 PM 956 Views
Sidious' problem in a nutshell. - 15/02/2010 11:27:12 AM 1055 Views
Re: Sidious' problem in a nutshell. - 15/02/2010 03:14:55 PM 1005 Views
I've never understood the fascination with Lanfear - 15/02/2010 05:52:27 PM 1036 Views
Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene - 14/02/2010 07:56:23 PM 974 Views
Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene - 14/02/2010 08:55:58 PM 908 Views
I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then - 14/02/2010 08:59:26 PM 1044 Views
Re: I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then - 14/02/2010 09:24:23 PM 897 Views
I don't think so - 14/02/2010 09:30:41 PM 901 Views
Re: I don't think so - 15/02/2010 03:45:52 PM 1004 Views
That's pretty much how I see it too - 15/02/2010 05:54:14 PM 931 Views
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand - 14/02/2010 08:05:40 PM 1140 Views
Re: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand - 14/02/2010 11:55:40 PM 1046 Views
Cadsuane needs to spank her. - 15/02/2010 01:31:49 AM 1039 Views
yeah, that's worked so well on her in the past - 15/02/2010 01:48:05 AM 943 Views
It would be a very amusing moment. - 15/02/2010 03:01:37 AM 920 Views
IMO it would merely be a hypocritical moment of massive proportions - 15/02/2010 04:45:27 AM 898 Views
and a massive failure - 15/02/2010 06:57:18 AM 1039 Views
What Egwene needs is to be shown that her actions could harm the tower. - 15/02/2010 08:46:30 AM 816 Views
Actually that role is being played by Covril at the Stump *NM* - 15/02/2010 02:13:42 PM 618 Views
If you hate arrogance, you must hate all the main characters in the series - 15/02/2010 03:21:48 PM 859 Views
But that's the point - 15/02/2010 03:26:03 PM 936 Views
Not quite. - 15/02/2010 07:11:56 PM 964 Views
Actually, you can't compare the two. - 15/02/2010 12:04:19 PM 1017 Views
No, Cannoli has the right of it here. - 16/02/2010 06:22:39 PM 1031 Views
Re: No, Cannoli has the right of it here. - 16/02/2010 06:51:28 PM 1063 Views
I actually think it will go the opposite way. - 16/02/2010 03:44:19 PM 973 Views

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