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Well, the circumstances were odd at least Dark Knight Send a noteboard - 20/09/2011 03:26:40 PM
I agree with Jens that asking questions is never wrong, but there is no compelling evidence, unless you think the lies and unsubstantiated rumors passed off as fact in "Loose Change" is evidence.

The towers came down because of a combination of factors: (1) the actual shell of the building was the primary support structure (this might have been enough without any other factors), which was totally compromised when the airplanes ripped huge holes in that support structure, (2) the metal supports on the inside warped from the heat of jet fuel burning, which on its own might not have been enough to bring down the building, and (3) all of this happened near the top of the buildings, which essentially pushed all of the pressure down to lower floors.


The only problem I have with the "official" story is that it takes a lot of coincidences to make it work, just like the ones you listed. Is it impossible? No. But it just feels...dirty to me. The buildings collapsed just like a controlled demolition. But I do concede that all these odd coincidences are possible. I'm not as nutty as this conspiracy nut that I talked to last week. He claimed that the hijackers, and even Osama Bin Laden, were on the CIA payroll. People like to think that he government is capable of anything but that's pushing it!
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We really need to have Logic as a course in high schools. Tom - 20/09/2011 06:50:36 AM 1511 Views
Logic classes would be good in schools. Timthetrolloc - 20/09/2011 10:23:56 AM 1013 Views
Ugh. Ghavrel - 20/09/2011 11:30:59 AM 1052 Views
Re: Ugh. Timthetrolloc - 21/09/2011 12:03:31 AM 991 Views
Something tells me that no matter who answered your questions you wouldn't believe anyway. everynametaken - 21/09/2011 02:16:52 AM 965 Views
this is a controlled demolition Timthetrolloc - 21/09/2011 12:20:09 AM 1102 Views
That is an incredibly stupid argument. Tom - 21/09/2011 01:12:38 AM 1048 Views
I've seen controlled demolitions in person. They happen in the opposite order of the WTC collapses. Ghavrel - 21/09/2011 03:54:35 AM 1045 Views
Asking questions is never wrong. ironclad - 20/09/2011 12:22:22 PM 938 Views
Re: Asking questions is never wrong. Timthetrolloc - 20/09/2011 11:57:04 PM 1105 Views
Agreed Camilla - 20/09/2011 01:09:40 PM 972 Views
I've long advocated this for the reasons Tom states as well as others. Joel - 21/09/2011 06:49:28 AM 915 Views
I don't know if the Internet is degrading skills, or just giving stupid people a voice beetnemesis - 20/09/2011 02:33:24 PM 1051 Views
There is compelling evidence that 9/11 was not what it seemed Dark Knight - 20/09/2011 03:06:58 PM 1038 Views
No, there is not. Tom - 20/09/2011 03:19:43 PM 1149 Views
Well, the circumstances were odd at least Dark Knight - 20/09/2011 03:26:40 PM 1019 Views
As far as conspiracies go ... Nate - 20/09/2011 03:36:35 PM 1115 Views
what would be the motive for the US doing something that stupid? random thoughts - 20/09/2011 04:40:31 PM 916 Views
I'm not sure you got my gist. Nate - 20/09/2011 04:46:28 PM 970 Views
I don't think there is any evidience that Bush wanted to attack Iraq before 9-11 random thoughts - 20/09/2011 05:21:09 PM 983 Views
Um. Well, sure, that would be true. If you ignored all the evidence. Nate - 20/09/2011 05:45:23 PM 1082 Views
Well if you had argued that some Bush advisers wanted to attack Iraq I would have agreed random thoughts - 20/09/2011 06:35:07 PM 1018 Views
But that's what I DID argue. Nate - 20/09/2011 06:47:17 PM 1023 Views
sorry but you need to be more precise in your terms random thoughts - 21/09/2011 02:37:36 PM 1063 Views
I've always seen them as separate. Nate - 21/09/2011 03:33:14 PM 867 Views
and that is why I decided to drop it random thoughts - 21/09/2011 04:07:02 PM 1032 Views
Heh. Nate - 21/09/2011 04:15:34 PM 988 Views
And the explicit statement of a Bush Cabinet member. Joel - 21/09/2011 06:59:47 AM 1111 Views
I'm still annoyed. Nate - 21/09/2011 01:58:38 PM 905 Views
I stopped responfding when suddenly realized I didn't want to be in a Bush Iraq war debate random thoughts - 21/09/2011 02:53:29 PM 903 Views
Admitting error is a sign of weakness; Don Draper said so. Joel - 21/09/2011 05:37:31 PM 944 Views
and I pointed that it was was just continuin gthe Clinton policy random thoughts - 21/09/2011 02:30:13 PM 985 Views
Even if that were true, it would still be flip flopping on a central Bush platform plank. Joel - 21/09/2011 05:45:10 PM 1037 Views
In addition: Nate - 20/09/2011 05:57:33 PM 1124 Views
sorry but that is nothing more than a simple statement of fact random thoughts - 20/09/2011 06:40:51 PM 1037 Views
This is very frustrating. Nate - 20/09/2011 07:05:48 PM 992 Views
For the war on terror? Dark Knight - 20/09/2011 04:49:12 PM 1046 Views
And what was the war on terror supposed to accomplish? random thoughts - 20/09/2011 05:12:11 PM 992 Views
That contradicts the evidence. Tom - 20/09/2011 06:15:48 PM 1018 Views
Excuse me? Macharius - 20/09/2011 08:22:21 PM 1073 Views
Huh? Dark Knight - 20/09/2011 08:57:14 PM 1051 Views
the problem with any other theory is the make no sense random thoughts - 20/09/2011 04:36:02 PM 983 Views
Contemplate this.... Jeordam - 20/09/2011 04:27:52 PM 1008 Views
You just did not go Star Trek on me Dark Knight - 20/09/2011 04:44:28 PM 1027 Views
And how did you know... Jeordam - 20/09/2011 05:17:10 PM 1085 Views
Re: And how did you know... Timthetrolloc - 21/09/2011 12:16:26 AM 1083 Views
You should watch the pilot episode of the X-Files spin-off series The Lone Gunmen. TaskmasterJack - 20/09/2011 08:19:15 PM 1064 Views
humans tend to be very bad at critical thinking random thoughts - 20/09/2011 04:58:43 PM 949 Views
Won't help Praziquantel - 20/09/2011 08:15:36 PM 1018 Views
Make 'em all take debate. nossy - 20/09/2011 08:23:37 PM 976 Views
Would madam like a cane? Elaine - 20/09/2011 09:19:53 PM 1107 Views
Maybe a walker with tennis balls on the bottom. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 20/09/2011 10:33:39 PM 466 Views
Do you think it would help? aerocontrols - 21/09/2011 12:09:42 AM 970 Views
Re: We really need to have Logic as a course in high schools. Timthetrolloc - 21/09/2011 12:10:08 AM 1005 Views
Yeah, and the 100,000 pounds of sudden extra weight slammed into the towers at 400 mph...? Tom - 21/09/2011 01:05:18 AM 978 Views
Not actually the best example Isaac - 21/09/2011 01:56:03 AM 982 Views
what about the hole it cut into the frame of the building? random thoughts - 21/09/2011 03:23:07 AM 983 Views
Wouldn't make much difference Isaac - 21/09/2011 04:08:27 AM 1002 Views
OK thanks *NM* random thoughts - 21/09/2011 02:55:52 PM 522 Views
The fireproofing was scraped off the steel by the crash, so the beams melted. Aeryn - 21/09/2011 07:35:08 PM 1189 Views
Re: Yeah, and the 100,000 pounds of sudden extra weight slammed into the towers at 400 mph...? Timthetrolloc - 21/09/2011 03:02:19 AM 1016 Views
But how else would they fall down? Aeryn - 21/09/2011 07:42:27 PM 901 Views
You would force Euler on to the masses? Two Wongs - 21/09/2011 03:21:40 PM 1030 Views
You could still argue. Vivien - 21/09/2011 04:06:51 PM 919 Views
I didn't mean to imply that it is no fun to argue with a like-minded person Two Wongs - 21/09/2011 04:15:47 PM 931 Views
Eh, nobody uses pure logic all of the time anyway. Vivien - 21/09/2011 10:43:51 PM 1007 Views
Or they could just do more math. Cold, hard, beautiful math. Vivien - 21/09/2011 04:01:05 PM 926 Views
I love geometry proofs. Nate - 21/09/2011 04:10:57 PM 1088 Views
Me too <3 proofs! *NM* LaSombra - 21/09/2011 07:55:38 PM 546 Views
For pure enjoyment, here's a non math version. Vivien - 21/09/2011 10:10:40 PM 964 Views
+1 *NM* Isaac - 21/09/2011 07:59:57 PM 443 Views
Now we are talking... Everyone can benefit from some basic Euclid. jh - 21/09/2011 08:32:17 PM 1203 Views
Ha. Ha. Vivien - 21/09/2011 09:56:38 PM 1007 Views
As a follower of Cthulhu, I strongly disagree. Tom - 21/09/2011 11:13:55 PM 1170 Views
I really and truly appreciate your love of pure math for math's sake, but... Tom - 21/09/2011 11:10:03 PM 983 Views
Well, it requires a lot more science to really dispute things than HS can give someone Isaac - 21/09/2011 11:28:29 PM 980 Views
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