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But how else would they fall down? Aeryn Send a noteboard - 21/09/2011 07:42:27 PM
I went to an engineering/architecture school, so there was a lot of discussion in class of why/how they collapsed. It may seem strange or unexpected that it fell straight down, but really, how else would they fall? Why would you expect the building to fall sideways? The problem happened when the support struts melted and the top chunk of the building collapsed onto the floor below - collapsed straight down, as gravity would have it do. That floor couldn't hold, and also fell down.

The "explosions" would just be the noise (tremendous defeaning noise) of the buildling collapsing. Each floor, in fact, as it crashed onto the next one, one by one, would sound like an explosion. (Especially to a traumatized layperson. For what it's worth, the sound of the airplane approaching the building was just like the whistling of the bombs that I've seen in movies to me. The way the ground shook too. So if I didn't know any better, based on my eyewitness account, I might have said that the planes dropped bombs.)
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We really need to have Logic as a course in high schools. Tom - 20/09/2011 06:50:36 AM 1375 Views
Logic classes would be good in schools. Timthetrolloc - 20/09/2011 10:23:56 AM 915 Views
Ugh. Ghavrel - 20/09/2011 11:30:59 AM 951 Views
Re: Ugh. Timthetrolloc - 21/09/2011 12:03:31 AM 871 Views
Something tells me that no matter who answered your questions you wouldn't believe anyway. everynametaken - 21/09/2011 02:16:52 AM 866 Views
this is a controlled demolition Timthetrolloc - 21/09/2011 12:20:09 AM 994 Views
That is an incredibly stupid argument. Tom - 21/09/2011 01:12:38 AM 931 Views
I've seen controlled demolitions in person. They happen in the opposite order of the WTC collapses. Ghavrel - 21/09/2011 03:54:35 AM 948 Views
Asking questions is never wrong. ironclad - 20/09/2011 12:22:22 PM 836 Views
Re: Asking questions is never wrong. Timthetrolloc - 20/09/2011 11:57:04 PM 999 Views
Agreed Camilla - 20/09/2011 01:09:40 PM 878 Views
I've long advocated this for the reasons Tom states as well as others. Joel - 21/09/2011 06:49:28 AM 819 Views
I don't know if the Internet is degrading skills, or just giving stupid people a voice beetnemesis - 20/09/2011 02:33:24 PM 949 Views
There is compelling evidence that 9/11 was not what it seemed Dark Knight - 20/09/2011 03:06:58 PM 930 Views
No, there is not. Tom - 20/09/2011 03:19:43 PM 1024 Views
Well, the circumstances were odd at least Dark Knight - 20/09/2011 03:26:40 PM 902 Views
As far as conspiracies go ... Nate - 20/09/2011 03:36:35 PM 1005 Views
what would be the motive for the US doing something that stupid? random thoughts - 20/09/2011 04:40:31 PM 820 Views
I'm not sure you got my gist. Nate - 20/09/2011 04:46:28 PM 862 Views
I don't think there is any evidience that Bush wanted to attack Iraq before 9-11 random thoughts - 20/09/2011 05:21:09 PM 878 Views
Um. Well, sure, that would be true. If you ignored all the evidence. Nate - 20/09/2011 05:45:23 PM 940 Views
Well if you had argued that some Bush advisers wanted to attack Iraq I would have agreed random thoughts - 20/09/2011 06:35:07 PM 919 Views
But that's what I DID argue. Nate - 20/09/2011 06:47:17 PM 898 Views
sorry but you need to be more precise in your terms random thoughts - 21/09/2011 02:37:36 PM 935 Views
I've always seen them as separate. Nate - 21/09/2011 03:33:14 PM 760 Views
and that is why I decided to drop it random thoughts - 21/09/2011 04:07:02 PM 931 Views
Heh. Nate - 21/09/2011 04:15:34 PM 869 Views
And the explicit statement of a Bush Cabinet member. Joel - 21/09/2011 06:59:47 AM 995 Views
I'm still annoyed. Nate - 21/09/2011 01:58:38 PM 804 Views
I stopped responfding when suddenly realized I didn't want to be in a Bush Iraq war debate random thoughts - 21/09/2011 02:53:29 PM 809 Views
Admitting error is a sign of weakness; Don Draper said so. Joel - 21/09/2011 05:37:31 PM 842 Views
and I pointed that it was was just continuin gthe Clinton policy random thoughts - 21/09/2011 02:30:13 PM 891 Views
Even if that were true, it would still be flip flopping on a central Bush platform plank. Joel - 21/09/2011 05:45:10 PM 922 Views
In addition: Nate - 20/09/2011 05:57:33 PM 1009 Views
sorry but that is nothing more than a simple statement of fact random thoughts - 20/09/2011 06:40:51 PM 943 Views
This is very frustrating. Nate - 20/09/2011 07:05:48 PM 895 Views
For the war on terror? Dark Knight - 20/09/2011 04:49:12 PM 943 Views
And what was the war on terror supposed to accomplish? random thoughts - 20/09/2011 05:12:11 PM 887 Views
That contradicts the evidence. Tom - 20/09/2011 06:15:48 PM 912 Views
Excuse me? Macharius - 20/09/2011 08:22:21 PM 971 Views
Huh? Dark Knight - 20/09/2011 08:57:14 PM 944 Views
the problem with any other theory is the make no sense random thoughts - 20/09/2011 04:36:02 PM 867 Views
Contemplate this.... Jeordam - 20/09/2011 04:27:52 PM 896 Views
You just did not go Star Trek on me Dark Knight - 20/09/2011 04:44:28 PM 914 Views
And how did you know... Jeordam - 20/09/2011 05:17:10 PM 993 Views
Re: And how did you know... Timthetrolloc - 21/09/2011 12:16:26 AM 987 Views
You should watch the pilot episode of the X-Files spin-off series The Lone Gunmen. TaskmasterJack - 20/09/2011 08:19:15 PM 941 Views
humans tend to be very bad at critical thinking random thoughts - 20/09/2011 04:58:43 PM 849 Views
Won't help Praziquantel - 20/09/2011 08:15:36 PM 923 Views
Make 'em all take debate. nossy - 20/09/2011 08:23:37 PM 865 Views
Would madam like a cane? Elaine - 20/09/2011 09:19:53 PM 1010 Views
Maybe a walker with tennis balls on the bottom. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 20/09/2011 10:33:39 PM 418 Views
Do you think it would help? aerocontrols - 21/09/2011 12:09:42 AM 864 Views
Re: We really need to have Logic as a course in high schools. Timthetrolloc - 21/09/2011 12:10:08 AM 893 Views
Yeah, and the 100,000 pounds of sudden extra weight slammed into the towers at 400 mph...? Tom - 21/09/2011 01:05:18 AM 883 Views
Not actually the best example Isaac - 21/09/2011 01:56:03 AM 859 Views
what about the hole it cut into the frame of the building? random thoughts - 21/09/2011 03:23:07 AM 891 Views
Wouldn't make much difference Isaac - 21/09/2011 04:08:27 AM 898 Views
OK thanks *NM* random thoughts - 21/09/2011 02:55:52 PM 466 Views
The fireproofing was scraped off the steel by the crash, so the beams melted. Aeryn - 21/09/2011 07:35:08 PM 1081 Views
Re: Yeah, and the 100,000 pounds of sudden extra weight slammed into the towers at 400 mph...? Timthetrolloc - 21/09/2011 03:02:19 AM 916 Views
But how else would they fall down? Aeryn - 21/09/2011 07:42:27 PM 781 Views
You would force Euler on to the masses? Two Wongs - 21/09/2011 03:21:40 PM 942 Views
You could still argue. Vivien - 21/09/2011 04:06:51 PM 814 Views
I didn't mean to imply that it is no fun to argue with a like-minded person Two Wongs - 21/09/2011 04:15:47 PM 839 Views
Eh, nobody uses pure logic all of the time anyway. Vivien - 21/09/2011 10:43:51 PM 908 Views
Or they could just do more math. Cold, hard, beautiful math. Vivien - 21/09/2011 04:01:05 PM 819 Views
I love geometry proofs. Nate - 21/09/2011 04:10:57 PM 958 Views
Me too <3 proofs! *NM* LaSombra - 21/09/2011 07:55:38 PM 450 Views
For pure enjoyment, here's a non math version. Vivien - 21/09/2011 10:10:40 PM 862 Views
+1 *NM* Isaac - 21/09/2011 07:59:57 PM 391 Views
Now we are talking... Everyone can benefit from some basic Euclid. jh - 21/09/2011 08:32:17 PM 1081 Views
Ha. Ha. Vivien - 21/09/2011 09:56:38 PM 880 Views
As a follower of Cthulhu, I strongly disagree. Tom - 21/09/2011 11:13:55 PM 1063 Views
I really and truly appreciate your love of pure math for math's sake, but... Tom - 21/09/2011 11:10:03 PM 862 Views
Well, it requires a lot more science to really dispute things than HS can give someone Isaac - 21/09/2011 11:28:29 PM 880 Views
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