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it is a judgment call and I hope her decision is based on more than my guesses Ray Send a noteboard - 02/02/2012 06:53:50 PM
I am speaking solely from personal experience. I know women who have very strong beliefs on both sides of the issue and my personal opinion is that the pro-lifers would be more likely to stop funding RFTC if they felt it was sending money to PP than the pro-choicers are simply because they are pissed that PP is banned. In the end the pro-choice women tend to be concerned first about women's health and most will either continue to support RFTC or they will find other ways to support breast cancer research, like giving directly to PP. I don't think the pro-life women I know would find other ways to donate to breast cancer they would just find other causes.

I am not talking about what is right or what should happen, I am giving my opinion of which course of action I think would bring the most money to breast cancer research.
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Susan G. Komen cuts funds to Planned Parenthood. (with updated edit) nossy - 02/02/2012 04:32:27 PM 2623 Views
The most annoying part is in the sixth paragraph- abortions are only a small part of their thing beetnemesis - 02/02/2012 05:08:07 PM 1477 Views
I agree. nossy - 02/02/2012 05:20:17 PM 1348 Views
I can understand it though. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 05:45:55 PM 1440 Views
I can too, it just isn't for me. nossy - 02/02/2012 05:58:33 PM 1371 Views
Actually, there are longer-acting forms of birth control than the pill. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 12:37:42 AM 1354 Views
I do think that preventing abortions is their primary goal. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2012 01:08:05 AM 1346 Views
If they don't see that link, it's because they haven't looked. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 02:42:42 AM 1431 Views
That is a little unfair. Joel - 03/02/2012 12:48:46 PM 1694 Views
Won't someone please think of the children?! Dreaded Anomaly - 04/02/2012 05:03:27 AM 1420 Views
I think you're leaving out some important points. nossy - 04/02/2012 03:40:48 PM 1317 Views
Ah, the good ol' silent majority. Dreaded Anomaly - 04/02/2012 07:32:29 PM 1326 Views
So which moron is feeding you this crap? Ray - 04/02/2012 10:27:15 PM 1370 Views
A zygote isn't a person, because it doesn't have a brain. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 12:33:29 AM 1353 Views
It worries me when we think alike.... Joel - 05/02/2012 01:22:35 PM 1434 Views
Brain waves at 8 weeks are a myth. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 08:46:06 PM 1488 Views
"brain function... appears to be reliably present in the fetus at about eight weeks' gestation." Joel - 05/02/2012 10:42:35 PM 1424 Views
Oh please. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 11:13:50 PM 1372 Views
Re: Oh please yourself. Joel - 06/02/2012 09:15:26 PM 1253 Views
Quite a telling reply. Dreaded Anomaly - 07/02/2012 04:38:20 AM 1353 Views
Re: I quite agree. Joel - 08/02/2012 06:03:23 PM 1538 Views
You're taking an issue of objective facts and treating it like a day of playground gossip. Dreaded Anomaly - 09/02/2012 03:47:06 AM 1362 Views
No, your source, in which there is very little that is objective, did that for me. Joel - 11/02/2012 02:59:45 AM 1386 Views
I see you have continued to provide no factual arguments. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/02/2012 04:53:28 AM 1685 Views
I presented factual rebuttals. Joel - 19/02/2012 01:56:45 AM 1434 Views
You continue to miss the point. Dreaded Anomaly - 23/02/2012 10:22:24 PM 1521 Views
No, I got the point: You expect me to accept a heavily biased, partisan and combative "source." Joel - 07/03/2012 01:47:37 AM 1452 Views
The claim of brain waves at 8 weeks is still unsupported by evidence, i.e. a myth. Dreaded Anomaly - 15/03/2012 09:16:14 PM 1505 Views
Well, yes. nossy - 04/02/2012 11:14:47 PM 1457 Views
A silent majority may as well not exist, if it has no tangible effects. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 12:54:34 AM 1328 Views
You ignoring it is not the same thing as it having no tangible effect. nossy - 05/02/2012 02:11:36 AM 1445 Views
Ignoring what? You haven't shown me anything solid. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 05:25:23 AM 1328 Views
It's ok, we're done. *NM* nossy - 05/02/2012 09:29:05 AM 788 Views
Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. Joel - 04/02/2012 08:25:49 PM 1497 Views
Re: Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 02:11:28 AM 1359 Views
If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Joel - 05/02/2012 08:42:17 AM 1189 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 10:04:59 PM 1382 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Joel - 06/02/2012 08:57:38 PM 1319 Views
I'm done discussing my use of the term "oppression." The Tim Ryan stuff is interesting, though. Dreaded Anomaly - 07/02/2012 05:37:05 AM 1460 Views
Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 08/02/2012 06:01:32 PM 1569 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 09/02/2012 05:30:58 AM 1419 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 11/02/2012 02:58:00 AM 1420 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/02/2012 04:29:08 AM 1511 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 19/02/2012 01:54:30 AM 1404 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 23/02/2012 10:59:32 PM 1729 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 07/03/2012 01:47:44 AM 1396 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 15/03/2012 10:27:23 PM 1627 Views
There are problems with the implants LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 01:42:55 AM 1398 Views
Any form of birth control doesn't work for everyone, though. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 02:37:00 AM 1414 Views
Oh yes, I totally agree! My point is just that there are some barriers to handing out implants *NM* LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 03:38:05 AM 669 Views
You have a talent for understatement. Joel - 03/02/2012 01:08:40 PM 1414 Views
What on earth does that have to do with anything? Cannoli - 03/02/2012 01:47:42 AM 1306 Views
I was actually kinda with you until you closed with that anathema I condemned in my response to rt. Joel - 03/02/2012 01:39:06 PM 1361 Views
I agree that they have made Beast Cancer a cult but splitting with PP is just smart Ray - 02/02/2012 05:39:49 PM 1544 Views
I agree. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 06:00:17 PM 1326 Views
yes she is going to have to piss off one group or the other Ray - 02/02/2012 06:12:31 PM 1367 Views
Right nossy - 02/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1425 Views
it is a judgment call and I hope her decision is based on more than my guesses Ray - 02/02/2012 06:53:50 PM 1299 Views
Do you see a way Komen could have avoided pissing off one side? Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 06:55:36 PM 1332 Views
No, I don't. I don't believe I said that? nossy - 02/02/2012 07:53:50 PM 1257 Views
You didn't; I inferred it from the way you phrased that ("if she HAS to..."). Sorry. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 08:06:11 PM 1427 Views
I know I'm not always clear. nossy - 02/02/2012 08:32:47 PM 1348 Views
Just curious... Narg - 02/02/2012 10:07:49 PM 1340 Views
Not at all. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:24:19 PM 1375 Views
Not at all? Narg - 02/02/2012 10:32:31 PM 1291 Views
No. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:47:04 PM 1229 Views
My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes Ray - 02/02/2012 11:17:24 PM 1311 Views
Re: My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes nossy - 03/02/2012 12:08:01 AM 1326 Views
wow that may be the worst advice I had in weeks Ray - 03/02/2012 12:13:18 AM 1312 Views
Ooor, the best. nossy - 03/02/2012 12:25:56 AM 1294 Views
ok now you are just being mean *NM* Ray - 03/02/2012 12:46:12 AM 786 Views
The thread was going too well - I thought we needed the meanness. *NM* nossy - 03/02/2012 11:30:39 AM 724 Views
rabble rouser *NM* Ray - 04/02/2012 04:24:01 AM 795 Views
I misread this at first Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2012 12:51:44 AM 1336 Views
not to mention codeine seems to make me double post Ray - 02/02/2012 11:17:26 PM 2383 Views
I'm not so sure I agree. Or not completely. nossy - 02/02/2012 06:14:11 PM 1285 Views
I don't diagree with the way you see it Ray - 02/02/2012 06:39:41 PM 1362 Views
More inevitable than anything, considering who started Komen. Joel - 02/02/2012 10:19:34 PM 1341 Views
Never having heard of any of those except PP, my opinion may not be the most relevant... Legolas - 02/02/2012 08:32:48 PM 1408 Views
You don't know stuff. nossy - 02/02/2012 08:43:38 PM 1388 Views
I know the stuff that matters. Legolas - 02/02/2012 09:55:08 PM 1267 Views
That's true. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:34:32 PM 1390 Views
they may also be a afraid that PP will go the way of ACORN Ray - 02/02/2012 11:04:16 PM 1432 Views
"Accused" of = unfounded slander. Aeryn - 03/02/2012 12:13:30 AM 1455 Views
did you notice I called tactic disgusting? That doesn't mean it isn't effective Ray - 03/02/2012 12:45:10 AM 1387 Views
The investigation by Congress is well-known to be specious. It's the House GOP abusing their power. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 12:41:58 AM 816 Views
This is so foreign a debate for me Lews_TherinThelamon - 02/02/2012 10:16:15 PM 1399 Views
Must be nice. *NM* nossy - 03/02/2012 12:26:49 AM 803 Views
Re: stuff rebelaessedai - 03/02/2012 09:18:53 AM 1268 Views
I'm sorry, but what're we talking about when we're talking about "cancer" LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 12:49:34 PM 1341 Views
Obviously not adenocarcinoma, no. rebelaessedai - 04/02/2012 07:36:06 AM 1433 Views
I"m not that fussed. I'm just generally leary of research that has results like that LadyLorraine - 04/02/2012 08:35:04 PM 1271 Views
Fair enough. rebelaessedai - 04/02/2012 10:17:31 PM 1431 Views
Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. Joel - 02/02/2012 10:54:34 PM 1420 Views
Re: Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. nossy - 02/02/2012 11:03:32 PM 1295 Views
After a little more digging I have to say you are probably right. Joel - 03/02/2012 02:23:14 AM 1214 Views
They restored funding incidentally Isaac - 03/02/2012 05:43:47 PM 1329 Views
Unless I've missed it nossy - 03/02/2012 05:56:15 PM 1368 Views
You must have missed it then Isaac - 03/02/2012 07:07:13 PM 1315 Views
If you're referring to Cannoli nossy - 03/02/2012 07:19:25 PM 1465 Views
Multiple was not an accidental choice of words Isaac - 03/02/2012 11:46:30 PM 1319 Views
Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. nossy - 04/02/2012 12:41:42 AM 1363 Views
Re: Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. Isaac - 04/02/2012 01:53:25 AM 1558 Views
Well, I'll try again for both of us. nossy - 04/02/2012 02:56:42 PM 1410 Views
Re: Well, I'll try again for both of us. Isaac - 04/02/2012 07:40:25 PM 1350 Views
well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision random thoughts - 03/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1457 Views
Re: well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision Isaac - 03/02/2012 06:29:34 PM 1266 Views
I think that ship sailed long ago. Joel - 03/02/2012 08:45:13 PM 1304 Views
Truth Dannymac - 04/02/2012 02:07:20 AM 1348 Views
I do wonder a bit which lawmakers Fox thinks "pressured" Komen. Joel - 03/02/2012 08:29:50 PM 1284 Views
Beyond the 26 senators, I'd imagine rumor of the more reliable sort Isaac - 03/02/2012 08:46:31 PM 1350 Views
Well, if they wrote AS senators rather than friends of Nancy Brinker, that probably qualifies. Joel - 03/02/2012 10:24:11 PM 1395 Views
Judge for yourself Isaac - 04/02/2012 12:01:06 AM 1420 Views
Well, a public letter makes whether they signed it "Sen. so-and-so" irrelevant: It is political. Joel - 04/02/2012 04:07:20 PM 1348 Views
are you trying to disprove the study you posted? random thoughts - 03/02/2012 09:20:12 PM 1459 Views
To me, it depends on the nature of the contact, which I have not dug enough to discover. Joel - 03/02/2012 10:43:45 PM 1285 Views
you admit you have no incite into what happened Ray - 04/02/2012 04:27:17 AM 1370 Views
Actually, it looks like Komens new VP (and former GOP GA gubernatorial candidate) had the incite. Joel - 04/02/2012 04:24:14 PM 1414 Views
educated guess don't work when you are tinfoil hat wearing kool-aid drinker Ray - 04/02/2012 09:33:49 PM 1315 Views
Dude. nossy - 04/02/2012 11:20:49 PM 1202 Views
Yo mama? Joel - 05/02/2012 05:32:11 AM 1386 Views
whhhhhhyyyyyy nossy - 04/02/2012 11:23:58 PM 1371 Views
Why would I not think that? Joel - 05/02/2012 05:46:15 AM 1228 Views
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