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Re: Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. nossy Send a noteboard - 02/02/2012 11:03:32 PM
A politician got political; what a surprise. ;) The only thing unexpected is that they had been funding Planned Parenthood in the first place.

In fact, given that Komen is focused exclusively on eliminating breast cancer, and the many studies showing a correlation between oral contraception and breast cancer incidence, that is somewhat unexpected even apart from political issues. One would think studies like this one:

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2010/09/the_pillbreast_cancer_connection.html

or those the National Cancer Institute cites (see link) would discourage Komen from funding an organization that actively promotes and assists widespread use of a known breast cancer risk factor. In terms of overall healthcare it is a mixed bag; the pill increases the risk of some cancers but reduces the risk of others, and reduces the risks of unplanned pregnancy. However, in terms of breast cancer alone (which is Komens sole concern,) it seems pretty straightforward.


I'm not sure I agree with that, primarily because I find it unlikely that many people stop taking birth control because they are afraid of breast cancer. The lack of funding from SGK would have no bearing on PP's distribution of birth control, though it might have an impact on how many women could receive a breast exam. Priorities, really. I can easily see how the two orgs might feel the need to work together to make sure women know all the options and keep up with the preventative care and breast exams.
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Susan G. Komen cuts funds to Planned Parenthood. (with updated edit) nossy - 02/02/2012 04:32:27 PM 2132 Views
The most annoying part is in the sixth paragraph- abortions are only a small part of their thing beetnemesis - 02/02/2012 05:08:07 PM 995 Views
I agree. nossy - 02/02/2012 05:20:17 PM 936 Views
I can understand it though. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 05:45:55 PM 985 Views
I can too, it just isn't for me. nossy - 02/02/2012 05:58:33 PM 907 Views
Actually, there are longer-acting forms of birth control than the pill. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 12:37:42 AM 915 Views
I do think that preventing abortions is their primary goal. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2012 01:08:05 AM 882 Views
If they don't see that link, it's because they haven't looked. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 02:42:42 AM 953 Views
That is a little unfair. Joel - 03/02/2012 12:48:46 PM 1157 Views
Won't someone please think of the children?! Dreaded Anomaly - 04/02/2012 05:03:27 AM 965 Views
I think you're leaving out some important points. nossy - 04/02/2012 03:40:48 PM 907 Views
Ah, the good ol' silent majority. Dreaded Anomaly - 04/02/2012 07:32:29 PM 869 Views
So which moron is feeding you this crap? Ray - 04/02/2012 10:27:15 PM 903 Views
A zygote isn't a person, because it doesn't have a brain. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 12:33:29 AM 904 Views
It worries me when we think alike.... Joel - 05/02/2012 01:22:35 PM 930 Views
Brain waves at 8 weeks are a myth. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 08:46:06 PM 1041 Views
"brain function... appears to be reliably present in the fetus at about eight weeks' gestation." Joel - 05/02/2012 10:42:35 PM 939 Views
Oh please. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 11:13:50 PM 908 Views
Re: Oh please yourself. Joel - 06/02/2012 09:15:26 PM 798 Views
Quite a telling reply. Dreaded Anomaly - 07/02/2012 04:38:20 AM 854 Views
Re: I quite agree. Joel - 08/02/2012 06:03:23 PM 1036 Views
You're taking an issue of objective facts and treating it like a day of playground gossip. Dreaded Anomaly - 09/02/2012 03:47:06 AM 911 Views
No, your source, in which there is very little that is objective, did that for me. Joel - 11/02/2012 02:59:45 AM 935 Views
I see you have continued to provide no factual arguments. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/02/2012 04:53:28 AM 1151 Views
I presented factual rebuttals. Joel - 19/02/2012 01:56:45 AM 953 Views
You continue to miss the point. Dreaded Anomaly - 23/02/2012 10:22:24 PM 1041 Views
No, I got the point: You expect me to accept a heavily biased, partisan and combative "source." Joel - 07/03/2012 01:47:37 AM 960 Views
The claim of brain waves at 8 weeks is still unsupported by evidence, i.e. a myth. Dreaded Anomaly - 15/03/2012 09:16:14 PM 1004 Views
Well, yes. nossy - 04/02/2012 11:14:47 PM 965 Views
A silent majority may as well not exist, if it has no tangible effects. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 12:54:34 AM 909 Views
You ignoring it is not the same thing as it having no tangible effect. nossy - 05/02/2012 02:11:36 AM 1003 Views
Ignoring what? You haven't shown me anything solid. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 05:25:23 AM 901 Views
It's ok, we're done. *NM* nossy - 05/02/2012 09:29:05 AM 544 Views
Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. Joel - 04/02/2012 08:25:49 PM 991 Views
Re: Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 02:11:28 AM 889 Views
If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Joel - 05/02/2012 08:42:17 AM 746 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 10:04:59 PM 908 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Joel - 06/02/2012 08:57:38 PM 888 Views
I'm done discussing my use of the term "oppression." The Tim Ryan stuff is interesting, though. Dreaded Anomaly - 07/02/2012 05:37:05 AM 978 Views
Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 08/02/2012 06:01:32 PM 1059 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 09/02/2012 05:30:58 AM 943 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 11/02/2012 02:58:00 AM 974 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/02/2012 04:29:08 AM 1029 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 19/02/2012 01:54:30 AM 961 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 23/02/2012 10:59:32 PM 1243 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 07/03/2012 01:47:44 AM 900 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 15/03/2012 10:27:23 PM 1159 Views
There are problems with the implants LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 01:42:55 AM 933 Views
Any form of birth control doesn't work for everyone, though. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 02:37:00 AM 937 Views
Oh yes, I totally agree! My point is just that there are some barriers to handing out implants *NM* LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 03:38:05 AM 438 Views
You have a talent for understatement. Joel - 03/02/2012 01:08:40 PM 920 Views
What on earth does that have to do with anything? Cannoli - 03/02/2012 01:47:42 AM 867 Views
I was actually kinda with you until you closed with that anathema I condemned in my response to rt. Joel - 03/02/2012 01:39:06 PM 888 Views
I agree that they have made Beast Cancer a cult but splitting with PP is just smart Ray - 02/02/2012 05:39:49 PM 1041 Views
I agree. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 06:00:17 PM 838 Views
yes she is going to have to piss off one group or the other Ray - 02/02/2012 06:12:31 PM 913 Views
Right nossy - 02/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 954 Views
it is a judgment call and I hope her decision is based on more than my guesses Ray - 02/02/2012 06:53:50 PM 833 Views
Do you see a way Komen could have avoided pissing off one side? Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 06:55:36 PM 925 Views
No, I don't. I don't believe I said that? nossy - 02/02/2012 07:53:50 PM 827 Views
You didn't; I inferred it from the way you phrased that ("if she HAS to..."). Sorry. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 08:06:11 PM 901 Views
I know I'm not always clear. nossy - 02/02/2012 08:32:47 PM 912 Views
Just curious... Narg - 02/02/2012 10:07:49 PM 881 Views
Not at all. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:24:19 PM 936 Views
Not at all? Narg - 02/02/2012 10:32:31 PM 854 Views
No. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:47:04 PM 804 Views
My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes Ray - 02/02/2012 11:17:24 PM 904 Views
Re: My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes nossy - 03/02/2012 12:08:01 AM 901 Views
wow that may be the worst advice I had in weeks Ray - 03/02/2012 12:13:18 AM 841 Views
Ooor, the best. nossy - 03/02/2012 12:25:56 AM 835 Views
ok now you are just being mean *NM* Ray - 03/02/2012 12:46:12 AM 560 Views
The thread was going too well - I thought we needed the meanness. *NM* nossy - 03/02/2012 11:30:39 AM 509 Views
rabble rouser *NM* Ray - 04/02/2012 04:24:01 AM 522 Views
I misread this at first Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2012 12:51:44 AM 904 Views
not to mention codeine seems to make me double post Ray - 02/02/2012 11:17:26 PM 1942 Views
I'm not so sure I agree. Or not completely. nossy - 02/02/2012 06:14:11 PM 833 Views
I don't diagree with the way you see it Ray - 02/02/2012 06:39:41 PM 900 Views
More inevitable than anything, considering who started Komen. Joel - 02/02/2012 10:19:34 PM 855 Views
Never having heard of any of those except PP, my opinion may not be the most relevant... Legolas - 02/02/2012 08:32:48 PM 978 Views
You don't know stuff. nossy - 02/02/2012 08:43:38 PM 937 Views
I know the stuff that matters. Legolas - 02/02/2012 09:55:08 PM 841 Views
That's true. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:34:32 PM 917 Views
they may also be a afraid that PP will go the way of ACORN Ray - 02/02/2012 11:04:16 PM 979 Views
"Accused" of = unfounded slander. Aeryn - 03/02/2012 12:13:30 AM 999 Views
did you notice I called tactic disgusting? That doesn't mean it isn't effective Ray - 03/02/2012 12:45:10 AM 910 Views
The investigation by Congress is well-known to be specious. It's the House GOP abusing their power. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 12:41:58 AM 616 Views
This is so foreign a debate for me Lews_TherinThelamon - 02/02/2012 10:16:15 PM 951 Views
Must be nice. *NM* nossy - 03/02/2012 12:26:49 AM 616 Views
Re: stuff rebelaessedai - 03/02/2012 09:18:53 AM 860 Views
I'm sorry, but what're we talking about when we're talking about "cancer" LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 12:49:34 PM 872 Views
Obviously not adenocarcinoma, no. rebelaessedai - 04/02/2012 07:36:06 AM 899 Views
I"m not that fussed. I'm just generally leary of research that has results like that LadyLorraine - 04/02/2012 08:35:04 PM 855 Views
Fair enough. rebelaessedai - 04/02/2012 10:17:31 PM 904 Views
Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. Joel - 02/02/2012 10:54:34 PM 925 Views
Re: Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. nossy - 02/02/2012 11:03:32 PM 864 Views
After a little more digging I have to say you are probably right. Joel - 03/02/2012 02:23:14 AM 809 Views
They restored funding incidentally Isaac - 03/02/2012 05:43:47 PM 825 Views
Unless I've missed it nossy - 03/02/2012 05:56:15 PM 922 Views
You must have missed it then Isaac - 03/02/2012 07:07:13 PM 841 Views
If you're referring to Cannoli nossy - 03/02/2012 07:19:25 PM 979 Views
Multiple was not an accidental choice of words Isaac - 03/02/2012 11:46:30 PM 867 Views
Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. nossy - 04/02/2012 12:41:42 AM 888 Views
Re: Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. Isaac - 04/02/2012 01:53:25 AM 1088 Views
Well, I'll try again for both of us. nossy - 04/02/2012 02:56:42 PM 924 Views
Re: Well, I'll try again for both of us. Isaac - 04/02/2012 07:40:25 PM 878 Views
well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision random thoughts - 03/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1030 Views
Re: well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision Isaac - 03/02/2012 06:29:34 PM 807 Views
I think that ship sailed long ago. Joel - 03/02/2012 08:45:13 PM 836 Views
Truth Dannymac - 04/02/2012 02:07:20 AM 936 Views
I do wonder a bit which lawmakers Fox thinks "pressured" Komen. Joel - 03/02/2012 08:29:50 PM 830 Views
Beyond the 26 senators, I'd imagine rumor of the more reliable sort Isaac - 03/02/2012 08:46:31 PM 912 Views
Well, if they wrote AS senators rather than friends of Nancy Brinker, that probably qualifies. Joel - 03/02/2012 10:24:11 PM 949 Views
Judge for yourself Isaac - 04/02/2012 12:01:06 AM 964 Views
Well, a public letter makes whether they signed it "Sen. so-and-so" irrelevant: It is political. Joel - 04/02/2012 04:07:20 PM 897 Views
are you trying to disprove the study you posted? random thoughts - 03/02/2012 09:20:12 PM 958 Views
To me, it depends on the nature of the contact, which I have not dug enough to discover. Joel - 03/02/2012 10:43:45 PM 870 Views
you admit you have no incite into what happened Ray - 04/02/2012 04:27:17 AM 873 Views
Actually, it looks like Komens new VP (and former GOP GA gubernatorial candidate) had the incite. Joel - 04/02/2012 04:24:14 PM 926 Views
educated guess don't work when you are tinfoil hat wearing kool-aid drinker Ray - 04/02/2012 09:33:49 PM 822 Views
Dude. nossy - 04/02/2012 11:20:49 PM 778 Views
Yo mama? Joel - 05/02/2012 05:32:11 AM 930 Views
whhhhhhyyyyyy nossy - 04/02/2012 11:23:58 PM 900 Views
Why would I not think that? Joel - 05/02/2012 05:46:15 AM 818 Views
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