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You're taking an issue of objective facts and treating it like a day of playground gossip. Dreaded Anomaly Send a noteboard - 09/02/2012 03:47:06 AM
Sykes attacks specific claims (not the people making them) because they are being used as ammunition by "pro-lifers" who will latch on to any support for their epistemologically bankrupt position on what qualifies as a person. Her main point throughout the article is that making a claim based on letters or speeches is a recipe for misinterpretation of the original results which those secondary sources cite. You continue to dispute her actual conclusions (generally supported with direct quotes from research) with only baseless accusations of bias.

Some "pro-lifers" make claims about brain waves in fetuses. A careful trace of the citations finds that the original research does not support those claims. Further research into fetal brain development also fails to support those claims. If you can't dispute any of this on factual grounds, and it's clear that you can't, the rest of your ad hominem "she's attacking these doctors, but she just writes articles for About.com!" is just noise and distraction.
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Susan G. Komen cuts funds to Planned Parenthood. (with updated edit) - 02/02/2012 04:32:27 PM 2654 Views
The most annoying part is in the sixth paragraph- abortions are only a small part of their thing - 02/02/2012 05:08:07 PM 1510 Views
I agree. - 02/02/2012 05:20:17 PM 1395 Views
I can understand it though. - 02/02/2012 05:45:55 PM 1477 Views
I can too, it just isn't for me. - 02/02/2012 05:58:33 PM 1405 Views
Actually, there are longer-acting forms of birth control than the pill. - 03/02/2012 12:37:42 AM 1386 Views
I do think that preventing abortions is their primary goal. - 03/02/2012 01:08:05 AM 1379 Views
If they don't see that link, it's because they haven't looked. - 03/02/2012 02:42:42 AM 1464 Views
That is a little unfair. - 03/02/2012 12:48:46 PM 1731 Views
Won't someone please think of the children?! - 04/02/2012 05:03:27 AM 1455 Views
I think you're leaving out some important points. - 04/02/2012 03:40:48 PM 1346 Views
Ah, the good ol' silent majority. - 04/02/2012 07:32:29 PM 1352 Views
So which moron is feeding you this crap? - 04/02/2012 10:27:15 PM 1408 Views
A zygote isn't a person, because it doesn't have a brain. - 05/02/2012 12:33:29 AM 1380 Views
It worries me when we think alike.... - 05/02/2012 01:22:35 PM 1470 Views
Brain waves at 8 weeks are a myth. - 05/02/2012 08:46:06 PM 1527 Views
"brain function... appears to be reliably present in the fetus at about eight weeks' gestation." - 05/02/2012 10:42:35 PM 1463 Views
Oh please. - 05/02/2012 11:13:50 PM 1398 Views
Re: Oh please yourself. - 06/02/2012 09:15:26 PM 1282 Views
Quite a telling reply. - 07/02/2012 04:38:20 AM 1381 Views
Re: I quite agree. - 08/02/2012 06:03:23 PM 1575 Views
You're taking an issue of objective facts and treating it like a day of playground gossip. - 09/02/2012 03:47:06 AM 1398 Views
No, your source, in which there is very little that is objective, did that for me. - 11/02/2012 02:59:45 AM 1419 Views
I see you have continued to provide no factual arguments. - 14/02/2012 04:53:28 AM 1723 Views
I presented factual rebuttals. - 19/02/2012 01:56:45 AM 1464 Views
You continue to miss the point. - 23/02/2012 10:22:24 PM 1554 Views
Well, yes. - 04/02/2012 11:14:47 PM 1484 Views
A silent majority may as well not exist, if it has no tangible effects. - 05/02/2012 12:54:34 AM 1360 Views
You ignoring it is not the same thing as it having no tangible effect. - 05/02/2012 02:11:36 AM 1474 Views
Ignoring what? You haven't shown me anything solid. - 05/02/2012 05:25:23 AM 1357 Views
It's ok, we're done. *NM* - 05/02/2012 09:29:05 AM 808 Views
Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. - 04/02/2012 08:25:49 PM 1527 Views
Re: Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. - 05/02/2012 02:11:28 AM 1400 Views
If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 05/02/2012 08:42:17 AM 1220 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 05/02/2012 10:04:59 PM 1413 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 06/02/2012 08:57:38 PM 1347 Views
I'm done discussing my use of the term "oppression." The Tim Ryan stuff is interesting, though. - 07/02/2012 05:37:05 AM 1495 Views
Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 08/02/2012 06:01:32 PM 1603 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 09/02/2012 05:30:58 AM 1453 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 11/02/2012 02:58:00 AM 1448 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 14/02/2012 04:29:08 AM 1544 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 19/02/2012 01:54:30 AM 1436 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 23/02/2012 10:59:32 PM 1762 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 07/03/2012 01:47:44 AM 1429 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 15/03/2012 10:27:23 PM 1660 Views
There are problems with the implants - 03/02/2012 01:42:55 AM 1434 Views
You have a talent for understatement. - 03/02/2012 01:08:40 PM 1451 Views
I agree that they have made Beast Cancer a cult but splitting with PP is just smart - 02/02/2012 05:39:49 PM 1579 Views
I agree. - 02/02/2012 06:00:17 PM 1363 Views
yes she is going to have to piss off one group or the other - 02/02/2012 06:12:31 PM 1400 Views
Right - 02/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1455 Views
Do you see a way Komen could have avoided pissing off one side? - 02/02/2012 06:55:36 PM 1365 Views
No, I don't. I don't believe I said that? - 02/02/2012 07:53:50 PM 1300 Views
You didn't; I inferred it from the way you phrased that ("if she HAS to..."). Sorry. - 02/02/2012 08:06:11 PM 1484 Views
I know I'm not always clear. - 02/02/2012 08:32:47 PM 1372 Views
Just curious... - 02/02/2012 10:07:49 PM 1373 Views
Not at all. - 02/02/2012 10:24:19 PM 1411 Views
Not at all? - 02/02/2012 10:32:31 PM 1320 Views
No. - 02/02/2012 10:47:04 PM 1263 Views
My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes - 02/02/2012 11:17:24 PM 1346 Views
Re: My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes - 03/02/2012 12:08:01 AM 1357 Views
wow that may be the worst advice I had in weeks - 03/02/2012 12:13:18 AM 1345 Views
Ooor, the best. - 03/02/2012 12:25:56 AM 1324 Views
ok now you are just being mean *NM* - 03/02/2012 12:46:12 AM 801 Views
The thread was going too well - I thought we needed the meanness. *NM* - 03/02/2012 11:30:39 AM 742 Views
rabble rouser *NM* - 04/02/2012 04:24:01 AM 816 Views
I misread this at first - 03/02/2012 12:51:44 AM 1369 Views
not to mention codeine seems to make me double post - 02/02/2012 11:17:26 PM 2413 Views
I'm not so sure I agree. Or not completely. - 02/02/2012 06:14:11 PM 1319 Views
I don't diagree with the way you see it - 02/02/2012 06:39:41 PM 1398 Views
More inevitable than anything, considering who started Komen. - 02/02/2012 10:19:34 PM 1392 Views
Never having heard of any of those except PP, my opinion may not be the most relevant... - 02/02/2012 08:32:48 PM 1443 Views
You don't know stuff. - 02/02/2012 08:43:38 PM 1420 Views
I know the stuff that matters. - 02/02/2012 09:55:08 PM 1296 Views
That's true. - 02/02/2012 10:34:32 PM 1422 Views
they may also be a afraid that PP will go the way of ACORN - 02/02/2012 11:04:16 PM 1463 Views
"Accused" of = unfounded slander. - 03/02/2012 12:13:30 AM 1489 Views
This is so foreign a debate for me - 02/02/2012 10:16:15 PM 1431 Views
Must be nice. *NM* - 03/02/2012 12:26:49 AM 823 Views
Re: stuff - 03/02/2012 09:18:53 AM 1297 Views
I'm sorry, but what're we talking about when we're talking about "cancer" - 03/02/2012 12:49:34 PM 1370 Views
Obviously not adenocarcinoma, no. - 04/02/2012 07:36:06 AM 1461 Views
I"m not that fussed. I'm just generally leary of research that has results like that - 04/02/2012 08:35:04 PM 1305 Views
Fair enough. - 04/02/2012 10:17:31 PM 1460 Views
They restored funding incidentally - 03/02/2012 05:43:47 PM 1362 Views
Unless I've missed it - 03/02/2012 05:56:15 PM 1396 Views
You must have missed it then - 03/02/2012 07:07:13 PM 1366 Views
If you're referring to Cannoli - 03/02/2012 07:19:25 PM 1497 Views
Multiple was not an accidental choice of words - 03/02/2012 11:46:30 PM 1353 Views
Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. - 04/02/2012 12:41:42 AM 1395 Views
Re: Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. - 04/02/2012 01:53:25 AM 1589 Views
Well, I'll try again for both of us. - 04/02/2012 02:56:42 PM 1456 Views
Re: Well, I'll try again for both of us. - 04/02/2012 07:40:25 PM 1379 Views
well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision - 03/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1487 Views
I think that ship sailed long ago. - 03/02/2012 08:45:13 PM 1341 Views
Truth - 04/02/2012 02:07:20 AM 1380 Views
I do wonder a bit which lawmakers Fox thinks "pressured" Komen. - 03/02/2012 08:29:50 PM 1316 Views
are you trying to disprove the study you posted? - 03/02/2012 09:20:12 PM 1490 Views
To me, it depends on the nature of the contact, which I have not dug enough to discover. - 03/02/2012 10:43:45 PM 1324 Views
you admit you have no incite into what happened - 04/02/2012 04:27:17 AM 1398 Views
Actually, it looks like Komens new VP (and former GOP GA gubernatorial candidate) had the incite. - 04/02/2012 04:24:14 PM 1451 Views
educated guess don't work when you are tinfoil hat wearing kool-aid drinker - 04/02/2012 09:33:49 PM 1350 Views
Dude. - 04/02/2012 11:20:49 PM 1234 Views
Yo mama? - 05/02/2012 05:32:11 AM 1414 Views
whhhhhhyyyyyy - 04/02/2012 11:23:58 PM 1405 Views
Why would I not think that? - 05/02/2012 05:46:15 AM 1257 Views

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