It's not that I'm surprised they disagree. It's that they're Wrong.
beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 12/03/2010 06:39:30 AM
And by Wrong, I mean, "I believe their opinion on this matter is harmful and disrespectful to what I believe are important human rights, and I feel strongly enough about it to fight them on this."
So while I would never, ever, EVER support a law that made it illegal for them to spout their opinions, or even put those opinions into practice in a privately owned and operated space, I do take issue with them forcing their hatred and closemindedness onto a public school.
And before you say that we're forcing our views onto THEM... there's a difference. "Our" view on this matter is inclusive, "their" view is exclusive.* With "our" policy, we get to go to the prom, and they get to go to the prom, and they can sulk and be bigots in the corner if they want.
With "their" policy, they still get to go to the prom, but we have to sit out in the rain while they get to hear Marty McFly invent rock and roll.
*I use "our" and "their" to boil down the argument for the sake of my point. Obviously there are plenty of different sides.
So while I would never, ever, EVER support a law that made it illegal for them to spout their opinions, or even put those opinions into practice in a privately owned and operated space, I do take issue with them forcing their hatred and closemindedness onto a public school.
And before you say that we're forcing our views onto THEM... there's a difference. "Our" view on this matter is inclusive, "their" view is exclusive.* With "our" policy, we get to go to the prom, and they get to go to the prom, and they can sulk and be bigots in the corner if they want.
With "their" policy, they still get to go to the prom, but we have to sit out in the rain while they get to hear Marty McFly invent rock and roll.
*I use "our" and "their" to boil down the argument for the sake of my point. Obviously there are plenty of different sides.
I amuse myself.
Mississippi High School cancels Prom after Lesbian Student Wanted to Bring a Girl as Her Date
11/03/2010 11:56:10 PM
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Seriously, wtf is wrong with the US? *NM*
12/03/2010 12:08:32 AM
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This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage.
12/03/2010 12:50:12 AM
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Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with.
12/03/2010 02:03:32 AM
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Re: Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with.
12/03/2010 10:12:04 PM
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What???
12/03/2010 02:53:13 AM
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Actually...
12/03/2010 04:56:03 AM
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Oh, it is definitely self-defense.
12/03/2010 05:52:50 AM
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That analogy is not apt.
12/03/2010 06:10:27 AM
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Er...
12/03/2010 06:45:05 AM
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I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt.
12/03/2010 01:39:19 PM
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12/03/2010 02:05:54 PM
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I think you mean "I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt."
12/03/2010 02:45:23 PM
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That's right, I forgot to add that.
12/03/2010 03:23:25 PM
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It's a rather key piece of any attempted analogy, wouldn't you say?
12/03/2010 03:45:15 PM
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Re: That analogy is not apt.
12/03/2010 02:06:51 PM
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It's not that I'm surprised they disagree. It's that they're Wrong.
12/03/2010 06:39:30 AM
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Re: This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage.
12/03/2010 02:31:06 PM
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Why don't you show me where I said marriage is holy OR made a religious argument, you imbecile?
12/03/2010 10:32:42 PM
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actually, i thought i read that it was because she wanted to wear a tux instead of a dress
12/03/2010 02:46:00 AM
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Kind of a different can of worms then
12/03/2010 03:20:35 AM
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What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over.
14/03/2010 01:24:47 AM
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Hmm. Apparently it is legal to discriminate upon the basis of gender. Imagine that.
14/03/2010 02:45:51 AM
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It kind of makes sense, given the highly arbitrary and stereotypical nature of gender.
14/03/2010 03:35:44 AM
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Re: What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over.
15/03/2010 02:01:00 AM
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It is a great case of Selective Outrage, IMHO
12/03/2010 03:10:01 AM
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Maybe.
12/03/2010 06:34:42 AM
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"ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters"
12/03/2010 12:31:14 PM
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As is often the case, there seems to be a fair amount of assumption going on here.
12/03/2010 02:22:48 PM
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Just giving the benefit of the doubt...
12/03/2010 02:57:23 PM
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Re: "Pursuing their ideology"
12/03/2010 07:23:54 PM
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Re: "Pursuing their ideology"
12/03/2010 08:17:25 PM
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That wasn't the impression I was under
12/03/2010 11:23:08 PM
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Re: That wasn't the impression I was under
13/03/2010 12:09:08 AM
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Pshhh there's a difference between "wear SOME clothes" and "wear a tux"
15/03/2010 01:40:37 AM
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For the record...
12/03/2010 06:48:25 AM
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Re: For the record...
12/03/2010 01:04:33 PM
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Re: For the record...
12/03/2010 07:08:06 PM
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Re: For the record...
12/03/2010 08:08:42 PM
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No no, I know how you feel. I'm just disinclined to have sympathy for the school.
12/03/2010 11:28:35 PM
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Alternatively, I have little sympathy for the school, I just don't have much for her either
12/03/2010 11:56:08 PM
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Don't you think you're sensationalizing this just a bit?
12/03/2010 05:42:21 AM
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Regardless of "rights" invovled, I don't see why she shouldn't be able to go as she pleases.
12/03/2010 05:25:31 PM
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When I was in high school, my girlfriend and I formulated a petition so we'd be able to attend
12/03/2010 07:55:33 PM
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Another thing I think people should remember -
12/03/2010 07:59:43 PM
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One point though
12/03/2010 08:40:32 PM
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Re: One point though
12/03/2010 08:46:30 PM
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My point was that it was a hollow reassurance
12/03/2010 09:35:46 PM
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yah, but honestly, is a tux really going to upset anyone that much?
13/03/2010 04:50:08 PM
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Just because it wouldn't bother you doesn't mean it won't bother anyone else
13/03/2010 06:38:03 PM
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It does
13/03/2010 07:35:39 PM
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Re: It does
13/03/2010 07:48:35 PM
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I typically agree with you
13/03/2010 09:19:27 PM
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Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory
13/03/2010 10:17:27 PM
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Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory
15/03/2010 01:49:34 AM
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Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory
15/03/2010 02:44:17 AM
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He wasn't neccessarily advocating it. He was translating what they were doing into something that
16/03/2010 01:37:59 AM
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I'd argue that that kind of hypocrisy is invaluable in today's world, actually.
16/03/2010 01:46:16 AM
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Re: It does
13/03/2010 08:18:03 PM
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Re: It does
13/03/2010 09:30:21 PM
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Re: It does
13/03/2010 10:11:21 PM
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Damn. Poor liberals, all revved up with nothing to fight for. *NM*
12/03/2010 10:16:12 PM
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So... they were ready to fight something bad, and nothing bad happened
12/03/2010 11:30:02 PM
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