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Re: Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 12/03/2010 10:12:04 PM
Same sex marriages are normal marriages. There is nothing abnormal about them. Two men loving each other is the same as a man and a woman loving each other which is the same as two women loving each other. All these relationships are largely the same with only minor differences. It is not until the question of religion is brought into the picture that anything can be said to be wrong about them. Why shouldn't they be afforded the same rights as all of us? A Justice of the Peace has the power to marry people outside the bounds of religion, which throws the whole sanctity of marriage and the church question right out the door, so why shouldn't a Justice of the Peace be allowed to marry same sex couples?
Why can't they just call themselves married? Why does a Justice have to marry people in circumstances he does not believe in? Because the truth is that they want to impose their relationships on the rest of us. They want to force their beliefs down every one else's throat. Marriage has nothing to do with love, it is about mating & reproducing. Back when marriages were about property and family alliances, the divorce rate was much lower.

Likewise, if a prom is for the student body, then all members of the student body should be allowed to attend regardless of how others feel.
Then it follows that they should be able to do whatever they want? If a 17 year old girl wants to bring a 30 year old boyfriend that's okay? What about drinking and drugs? Why shouldn't those be allowed at a prom? It IS for the students after all, and even the queer chick admits the majority support the decision. She has the exact same right to attend as any other student, under the exact same conditions. The problem is, she wants to engage in activity and behavior that is not in keeping with the rules and the set of a the prom as the hosting authority - the school district - sees it. If it IS for the students, then let the students host the damn thing. They have already received a free education for up to a dozen years from that same school district, why are they owed a party too?

If our basic right to be free from persecution regardless of race, sex, religion or personal beliefs is to hold true it must hold true for all people in all circumstances and if you don't believe that you must be willing to accept persecution for yourself. You must be willing to be fired from a job for who you are, or to be denied anything for who you are.


That is absurd. There are limits to those freedoms and they end where other people's rights begin. No one is dragging her out of her bedroom to be punished, the people who are throwing the party set for the circumstances and they are being applied equally to everyone. No one is saying she can't be a lesbian, they are saying she may not bring a same sex date and she must adhere to the dress code. The people throwing and hosting the party have every right to do so. You speak about freedom from persecution, but that is exactly what legal recognition of same sex novelty institutions will violate. People will be persecuted by being forced to give recognition and support things that violate their beliefs.
As for your retarded final assertion, you obviously seem to think I would have a problem with that. Setting aside the fact that I am a member of the most-persecuted religion in the history of my country, which once had a national-level party organized in opposition to it, where only three adherents have ever been nominated from President and in the first two incidents, their religion was made a major issue of the campaign. I would have no problem being fired from a job for my beliefs as long as that was the universal position. I would have no problem with employers being allowed to fire employees for their beliefs, if not for the fact that a great many people have already made an issue of it. That is the only reason I would protest. I have nothing against employers doing what they want with their money...as long as that principle is applied evenhandedly.
Cannoli
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Mississippi High School cancels Prom after Lesbian Student Wanted to Bring a Girl as Her Date - 11/03/2010 11:56:10 PM 1801 Views
Seriously, wtf is wrong with the US? *NM* - 12/03/2010 12:08:32 AM 289 Views
Not ALL of the US. There were same-sex couples at my prom. *NM* - 12/03/2010 12:26:24 AM 323 Views
Yeah, don't worry, I know it's not like that everywhere. - 12/03/2010 09:15:43 AM 679 Views
This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage. - 12/03/2010 12:50:12 AM 922 Views
Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with. - 12/03/2010 02:03:32 AM 754 Views
Re: Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with. - 12/03/2010 10:12:04 PM 757 Views
Ummmm.... no. - 12/03/2010 11:02:50 PM 764 Views
i totally agree 100% with what you're saying - 12/03/2010 02:33:55 AM 875 Views
What??? - 12/03/2010 02:53:13 AM 826 Views
Actually... - 12/03/2010 04:56:03 AM 845 Views
Oh, it is definitely self-defense. - 12/03/2010 05:52:50 AM 765 Views
That analogy is not apt. - 12/03/2010 06:10:27 AM 821 Views
Er... - 12/03/2010 06:45:05 AM 699 Views
I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt. - 12/03/2010 01:39:19 PM 767 Views
... - 12/03/2010 02:05:54 PM 688 Views
I think you mean "I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt." - 12/03/2010 02:45:23 PM 702 Views
That's right, I forgot to add that. - 12/03/2010 03:23:25 PM 753 Views
It's a rather key piece of any attempted analogy, wouldn't you say? - 12/03/2010 03:45:15 PM 645 Views
Again, you're right. - 12/03/2010 03:59:13 PM 632 Views
Yup. - 12/03/2010 04:02:26 PM 734 Views
Not really. Her point is that they should both be illegal. - 12/03/2010 07:01:47 PM 661 Views
Re: That analogy is not apt. - 12/03/2010 02:06:51 PM 706 Views
And when the school refused to change it's policy... - 12/03/2010 03:25:03 PM 659 Views
Absurd. - 12/03/2010 08:27:19 PM 730 Views
The rules were unjust. - 13/03/2010 05:09:59 AM 768 Views
Wow, talk about proving my point! - 12/03/2010 11:04:34 PM 868 Views
So hang on. - 13/03/2010 05:04:58 AM 746 Views
It's not that I'm surprised they disagree. It's that they're Wrong. - 12/03/2010 06:39:30 AM 737 Views
It is a great case of Selective Outrage, IMHO - 12/03/2010 03:10:01 AM 778 Views
Maybe. - 12/03/2010 06:34:42 AM 778 Views
"ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" - 12/03/2010 12:31:14 PM 701 Views
Re: "ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" - 12/03/2010 01:53:39 PM 724 Views
Re: "ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" - 12/03/2010 03:04:43 PM 686 Views
As is often the case, there seems to be a fair amount of assumption going on here. - 12/03/2010 02:22:48 PM 681 Views
Just giving the benefit of the doubt... - 12/03/2010 02:57:23 PM 743 Views
Re: "Pursuing their ideology" - 12/03/2010 07:23:54 PM 715 Views
Re: "Pursuing their ideology" - 12/03/2010 08:17:25 PM 710 Views
That wasn't the impression I was under - 12/03/2010 11:23:08 PM 604 Views
Re: That wasn't the impression I was under - 13/03/2010 12:09:08 AM 758 Views
Pshhh there's a difference between "wear SOME clothes" and "wear a tux" - 15/03/2010 01:40:37 AM 648 Views
Your comments are inconsistent - 15/03/2010 02:09:43 AM 702 Views
I think you're optimistic about what her chances would've been - 12/03/2010 07:13:38 PM 714 Views
For the record... - 12/03/2010 06:48:25 AM 693 Views
Re: For the record... - 12/03/2010 01:04:33 PM 741 Views
Re: For the record... - 12/03/2010 07:08:06 PM 757 Views
Re: For the record... - 12/03/2010 08:08:42 PM 729 Views
Don't you think you're sensationalizing this just a bit? - 12/03/2010 05:42:21 AM 703 Views
Actually it is that reductionist - 12/03/2010 01:46:23 PM 703 Views
Re: Actually it is that reductionist - 12/03/2010 07:25:41 PM 779 Views
I have issues with both sides, I think - 12/03/2010 02:44:06 PM 667 Views
When I was in high school, my girlfriend and I formulated a petition so we'd be able to attend - 12/03/2010 07:55:33 PM 825 Views
Another thing I think people should remember - - 12/03/2010 07:59:43 PM 823 Views
One point though - 12/03/2010 08:40:32 PM 747 Views
Re: One point though - 12/03/2010 08:46:30 PM 811 Views
My point was that it was a hollow reassurance - 12/03/2010 09:35:46 PM 634 Views
yah, but honestly, is a tux really going to upset anyone that much? - 13/03/2010 04:50:08 PM 609 Views
Just because it wouldn't bother you doesn't mean it won't bother anyone else - 13/03/2010 06:38:03 PM 669 Views
It does - 13/03/2010 07:35:39 PM 654 Views
Re: It does - 13/03/2010 07:48:35 PM 605 Views
I typically agree with you - 13/03/2010 09:19:27 PM 710 Views
Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory - 13/03/2010 10:17:27 PM 647 Views
yah, but at this point, how much of it is the girl? - 13/03/2010 10:24:57 PM 608 Views
Is she a child or an adult? IIRC she's 18 - 13/03/2010 11:33:39 PM 665 Views
No, it should not - 14/03/2010 12:33:56 AM 869 Views
Re: No, it should not - 14/03/2010 01:16:33 AM 784 Views
I understood that. You explained it well. *NM* - 14/03/2010 03:28:10 AM 305 Views
Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory - 15/03/2010 01:49:34 AM 710 Views
Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory - 15/03/2010 02:44:17 AM 587 Views
This is definitely true - 15/03/2010 04:27:43 AM 740 Views
Re: This is definitely true - 15/03/2010 05:18:11 AM 985 Views
Re: It does - 13/03/2010 08:18:03 PM 682 Views
Re: It does - 13/03/2010 09:30:21 PM 605 Views
Re: It does - 13/03/2010 10:11:21 PM 800 Views
Re: It does - 14/03/2010 12:11:11 AM 704 Views
Re: It does - 14/03/2010 03:42:06 AM 741 Views
Re: It does - 14/03/2010 12:47:47 AM 757 Views
Re: It does - 14/03/2010 04:09:18 AM 718 Views
You make good points. *NM* - 15/03/2010 08:08:37 PM 277 Views
Ah, yes, "the rules." - 15/03/2010 01:47:31 AM 640 Views
Read my replies to Nossy and Ghavrel - 15/03/2010 05:01:29 AM 714 Views
Slippery slope arguments are stupid. - 14/03/2010 12:43:00 AM 592 Views
So is likening everythng back to the Civil Rights Movement - 14/03/2010 04:17:54 AM 753 Views
"Dress codes exists for a reason?" - 15/03/2010 01:43:36 AM 654 Views
They do - 15/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 770 Views
Damn. Poor liberals, all revved up with nothing to fight for. *NM* - 12/03/2010 10:16:12 PM 455 Views
So... they were ready to fight something bad, and nothing bad happened - 12/03/2010 11:30:02 PM 593 Views
Teenaged lesbians - 15/03/2010 06:55:12 AM 704 Views

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