Same sex marriages are normal marriages. There is nothing abnormal about them. Two men loving each other is the same as a man and a woman loving each other which is the same as two women loving each other. All these relationships are largely the same with only minor differences. It is not until the question of religion is brought into the picture that anything can be said to be wrong about them. Why shouldn't they be afforded the same rights as all of us? A Justice of the Peace has the power to marry people outside the bounds of religion, which throws the whole sanctity of marriage and the church question right out the door, so why shouldn't a Justice of the Peace be allowed to marry same sex couples?
Why can't they just call themselves married? Why does a Justice have to marry people in circumstances he does not believe in? Because the truth is that they want to impose their relationships on the rest of us. They want to force their beliefs down every one else's throat. Marriage has nothing to do with love, it is about mating & reproducing. Back when marriages were about property and family alliances, the divorce rate was much lower. What! That is ridiculous. They do not seek to impose upon the rest of the world their views, they simply want their views accepted, is that wrong? Is it so wrong to make a stand for what you believe, which is really all a same-sex marriage is. They can't just say their married because 1)there is no legitamacy there, everyone else gets a real marriage, and they have their rights based on their views and 2)they are making a stand by getting married. They aren't saying that the rest of the world has to be like them, just that they want acceptance for their views. They (as evidenced by yourself) face enough prejedice as is.
Likewise, if a prom is for the student body, then all members of the student body should be allowed to attend regardless of how others feel.
Then it follows that they should be able to do whatever they want? If a 17 year old girl wants to bring a 30 year old boyfriend that's okay? What about drinking and drugs? Why shouldn't those be allowed at a prom? It IS for the students after all, and even the queer chick admits the majority support the decision. She has the exact same right to attend as any other student, under the exact same conditions. The problem is, she wants to engage in activity and behavior that is not in keeping with the rules and the set of a the prom as the hosting authority - the school district - sees it. If it IS for the students, then let the students host the damn thing. They have already received a free education for up to a dozen years from that same school district, why are they owed a party too?Ok, that really doesn't make any sense. And goes against a major concept of Enlightenment philosophy upon which America was founded. That is, the majority gets its way without restricting the rights of the minorities. It is a violation of absolutely no one's rights for this girl to go to the dance. No one's. But denying her, and canceling the dance is denying everyone's rights. And even in the hypothetical situation that they just denied her access, that would be denying the minority rights because it is in the will of a majority.
Take a hypothetical example of a dance in a racist community in America in the last century. A caucasian person wants to bring along his/her african american girl/boy friend. And because there are so many people in the area that are opposed to interracial marriage, they cancel the dance because it goes against school policy or whatever you were talking about up there.
Is that right? Is that fair? If you think so than no one can even argue with you because you have morals that were outdated in 1900.
And your example about drugs is ridiculous. That impedes on other peoples possiblity to have fun, whereas one couple in a whole dance won't change anything.
If our basic right to be free from persecution regardless of race, sex, religion or personal beliefs is to hold true it must hold true for all people in all circumstances and if you don't believe that you must be willing to accept persecution for yourself. You must be willing to be fired from a job for who you are, or to be denied anything for who you are.
That is absurd. There are limits to those freedoms and they end where other people's rights begin. No one is dragging her out of her bedroom to be punished, the people who are throwing the party set for the circumstances and they are being applied equally to everyone. No one is saying she can't be a lesbian, they are saying she may not bring a same sex date and she must adhere to the dress code. The people throwing and hosting the party have every right to do so. You speak about freedom from persecution, but that is exactly what legal recognition of same sex novelty institutions will violate. People will be persecuted by being forced to give recognition and support things that violate their beliefs.
As for your retarded final assertion, you obviously seem to think I would have a problem with that. Setting aside the fact that I am a member of the most-persecuted religion in the history of my country, which once had a national-level party organized in opposition to it, where only three adherents have ever been nominated from President and in the first two incidents, their religion was made a major issue of the campaign. I would have no problem being fired from a job for my beliefs as long as that was the universal position. I would have no problem with employers being allowed to fire employees for their beliefs, if not for the fact that a great many people have already made an issue of it. That is the only reason I would protest. I have nothing against employers doing what they want with their money...as long as that principle is applied evenhandedly.
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Mississippi High School cancels Prom after Lesbian Student Wanted to Bring a Girl as Her Date
- 11/03/2010 11:56:10 PM
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Seriously, wtf is wrong with the US? *NM*
- 12/03/2010 12:08:32 AM
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This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage.
- 12/03/2010 12:50:12 AM
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Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with.
- 12/03/2010 02:03:32 AM
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Re: Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with.
- 12/03/2010 10:12:04 PM
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Ummmm.... no.
- 12/03/2010 11:02:50 PM
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What???
- 12/03/2010 02:53:13 AM
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Actually...
- 12/03/2010 04:56:03 AM
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Oh, it is definitely self-defense.
- 12/03/2010 05:52:50 AM
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That analogy is not apt.
- 12/03/2010 06:10:27 AM
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Er...
- 12/03/2010 06:45:05 AM
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I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt.
- 12/03/2010 01:39:19 PM
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- 12/03/2010 02:05:54 PM
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I think you mean "I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt."
- 12/03/2010 02:45:23 PM
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That's right, I forgot to add that.
- 12/03/2010 03:23:25 PM
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It's a rather key piece of any attempted analogy, wouldn't you say?
- 12/03/2010 03:45:15 PM
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Re: That analogy is not apt.
- 12/03/2010 02:06:51 PM
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It's not that I'm surprised they disagree. It's that they're Wrong.
- 12/03/2010 06:39:30 AM
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Re: This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage.
- 12/03/2010 02:31:06 PM
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Why don't you show me where I said marriage is holy OR made a religious argument, you imbecile?
- 12/03/2010 10:32:42 PM
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actually, i thought i read that it was because she wanted to wear a tux instead of a dress
- 12/03/2010 02:46:00 AM
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Kind of a different can of worms then
- 12/03/2010 03:20:35 AM
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What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over.
- 14/03/2010 01:24:47 AM
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Hmm. Apparently it is legal to discriminate upon the basis of gender. Imagine that.
- 14/03/2010 02:45:51 AM
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It kind of makes sense, given the highly arbitrary and stereotypical nature of gender.
- 14/03/2010 03:35:44 AM
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Re: What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over.
- 15/03/2010 02:01:00 AM
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It is a great case of Selective Outrage, IMHO
- 12/03/2010 03:10:01 AM
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Maybe.
- 12/03/2010 06:34:42 AM
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"ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters"
- 12/03/2010 12:31:14 PM
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As is often the case, there seems to be a fair amount of assumption going on here.
- 12/03/2010 02:22:48 PM
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Just giving the benefit of the doubt...
- 12/03/2010 02:57:23 PM
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Re: "Pursuing their ideology"
- 12/03/2010 07:23:54 PM
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Re: "Pursuing their ideology"
- 12/03/2010 08:17:25 PM
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That wasn't the impression I was under
- 12/03/2010 11:23:08 PM
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Re: That wasn't the impression I was under
- 13/03/2010 12:09:08 AM
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Pshhh there's a difference between "wear SOME clothes" and "wear a tux"
- 15/03/2010 01:40:37 AM
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For the record...
- 12/03/2010 06:48:25 AM
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Re: For the record...
- 12/03/2010 01:04:33 PM
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Re: For the record...
- 12/03/2010 07:08:06 PM
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Re: For the record...
- 12/03/2010 08:08:42 PM
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No no, I know how you feel. I'm just disinclined to have sympathy for the school.
- 12/03/2010 11:28:35 PM
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Alternatively, I have little sympathy for the school, I just don't have much for her either
- 12/03/2010 11:56:08 PM
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- 12/03/2010 11:56:08 PM
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Don't you think you're sensationalizing this just a bit?
- 12/03/2010 05:42:21 AM
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Regardless of "rights" invovled, I don't see why she shouldn't be able to go as she pleases.
- 12/03/2010 05:25:31 PM
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When I was in high school, my girlfriend and I formulated a petition so we'd be able to attend
- 12/03/2010 07:55:33 PM
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Another thing I think people should remember -
- 12/03/2010 07:59:43 PM
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One point though
- 12/03/2010 08:40:32 PM
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Re: One point though
- 12/03/2010 08:46:30 PM
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My point was that it was a hollow reassurance
- 12/03/2010 09:35:46 PM
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yah, but honestly, is a tux really going to upset anyone that much?
- 13/03/2010 04:50:08 PM
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Just because it wouldn't bother you doesn't mean it won't bother anyone else
- 13/03/2010 06:38:03 PM
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It does
- 13/03/2010 07:35:39 PM
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Re: It does
- 13/03/2010 07:48:35 PM
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I typically agree with you
- 13/03/2010 09:19:27 PM
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Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory
- 13/03/2010 10:17:27 PM
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Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory
- 15/03/2010 01:49:34 AM
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Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory
- 15/03/2010 02:44:17 AM
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He wasn't neccessarily advocating it. He was translating what they were doing into something that
- 16/03/2010 01:37:59 AM
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I'd argue that that kind of hypocrisy is invaluable in today's world, actually.
- 16/03/2010 01:46:16 AM
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Re: It does
- 13/03/2010 08:18:03 PM
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Re: It does
- 13/03/2010 09:30:21 PM
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Re: It does
- 13/03/2010 10:11:21 PM
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Damn. Poor liberals, all revved up with nothing to fight for. *NM*
- 12/03/2010 10:16:12 PM
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So... they were ready to fight something bad, and nothing bad happened
- 12/03/2010 11:30:02 PM
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