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Re: It does ßelals Girl Send a noteboard - 13/03/2010 08:18:03 PM
Cross-dressing makes many people uncomfortable and plenty of people don't think it should be done in public and especially not at a school sanctioned event. Obviously you are not one of them, but that doesn't make your perspective the majority's. There's no way to know that the majority of people attending wouldn't care unless you took a poll.

But is it really cross-dressing? It's an unfortunate issue for a male who might want to wear a skirt (because it isn't balanced), but girls wear pants all the time. It's not like she's asking to wear something indecent.


We're not talking about pants though, we're talking about a tuxedo. I know that girls tend to have looser definitions of what clothing is gender appropriate, but the rules for even their clothing are more restrictive in formal settings and tuxedos especially are still viewed as male attire. Plus, when we have a situation of a lesbian wanting to wear one and take her dress-wearing female date to the prom, the possibility that it is indeed cross dressing becomes much stronger than the possibility that I'm cross dressing because I'm wearing jeans right now rather than a skirt.

Plus, I agree with Issac. Dress codes exists for a reason. Make an exception in this case, and what else will you be forced to make an exception for? Men in skirts? People in causal attire? Tube tops? Where do you draw the line?
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Mississippi High School cancels Prom after Lesbian Student Wanted to Bring a Girl as Her Date Aisha - 11/03/2010 11:56:10 PM 1680 Views
Seriously, wtf is wrong with the US? *NM* Tim - 12/03/2010 12:08:32 AM 272 Views
Not ALL of the US. There were same-sex couples at my prom. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 12/03/2010 12:26:24 AM 305 Views
Yeah, don't worry, I know it's not like that everywhere. Tim - 12/03/2010 09:15:43 AM 632 Views
This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage. Cannoli - 12/03/2010 12:50:12 AM 875 Views
Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with. heartbreak - 12/03/2010 02:03:32 AM 703 Views
Re: Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with. Cannoli - 12/03/2010 10:12:04 PM 712 Views
Ummmm.... no. Napoleon62 - 12/03/2010 11:02:50 PM 717 Views
i totally agree 100% with what you're saying moondog - 12/03/2010 02:33:55 AM 832 Views
What??? Dannymac - 12/03/2010 02:53:13 AM 780 Views
Actually... Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 04:56:03 AM 793 Views
Oh, it is definitely self-defense. Dannymac - 12/03/2010 05:52:50 AM 717 Views
That analogy is not apt. Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 06:10:27 AM 768 Views
Er... beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 06:45:05 AM 654 Views
I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt. Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 01:39:19 PM 716 Views
... Sareitha Sedai - 12/03/2010 02:05:54 PM 642 Views
I think you mean "I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt." snoopcester - 12/03/2010 02:45:23 PM 650 Views
That's right, I forgot to add that. Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 03:23:25 PM 705 Views
It's a rather key piece of any attempted analogy, wouldn't you say? Sareitha Sedai - 12/03/2010 03:45:15 PM 599 Views
Again, you're right. Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 03:59:13 PM 582 Views
Yup. Sareitha Sedai - 12/03/2010 04:02:26 PM 687 Views
Not really. Her point is that they should both be illegal. beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:01:47 PM 614 Views
Re: That analogy is not apt. Macharius - 12/03/2010 02:06:51 PM 660 Views
And when the school refused to change it's policy... Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 03:25:03 PM 614 Views
Absurd. Macharius - 12/03/2010 08:27:19 PM 682 Views
The rules were unjust. Dannymac - 13/03/2010 05:09:59 AM 718 Views
Wow, talk about proving my point! Cannoli - 12/03/2010 11:04:34 PM 822 Views
So hang on. Dannymac - 13/03/2010 05:04:58 AM 700 Views
It's not that I'm surprised they disagree. It's that they're Wrong. beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 06:39:30 AM 688 Views
Re: This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage. Macharius - 12/03/2010 02:31:06 PM 732 Views
Why don't you show me where I said marriage is holy OR made a religious argument, you imbecile? Cannoli - 12/03/2010 10:32:42 PM 698 Views
actually, i thought i read that it was because she wanted to wear a tux instead of a dress moondog - 12/03/2010 02:46:00 AM 726 Views
Kind of a different can of worms then Isaac - 12/03/2010 03:20:35 AM 662 Views
What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over. Tashmere - 14/03/2010 01:24:47 AM 661 Views
Hmm. Apparently it is legal to discriminate upon the basis of gender. Imagine that. Tashmere - 14/03/2010 02:45:51 AM 639 Views
It kind of makes sense, given the highly arbitrary and stereotypical nature of gender. Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 03:35:44 AM 570 Views
Re: What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over. Isaac - 15/03/2010 02:01:00 AM 690 Views
I would love to argue with you Tashmere - 15/03/2010 11:03:48 AM 584 Views
It is a great case of Selective Outrage, IMHO Isaac - 12/03/2010 03:10:01 AM 737 Views
Maybe. Ghavrel - 12/03/2010 06:34:42 AM 733 Views
"ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" Isaac - 12/03/2010 12:31:14 PM 661 Views
Re: "ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" Macharius - 12/03/2010 01:53:39 PM 679 Views
Re: "ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" Isaac - 12/03/2010 03:04:43 PM 639 Views
As is often the case, there seems to be a fair amount of assumption going on here. Legolas - 12/03/2010 02:22:48 PM 632 Views
Just giving the benefit of the doubt... Isaac - 12/03/2010 02:57:23 PM 693 Views
Re: "Pursuing their ideology" beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:23:54 PM 664 Views
Re: "Pursuing their ideology" Isaac - 12/03/2010 08:17:25 PM 663 Views
That wasn't the impression I was under beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 11:23:08 PM 558 Views
Re: That wasn't the impression I was under Isaac - 13/03/2010 12:09:08 AM 706 Views
Pshhh there's a difference between "wear SOME clothes" and "wear a tux" beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 01:40:37 AM 599 Views
Your comments are inconsistent Isaac - 15/03/2010 02:09:43 AM 653 Views
I think you're optimistic about what her chances would've been beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:13:38 PM 665 Views
For the record... beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 06:48:25 AM 646 Views
Re: For the record... Isaac - 12/03/2010 01:04:33 PM 685 Views
Re: For the record... beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:08:06 PM 709 Views
Re: For the record... Isaac - 12/03/2010 08:08:42 PM 686 Views
No no, I know how you feel. I'm just disinclined to have sympathy for the school. beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 11:28:35 PM 561 Views
Alternatively, I have little sympathy for the school, I just don't have much for her either Isaac - 12/03/2010 11:56:08 PM 674 Views
Don't you think you're sensationalizing this just a bit? Aemon - 12/03/2010 05:42:21 AM 659 Views
Actually it is that reductionist Roland00 - 12/03/2010 01:46:23 PM 654 Views
Re: Actually it is that reductionist beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:25:41 PM 731 Views
I have issues with both sides, I think snoopcester - 12/03/2010 02:44:06 PM 620 Views
Regardless of "rights" invovled, I don't see why she shouldn't be able to go as she pleases. LadyLorraine - 12/03/2010 05:25:31 PM 698 Views
When I was in high school, my girlfriend and I formulated a petition so we'd be able to attend Lupine - 12/03/2010 07:55:33 PM 777 Views
Another thing I think people should remember - Lupine - 12/03/2010 07:59:43 PM 773 Views
One point though ßelals Girl - 12/03/2010 08:40:32 PM 701 Views
Re: One point though Lupine - 12/03/2010 08:46:30 PM 760 Views
My point was that it was a hollow reassurance ßelals Girl - 12/03/2010 09:35:46 PM 586 Views
yah, but honestly, is a tux really going to upset anyone that much? LadyLorraine - 13/03/2010 04:50:08 PM 558 Views
Just because it wouldn't bother you doesn't mean it won't bother anyone else ßelals Girl - 13/03/2010 06:38:03 PM 624 Views
It does nossy - 13/03/2010 07:35:39 PM 604 Views
Re: It does Isaac - 13/03/2010 07:48:35 PM 562 Views
I typically agree with you nossy - 13/03/2010 09:19:27 PM 660 Views
Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory Isaac - 13/03/2010 10:17:27 PM 600 Views
yah, but at this point, how much of it is the girl? LadyLorraine - 13/03/2010 10:24:57 PM 564 Views
Is she a child or an adult? IIRC she's 18 Isaac - 13/03/2010 11:33:39 PM 621 Views
No, it should not nossy - 14/03/2010 12:33:56 AM 826 Views
Re: No, it should not Isaac - 14/03/2010 01:16:33 AM 727 Views
I understood that. You explained it well. *NM* Tashmere - 14/03/2010 03:28:10 AM 281 Views
Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 01:49:34 AM 663 Views
Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory Isaac - 15/03/2010 02:44:17 AM 541 Views
This is definitely true beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 04:27:43 AM 696 Views
Re: This is definitely true Isaac - 15/03/2010 05:18:11 AM 937 Views
He wasn't neccessarily advocating it. He was translating what they were doing into something that Tashmere - 16/03/2010 01:37:59 AM 632 Views
I'd argue that that kind of hypocrisy is invaluable in today's world, actually. Legolas - 16/03/2010 01:46:16 AM 603 Views
Re: It does ßelals Girl - 13/03/2010 08:18:03 PM 626 Views
Re: It does nossy - 13/03/2010 09:30:21 PM 558 Views
Re: It does ßelals Girl - 13/03/2010 10:11:21 PM 751 Views
Re: It does nossy - 14/03/2010 12:11:11 AM 659 Views
Re: It does ßelals Girl - 14/03/2010 03:42:06 AM 702 Views
Re: It does Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 12:47:47 AM 707 Views
Re: It does ßelals Girl - 14/03/2010 04:09:18 AM 673 Views
You make good points. *NM* Legolas - 15/03/2010 08:08:37 PM 262 Views
Ah, yes, "the rules." beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 01:47:31 AM 591 Views
Read my replies to Nossy and Ghavrel ßelals Girl - 15/03/2010 05:01:29 AM 621 Views
Slippery slope arguments are stupid. Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 12:43:00 AM 547 Views
So is likening everythng back to the Civil Rights Movement ßelals Girl - 14/03/2010 04:17:54 AM 704 Views
"Dress codes exists for a reason?" beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 01:43:36 AM 611 Views
They do ßelals Girl - 15/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 721 Views
Damn. Poor liberals, all revved up with nothing to fight for. *NM* Cannoli - 12/03/2010 10:16:12 PM 435 Views
So... they were ready to fight something bad, and nothing bad happened beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 11:30:02 PM 550 Views
Teenaged lesbians Angel Barchild - 15/03/2010 06:55:12 AM 660 Views
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