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See above. Process and procedures to change rules exist for a reason as well.;) I don't care much about the tuxedo/cross-dressing argument, but I do care that the school claimed that canceling the prom would be less disruptive to education than allowing a same-sex couple to attend together. If they want the rules, they should stand up for the rules on their own merits. If they are good rules, they will be easily supportable (as some of the points you listed above), but if they don't stand up well when they come up against real discussion, well then...


No, it would be less disruptive than dealing with a court battle. Either way they stood up for the rules. This way was merely cheaper.

Maybe the prom isn't important enough for them to have to go through the hassle and costs of a court battle in order to host it by their own rules. You seem to think there are only two options...give in to strong-arming and discard the rules to avoid court battles or fight tooth and nail. Neither is something the school wanted to do. They took the third option of getting rid of the whole headache. Not pleasant for those caught in the crossfire, but certainly understandable from their point of view.

Instead, it was a cop out decision, and puts immense weight onto a teenager's shoulders. Good thing she's almost ready to graduate- some of those kids would make her life hell.


It wasn't necessarily a cop-out, it was apparently the best option they had, given the situation, and they took it. Do you think they have endless resources for court battles just lying around? If not, do you think they should have to just give in whenever someone decided to use the courts to force them to change policies?

As for her, she doesn't get much sympathy from me. She tried to use the courts to change things to her specifications, the school pushed back, and now the prom is canceled. She ruined it for everybody because she couldn't have her way. No, it wasn't intentional, but it happened because she didn't think the potential consequences of her crusade through before embarking on it. While I can see the students being angry with the school, I can also understand them being angry with her. Maybe being in the hotseat with her classmates will get her to think things through next time. It's always good to think about the people who could get caught in the crossfire before embarking on any crusade. She didn't, and those people are now angry with her. Life lesson.
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Mississippi High School cancels Prom after Lesbian Student Wanted to Bring a Girl as Her Date - 11/03/2010 11:56:10 PM 1802 Views
Seriously, wtf is wrong with the US? *NM* - 12/03/2010 12:08:32 AM 290 Views
Not ALL of the US. There were same-sex couples at my prom. *NM* - 12/03/2010 12:26:24 AM 324 Views
Yeah, don't worry, I know it's not like that everywhere. - 12/03/2010 09:15:43 AM 681 Views
This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage. - 12/03/2010 12:50:12 AM 924 Views
Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with. - 12/03/2010 02:03:32 AM 756 Views
Re: Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with. - 12/03/2010 10:12:04 PM 757 Views
Ummmm.... no. - 12/03/2010 11:02:50 PM 766 Views
i totally agree 100% with what you're saying - 12/03/2010 02:33:55 AM 876 Views
What??? - 12/03/2010 02:53:13 AM 827 Views
Actually... - 12/03/2010 04:56:03 AM 846 Views
Oh, it is definitely self-defense. - 12/03/2010 05:52:50 AM 768 Views
That analogy is not apt. - 12/03/2010 06:10:27 AM 822 Views
Er... - 12/03/2010 06:45:05 AM 701 Views
I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt. - 12/03/2010 01:39:19 PM 769 Views
... - 12/03/2010 02:05:54 PM 689 Views
I think you mean "I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt." - 12/03/2010 02:45:23 PM 703 Views
That's right, I forgot to add that. - 12/03/2010 03:23:25 PM 754 Views
It's a rather key piece of any attempted analogy, wouldn't you say? - 12/03/2010 03:45:15 PM 646 Views
Again, you're right. - 12/03/2010 03:59:13 PM 633 Views
Yup. - 12/03/2010 04:02:26 PM 735 Views
Not really. Her point is that they should both be illegal. - 12/03/2010 07:01:47 PM 662 Views
Re: That analogy is not apt. - 12/03/2010 02:06:51 PM 708 Views
And when the school refused to change it's policy... - 12/03/2010 03:25:03 PM 660 Views
Absurd. - 12/03/2010 08:27:19 PM 732 Views
The rules were unjust. - 13/03/2010 05:09:59 AM 769 Views
Wow, talk about proving my point! - 12/03/2010 11:04:34 PM 869 Views
So hang on. - 13/03/2010 05:04:58 AM 747 Views
It's not that I'm surprised they disagree. It's that they're Wrong. - 12/03/2010 06:39:30 AM 738 Views
It is a great case of Selective Outrage, IMHO - 12/03/2010 03:10:01 AM 778 Views
Maybe. - 12/03/2010 06:34:42 AM 780 Views
"ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" - 12/03/2010 12:31:14 PM 703 Views
Re: "ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" - 12/03/2010 01:53:39 PM 726 Views
Re: "ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" - 12/03/2010 03:04:43 PM 687 Views
As is often the case, there seems to be a fair amount of assumption going on here. - 12/03/2010 02:22:48 PM 683 Views
Just giving the benefit of the doubt... - 12/03/2010 02:57:23 PM 744 Views
Re: "Pursuing their ideology" - 12/03/2010 07:23:54 PM 717 Views
Re: "Pursuing their ideology" - 12/03/2010 08:17:25 PM 711 Views
That wasn't the impression I was under - 12/03/2010 11:23:08 PM 605 Views
Re: That wasn't the impression I was under - 13/03/2010 12:09:08 AM 759 Views
Pshhh there's a difference between "wear SOME clothes" and "wear a tux" - 15/03/2010 01:40:37 AM 649 Views
Your comments are inconsistent - 15/03/2010 02:09:43 AM 703 Views
I think you're optimistic about what her chances would've been - 12/03/2010 07:13:38 PM 715 Views
For the record... - 12/03/2010 06:48:25 AM 695 Views
Re: For the record... - 12/03/2010 01:04:33 PM 743 Views
Re: For the record... - 12/03/2010 07:08:06 PM 758 Views
Re: For the record... - 12/03/2010 08:08:42 PM 731 Views
Don't you think you're sensationalizing this just a bit? - 12/03/2010 05:42:21 AM 704 Views
Actually it is that reductionist - 12/03/2010 01:46:23 PM 705 Views
Re: Actually it is that reductionist - 12/03/2010 07:25:41 PM 780 Views
I have issues with both sides, I think - 12/03/2010 02:44:06 PM 669 Views
When I was in high school, my girlfriend and I formulated a petition so we'd be able to attend - 12/03/2010 07:55:33 PM 826 Views
Another thing I think people should remember - - 12/03/2010 07:59:43 PM 824 Views
One point though - 12/03/2010 08:40:32 PM 748 Views
Re: One point though - 12/03/2010 08:46:30 PM 812 Views
My point was that it was a hollow reassurance - 12/03/2010 09:35:46 PM 635 Views
yah, but honestly, is a tux really going to upset anyone that much? - 13/03/2010 04:50:08 PM 610 Views
Just because it wouldn't bother you doesn't mean it won't bother anyone else - 13/03/2010 06:38:03 PM 672 Views
It does - 13/03/2010 07:35:39 PM 656 Views
Re: It does - 13/03/2010 07:48:35 PM 608 Views
I typically agree with you - 13/03/2010 09:19:27 PM 713 Views
Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory - 13/03/2010 10:17:27 PM 650 Views
yah, but at this point, how much of it is the girl? - 13/03/2010 10:24:57 PM 610 Views
Is she a child or an adult? IIRC she's 18 - 13/03/2010 11:33:39 PM 667 Views
No, it should not - 14/03/2010 12:33:56 AM 871 Views
Re: No, it should not - 14/03/2010 01:16:33 AM 785 Views
I understood that. You explained it well. *NM* - 14/03/2010 03:28:10 AM 306 Views
Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory - 15/03/2010 01:49:34 AM 711 Views
Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory - 15/03/2010 02:44:17 AM 588 Views
This is definitely true - 15/03/2010 04:27:43 AM 741 Views
Re: This is definitely true - 15/03/2010 05:18:11 AM 986 Views
Re: It does - 13/03/2010 08:18:03 PM 685 Views
Re: It does - 13/03/2010 09:30:21 PM 607 Views
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Re: It does - 14/03/2010 04:09:18 AM 721 Views
You make good points. *NM* - 15/03/2010 08:08:37 PM 278 Views
Ah, yes, "the rules." - 15/03/2010 01:47:31 AM 641 Views
Read my replies to Nossy and Ghavrel - 15/03/2010 05:01:29 AM 715 Views
Slippery slope arguments are stupid. - 14/03/2010 12:43:00 AM 592 Views
So is likening everythng back to the Civil Rights Movement - 14/03/2010 04:17:54 AM 754 Views
"Dress codes exists for a reason?" - 15/03/2010 01:43:36 AM 655 Views
They do - 15/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 773 Views
Damn. Poor liberals, all revved up with nothing to fight for. *NM* - 12/03/2010 10:16:12 PM 456 Views
So... they were ready to fight something bad, and nothing bad happened - 12/03/2010 11:30:02 PM 595 Views
Teenaged lesbians - 15/03/2010 06:55:12 AM 706 Views

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