You make good points, but standing up for the rules by ignoring that they might be faulty isn't really fair to the people who may be feeling oppressed by them. It may save them money and time now, but it's highly unlikely that teachers and others responsible for education would have anything to do with the court case. I'm not sure I see how a court case is more disruptive than pissing off a bunch of kids who have likely spent a bunch of money on dresses and the like.
A court case is disruptive for them. The ones who would be fighting and paying for it. In addition, the media circus would likely be disruptive, as would the the loss of funds that would have otherwise gone towards the school. The loss of funds the students would have spent on clothes aren't really an issue. The school wasn't going to benefit from those funds anyway.
I don't necessarily think either, and it doesn't matter what I think anyway-- It's not like the argument is going away because the prom did, because now there are kids fighting to get it back. None of this gives them a quick and easy solution. The headache is not gone simply because they are trying to cancel the dance rather than address the issue. Imo, they should have addressed the issue, rather than pretend it didn't exist. I did not say they should give in, not at all.
And again, they maybe they couldn't afford to not give in and still have the prom. They chose what worked best for them. I'm sure they'll cross the same bridge next year when they come to it.
No, and I did not make that case at all. I said that they should address the issue, and if they cannot make a sufficient case for the way they want to run things (while being a public institution that has to function under our constitution), then maybe there is something wrong there anyway. If the dress code is appropriate, a case can be made that upholds it. If the rule about allowing kids to have same-sex dates is appropriate, a case can be made that upholds that as well. If not, then that's justice.
Once again, that's easy for you to say. You're not the one who has to pay to make that compelling case. Plenty of people with iron tight cases don't fight in court because they can't afford it. They likely weighed the pros and cons and went with what worked best. It's not the outcome most people wanted, but then, those people weren't the ones who had to host the party and pay the court costs.
I clearly have no quarrel with you, but I'm struggling to answer this the way I want. All I'll say to this is that I'm just glad I've never had to feel as though who I was or what I wanted had no place in a "normal" society and that if I stood up for myself, I deserved all the backlash I got.
See, the thing is, just because you agree with someone's particular crusade doesn't mean that they went about it in the best way. And it doesn't make someone exempt from the consequences of embarking on such a crusade. People who practice civil disobedience routinely end up in jail. People who stop traffic to protest have to put up with the jeers and honking of horns by the people whose commutes were disrupted by their actions. And people who end up getting something canceled because they wanted it "their way or the highway," have to deal with the pissed off other people who are now deprived of the event. That's life. She should have thought this out more clearly. Just because she's gay doesn't make her exempt from dealing with her pissed off peers any more than the traffic stopping protesters should be exempt from commuters shouting "F*ck you!" out their windows as they inch past.
When you protest, you take your lumps from the people you hurt. If you consider your cause worthy, then you consider them lumps worth taking. I've been there.
Mississippi High School cancels Prom after Lesbian Student Wanted to Bring a Girl as Her Date
11/03/2010 11:56:10 PM
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Seriously, wtf is wrong with the US? *NM*
12/03/2010 12:08:32 AM
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This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage.
12/03/2010 12:50:12 AM
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Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with.
12/03/2010 02:03:32 AM
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Re: Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with.
12/03/2010 10:12:04 PM
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What???
12/03/2010 02:53:13 AM
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Actually...
12/03/2010 04:56:03 AM
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Oh, it is definitely self-defense.
12/03/2010 05:52:50 AM
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That analogy is not apt.
12/03/2010 06:10:27 AM
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Er...
12/03/2010 06:45:05 AM
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I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt.
12/03/2010 01:39:19 PM
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12/03/2010 02:05:54 PM
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I think you mean "I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt."
12/03/2010 02:45:23 PM
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That's right, I forgot to add that.
12/03/2010 03:23:25 PM
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It's a rather key piece of any attempted analogy, wouldn't you say?
12/03/2010 03:45:15 PM
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Re: That analogy is not apt.
12/03/2010 02:06:51 PM
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It's not that I'm surprised they disagree. It's that they're Wrong.
12/03/2010 06:39:30 AM
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Re: This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage.
12/03/2010 02:31:06 PM
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Why don't you show me where I said marriage is holy OR made a religious argument, you imbecile?
12/03/2010 10:32:42 PM
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actually, i thought i read that it was because she wanted to wear a tux instead of a dress
12/03/2010 02:46:00 AM
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Kind of a different can of worms then
12/03/2010 03:20:35 AM
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What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over.
14/03/2010 01:24:47 AM
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Hmm. Apparently it is legal to discriminate upon the basis of gender. Imagine that.
14/03/2010 02:45:51 AM
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It kind of makes sense, given the highly arbitrary and stereotypical nature of gender.
14/03/2010 03:35:44 AM
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Re: What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over.
15/03/2010 02:01:00 AM
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It is a great case of Selective Outrage, IMHO
12/03/2010 03:10:01 AM
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Maybe.
12/03/2010 06:34:42 AM
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"ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters"
12/03/2010 12:31:14 PM
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As is often the case, there seems to be a fair amount of assumption going on here.
12/03/2010 02:22:48 PM
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Just giving the benefit of the doubt...
12/03/2010 02:57:23 PM
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Re: "Pursuing their ideology"
12/03/2010 07:23:54 PM
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Re: "Pursuing their ideology"
12/03/2010 08:17:25 PM
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That wasn't the impression I was under
12/03/2010 11:23:08 PM
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Re: That wasn't the impression I was under
13/03/2010 12:09:08 AM
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Pshhh there's a difference between "wear SOME clothes" and "wear a tux"
15/03/2010 01:40:37 AM
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For the record...
12/03/2010 06:48:25 AM
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Re: For the record...
12/03/2010 01:04:33 PM
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Re: For the record...
12/03/2010 07:08:06 PM
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Re: For the record...
12/03/2010 08:08:42 PM
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No no, I know how you feel. I'm just disinclined to have sympathy for the school.
12/03/2010 11:28:35 PM
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Alternatively, I have little sympathy for the school, I just don't have much for her either
12/03/2010 11:56:08 PM
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Don't you think you're sensationalizing this just a bit?
12/03/2010 05:42:21 AM
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Regardless of "rights" invovled, I don't see why she shouldn't be able to go as she pleases.
12/03/2010 05:25:31 PM
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When I was in high school, my girlfriend and I formulated a petition so we'd be able to attend
12/03/2010 07:55:33 PM
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Another thing I think people should remember -
12/03/2010 07:59:43 PM
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One point though
12/03/2010 08:40:32 PM
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Re: One point though
12/03/2010 08:46:30 PM
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My point was that it was a hollow reassurance
12/03/2010 09:35:46 PM
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yah, but honestly, is a tux really going to upset anyone that much?
13/03/2010 04:50:08 PM
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Just because it wouldn't bother you doesn't mean it won't bother anyone else
13/03/2010 06:38:03 PM
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It does
13/03/2010 07:35:39 PM
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Re: It does
13/03/2010 07:48:35 PM
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I typically agree with you
13/03/2010 09:19:27 PM
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Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory
13/03/2010 10:17:27 PM
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Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory
15/03/2010 01:49:34 AM
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Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory
15/03/2010 02:44:17 AM
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He wasn't neccessarily advocating it. He was translating what they were doing into something that
16/03/2010 01:37:59 AM
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I'd argue that that kind of hypocrisy is invaluable in today's world, actually.
16/03/2010 01:46:16 AM
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Re: It does
13/03/2010 08:18:03 PM
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Re: It does
13/03/2010 09:30:21 PM
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Re: It does
13/03/2010 10:11:21 PM
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Damn. Poor liberals, all revved up with nothing to fight for. *NM*
12/03/2010 10:16:12 PM
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So... they were ready to fight something bad, and nothing bad happened
12/03/2010 11:30:02 PM
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