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Re: What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over. Isaac Send a noteboard - 15/03/2010 02:01:00 AM

Legally speaking schools basically have leeway to enforce any dress code so long as they apply it evenly and can demonstrate they are not deliberately being selective in application. I guess a case could be made that if they had a dress code stipulating suits for males and dresses/skirts for females they'd have a pretty solid case.


Isn't that discriminating on the basis of gender? Girls have to wear dresses and boys have to wear tuxedos? I have a problem with that.

There is nothing even about that code. It sounds blatantly selective in application to me.


IIRC, girls skirts boys pants is a perfectly legal dress code, my personal opinion on the matter not withstanding it's definitely legal for a school to have one, or by now the ACLU would have sued the pants off a number of schools, no pun intended, and I believe even private schools would be subject to that sort of case were it not legal. People have a lot of incorrect impression about laws on this stuff anyway. You can in many cases discriminate entirely legally on gender, men don't have to wear shirts on their front lawn, women do. Women don't have to register for the draft, men do, etc.
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Re: Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with. Cannoli - 12/03/2010 10:12:04 PM 781 Views
Ummmm.... no. Napoleon62 - 12/03/2010 11:02:50 PM 793 Views
i totally agree 100% with what you're saying moondog - 12/03/2010 02:33:55 AM 899 Views
What??? Dannymac - 12/03/2010 02:53:13 AM 860 Views
Actually... Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 04:56:03 AM 869 Views
Oh, it is definitely self-defense. Dannymac - 12/03/2010 05:52:50 AM 786 Views
That analogy is not apt. Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 06:10:27 AM 848 Views
Er... beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 06:45:05 AM 722 Views
I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt. Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 01:39:19 PM 789 Views
... Sareitha Sedai - 12/03/2010 02:05:54 PM 718 Views
I think you mean "I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt." snoopcester - 12/03/2010 02:45:23 PM 730 Views
That's right, I forgot to add that. Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 03:23:25 PM 780 Views
It's a rather key piece of any attempted analogy, wouldn't you say? Sareitha Sedai - 12/03/2010 03:45:15 PM 678 Views
Again, you're right. Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 03:59:13 PM 654 Views
Yup. Sareitha Sedai - 12/03/2010 04:02:26 PM 755 Views
Not really. Her point is that they should both be illegal. beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:01:47 PM 688 Views
Re: That analogy is not apt. Macharius - 12/03/2010 02:06:51 PM 737 Views
And when the school refused to change it's policy... Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 03:25:03 PM 681 Views
Absurd. Macharius - 12/03/2010 08:27:19 PM 755 Views
The rules were unjust. Dannymac - 13/03/2010 05:09:59 AM 794 Views
Wow, talk about proving my point! Cannoli - 12/03/2010 11:04:34 PM 895 Views
So hang on. Dannymac - 13/03/2010 05:04:58 AM 773 Views
It's not that I'm surprised they disagree. It's that they're Wrong. beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 06:39:30 AM 758 Views
Re: This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage. Macharius - 12/03/2010 02:31:06 PM 801 Views
Why don't you show me where I said marriage is holy OR made a religious argument, you imbecile? Cannoli - 12/03/2010 10:32:42 PM 771 Views
actually, i thought i read that it was because she wanted to wear a tux instead of a dress moondog - 12/03/2010 02:46:00 AM 798 Views
Kind of a different can of worms then Isaac - 12/03/2010 03:20:35 AM 747 Views
What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over. Tashmere - 14/03/2010 01:24:47 AM 730 Views
Hmm. Apparently it is legal to discriminate upon the basis of gender. Imagine that. Tashmere - 14/03/2010 02:45:51 AM 716 Views
It kind of makes sense, given the highly arbitrary and stereotypical nature of gender. Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 03:35:44 AM 647 Views
Re: What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over. Isaac - 15/03/2010 02:01:00 AM 766 Views
I would love to argue with you Tashmere - 15/03/2010 11:03:48 AM 657 Views
It is a great case of Selective Outrage, IMHO Isaac - 12/03/2010 03:10:01 AM 805 Views
Maybe. Ghavrel - 12/03/2010 06:34:42 AM 802 Views
"ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" Isaac - 12/03/2010 12:31:14 PM 722 Views
Re: "ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" Macharius - 12/03/2010 01:53:39 PM 752 Views
Re: "ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" Isaac - 12/03/2010 03:04:43 PM 709 Views
As is often the case, there seems to be a fair amount of assumption going on here. Legolas - 12/03/2010 02:22:48 PM 709 Views
Just giving the benefit of the doubt... Isaac - 12/03/2010 02:57:23 PM 771 Views
Re: "Pursuing their ideology" beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:23:54 PM 750 Views
Re: "Pursuing their ideology" Isaac - 12/03/2010 08:17:25 PM 739 Views
That wasn't the impression I was under beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 11:23:08 PM 626 Views
Re: That wasn't the impression I was under Isaac - 13/03/2010 12:09:08 AM 785 Views
Pshhh there's a difference between "wear SOME clothes" and "wear a tux" beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 01:40:37 AM 670 Views
Your comments are inconsistent Isaac - 15/03/2010 02:09:43 AM 730 Views
I think you're optimistic about what her chances would've been beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:13:38 PM 740 Views
For the record... beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 06:48:25 AM 729 Views
Re: For the record... Isaac - 12/03/2010 01:04:33 PM 769 Views
Re: For the record... beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:08:06 PM 790 Views
Re: For the record... Isaac - 12/03/2010 08:08:42 PM 759 Views
No no, I know how you feel. I'm just disinclined to have sympathy for the school. beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 11:28:35 PM 630 Views
Alternatively, I have little sympathy for the school, I just don't have much for her either Isaac - 12/03/2010 11:56:08 PM 744 Views
Don't you think you're sensationalizing this just a bit? Aemon - 12/03/2010 05:42:21 AM 728 Views
Actually it is that reductionist Roland00 - 12/03/2010 01:46:23 PM 730 Views
Re: Actually it is that reductionist beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:25:41 PM 806 Views
I have issues with both sides, I think snoopcester - 12/03/2010 02:44:06 PM 693 Views
Regardless of "rights" invovled, I don't see why she shouldn't be able to go as she pleases. LadyLorraine - 12/03/2010 05:25:31 PM 776 Views
When I was in high school, my girlfriend and I formulated a petition so we'd be able to attend Lupine - 12/03/2010 07:55:33 PM 849 Views
Another thing I think people should remember - Lupine - 12/03/2010 07:59:43 PM 847 Views
One point though ßelals Girl - 12/03/2010 08:40:32 PM 770 Views
Re: One point though Lupine - 12/03/2010 08:46:30 PM 830 Views
My point was that it was a hollow reassurance ßelals Girl - 12/03/2010 09:35:46 PM 662 Views
yah, but honestly, is a tux really going to upset anyone that much? LadyLorraine - 13/03/2010 04:50:08 PM 631 Views
Just because it wouldn't bother you doesn't mean it won't bother anyone else ßelals Girl - 13/03/2010 06:38:03 PM 697 Views
It does nossy - 13/03/2010 07:35:39 PM 682 Views
Re: It does Isaac - 13/03/2010 07:48:35 PM 628 Views
I typically agree with you nossy - 13/03/2010 09:19:27 PM 733 Views
Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory Isaac - 13/03/2010 10:17:27 PM 676 Views
yah, but at this point, how much of it is the girl? LadyLorraine - 13/03/2010 10:24:57 PM 642 Views
Is she a child or an adult? IIRC she's 18 Isaac - 13/03/2010 11:33:39 PM 697 Views
No, it should not nossy - 14/03/2010 12:33:56 AM 899 Views
Re: No, it should not Isaac - 14/03/2010 01:16:33 AM 808 Views
I understood that. You explained it well. *NM* Tashmere - 14/03/2010 03:28:10 AM 317 Views
Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 01:49:34 AM 736 Views
Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory Isaac - 15/03/2010 02:44:17 AM 615 Views
This is definitely true beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 04:27:43 AM 765 Views
Re: This is definitely true Isaac - 15/03/2010 05:18:11 AM 1011 Views
He wasn't neccessarily advocating it. He was translating what they were doing into something that Tashmere - 16/03/2010 01:37:59 AM 696 Views
I'd argue that that kind of hypocrisy is invaluable in today's world, actually. Legolas - 16/03/2010 01:46:16 AM 682 Views
Re: It does ßelals Girl - 13/03/2010 08:18:03 PM 720 Views
Re: It does nossy - 13/03/2010 09:30:21 PM 634 Views
Re: It does ßelals Girl - 13/03/2010 10:11:21 PM 828 Views
Re: It does nossy - 14/03/2010 12:11:11 AM 730 Views
Re: It does ßelals Girl - 14/03/2010 03:42:06 AM 771 Views
Re: It does Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 12:47:47 AM 783 Views
Re: It does ßelals Girl - 14/03/2010 04:09:18 AM 755 Views
You make good points. *NM* Legolas - 15/03/2010 08:08:37 PM 287 Views
Ah, yes, "the rules." beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 01:47:31 AM 663 Views
Read my replies to Nossy and Ghavrel ßelals Girl - 15/03/2010 05:01:29 AM 739 Views
Slippery slope arguments are stupid. Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 12:43:00 AM 622 Views
So is likening everythng back to the Civil Rights Movement ßelals Girl - 14/03/2010 04:17:54 AM 774 Views
"Dress codes exists for a reason?" beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 01:43:36 AM 679 Views
They do ßelals Girl - 15/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 794 Views
Damn. Poor liberals, all revved up with nothing to fight for. *NM* Cannoli - 12/03/2010 10:16:12 PM 470 Views
So... they were ready to fight something bad, and nothing bad happened beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 11:30:02 PM 620 Views
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