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Well, the Russian government did not swear oaths as members of the US military or public servants Cannoli Send a noteboard - 14/07/2017 04:58:18 AM

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I'm not sure the implication that actions are justified if they're in pursuit of spreading truth is necessarily quite as appealing as it sounds at first blush.

And regardless of the morality or legality of people stealing and/or disseminating the information, it does not change the right of people to make up their minds based on such information, nor invalidate such choices. "Fruit of the poisoned tree" applies only to the inside of courtroom, and is in itself a rather ridiculous concept that is only tolerated in order to strip the motivation for the government & law enforcement to violate the rights of citizens to privacy. It in no way means that in real life people have an obligation to pretend illicitly obtained and disseminated facts are not true or that they never heard them.

This was a ridiculous method of obfuscation was similarly attempted by, I believe, Barbara Boxer, concerning the release of e-mails revealing the duplicity of certain parties in the climate change debate.

Meanwhile, in typical Democrat hypocrisy, they have absolutely no qualms about having used similarly illicit information during the Nixon administration, and consider Daniel Ellsberg and Mark Felt heroes of a sort.

Cannoli
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The truly amusing thing about all this. - 13/07/2017 02:32:33 PM 1153 Views
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The media lost the respect they commanded back then. - 13/07/2017 10:42:27 PM 464 Views
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I don't need a defense.... - 14/07/2017 08:31:12 PM 477 Views
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dirt on an opponent is equivilent to a monetary disbursment? *NM* - 15/07/2017 03:43:28 AM 375 Views
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The New York Times still has a fold? - 14/07/2017 02:28:48 PM 507 Views
What are your opinions on Manning and Snowden? I honestly don't remember. - 14/07/2017 03:42:09 AM 509 Views
Well, the Russian government did not swear oaths as members of the US military or public servants - 14/07/2017 04:58:18 AM 600 Views
Extend the query to Wikileaks publishing the documents, then. - 14/07/2017 10:34:53 AM 582 Views
Are you sure? - 14/07/2017 02:29:51 PM 436 Views
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You've misunderstood me - 14/07/2017 06:22:21 PM 580 Views
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The other amusing thing is the GOP voters' sudden love for Russia. - 14/07/2017 06:43:12 PM 606 Views
There was a great article in the NYT about that - 14/07/2017 08:29:29 PM 672 Views
There's nothing "sudden" about it for me. *NM* - 14/07/2017 08:49:38 PM 326 Views
I know. I was going to add a comment about how you must love that. - 14/07/2017 11:08:41 PM 1178 Views
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