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The Democrats definitely won in regards to changing the conversation. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 14/07/2017 06:06:58 PM

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So, everyone left, right, or center, has their own idea about what involvement Russia may or may not have had in our 2016 elections and possibly with the Trump campaign. All of that is murky and in much dispute.

You know what is generally not in dispute? The fact that all the "damage" done was to release to the public truthful information about how the Democrats operated during the primaries and other unsavory little tidbits. And, if one is to believe recent news reports, possibly trying to inject truthful elements about Hillary's possibly criminal behavior.

So, regardless of any other aspect to this, the core of it is this: all this drama is, at its heart, about the American voters getting additional truthful information during the campaign. That amuses me greatly, from weary watcher of all the political chatter.

"THEY POSSIBLY, MAYBE, COLLUDED WITH THE RUSSIANS TO TELL THE TRUTH!!!"

Quelle horreur.


It would also be nice for many who are outraged by Russia's involvement in our electoral process to take a closer look at how often WE have been involved in other countries's elections.

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The truly amusing thing about all this. - 13/07/2017 02:32:33 PM 1122 Views
that's the thing with muddying the waters - 13/07/2017 03:20:24 PM 527 Views
The media lost the respect they commanded back then. - 13/07/2017 10:42:27 PM 430 Views
The other thing I was thinking.... - 13/07/2017 07:05:27 PM 600 Views
We know how they would react because it happened. - 13/07/2017 10:37:43 PM 485 Views
So imprison Clinton and Trump both. Just put Kasich in. I don't mind. - 14/07/2017 03:40:02 AM 518 Views
No thanks. We don't need Mr. Magoo as President. - 14/07/2017 08:46:14 PM 544 Views
And why would we imprison Trump, counselor? - 14/07/2017 08:47:34 PM 493 Views
This is your defense? "Other people would do it too?" *NM* - 14/07/2017 03:36:26 AM 242 Views
I don't need a defense.... - 14/07/2017 08:31:12 PM 443 Views
Actually it is illegal in several ways - 15/07/2017 01:55:02 AM 581 Views
dirt on an opponent is equivilent to a monetary disbursment? *NM* - 15/07/2017 03:43:28 AM 356 Views
I don't have an opinion on whether the law was broken here. - 15/07/2017 05:12:08 AM 608 Views
Yes - 15/07/2017 02:34:53 PM 494 Views
Bah - 15/07/2017 04:56:08 PM 464 Views
I very well could be wrong, but I don't think that I am. - 17/07/2017 04:50:24 PM 500 Views
I'm waiting for Little Marco to send me a subpoena. - 13/07/2017 10:40:25 PM 515 Views
That's a very good point that needs further exploration - 13/07/2017 11:54:56 PM 515 Views
The New York Times still has a fold? - 14/07/2017 02:28:48 PM 474 Views
What are your opinions on Manning and Snowden? I honestly don't remember. - 14/07/2017 03:42:09 AM 474 Views
Well, the Russian government did not swear oaths as members of the US military or public servants - 14/07/2017 04:58:18 AM 560 Views
Extend the query to Wikileaks publishing the documents, then. - 14/07/2017 10:34:53 AM 546 Views
Are you sure? - 14/07/2017 02:29:51 PM 403 Views
That only works if you can claim with a straight face the GOP wouldn't care - 14/07/2017 03:32:43 PM 544 Views
You've misunderstood me - 14/07/2017 06:22:21 PM 541 Views
I don't think I have. - 15/07/2017 02:34:27 AM 479 Views
No I'm not. - 15/07/2017 03:09:04 AM 565 Views
Re: No I'm not. - 15/07/2017 05:07:42 AM 505 Views
Re: No I'm not. - 17/07/2017 02:55:54 PM 543 Views
Re: No I'm not. - 18/07/2017 01:27:06 AM 446 Views
Yes you are. - 18/07/2017 06:40:45 AM 421 Views
You made the right choice, then. *NM* - 18/07/2017 03:37:40 PM 287 Views
It's really the only way I can get into cool threads - 18/07/2017 04:03:05 PM 422 Views
The Democrats definitely won in regards to changing the conversation. - 14/07/2017 06:06:58 PM 557 Views
The other amusing thing is the GOP voters' sudden love for Russia. - 14/07/2017 06:43:12 PM 573 Views
There was a great article in the NYT about that - 14/07/2017 08:29:29 PM 626 Views
There's nothing "sudden" about it for me. *NM* - 14/07/2017 08:49:38 PM 307 Views
I know. I was going to add a comment about how you must love that. - 14/07/2017 11:08:41 PM 1138 Views
I'm considering pitching to go on Fox or something. - 18/07/2017 05:41:56 AM 480 Views
Murray Gell-Mann Amnesia - 18/07/2017 04:10:01 PM 682 Views
Good idea. - 23/07/2017 05:50:33 PM 526 Views
You are the fly in every republican cake - 15/07/2017 01:56:24 AM 550 Views
I really don't understand 99% of your responses - 18/07/2017 06:42:09 AM 573 Views
Yes Tom, Yes Exactly *NM* - 18/07/2017 03:46:22 PM 269 Views
It was and still just the isolationist wing of the party that feels that way - 19/07/2017 01:27:41 PM 504 Views

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