View original postI thought we could, but it appears we cannot. Why did you think I was doing anything else?
Well, we were discussing something else entirely.
View original postHere is where we part ways, I guess. I think the true statement "Everyone lies" exposes the rule "Lying is wrong" as a gross oversimplification. The kind of rule we should stop believing in once we reach a level of maturity that can handle nuance. People lie all the time for the greater good and will continue to do so. Some lies do far more good than they will ever do harm.
Hm. I can accept that for "lying," which covers a broad range of characteristics, but I think we can come up with various actions which virtually everyone does at one point or another and which we think are wrong. I think you're moving toward the universal "if everyone does something, it's justified" here, and I just don't think that's true. Do you think that's the case?
View original postWell, I apologize for upsetting you - that wasn't intended. I really did just want to discuss the principle and it appears you thought I was arguing for a side...?
I'm perpetually grouchy these days, so you don't need to apologize. You didn't do anything wrong.
View original postAs per your original question, I recall being asked on another site whether Snowden was a hero or a traitor and answering that he was probably both.
Fair.
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The truly amusing thing about all this.
13/07/2017 02:32:33 PM
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The other thing I was thinking....
13/07/2017 07:05:27 PM
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We know how they would react because it happened.
13/07/2017 10:37:43 PM
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So imprison Clinton and Trump both. Just put Kasich in. I don't mind.
14/07/2017 03:40:02 AM
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This is your defense? "Other people would do it too?" *NM*
14/07/2017 03:36:26 AM
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To quoque or not to quoque, I think the essential defense is there is NO wrongdoing in such events
14/07/2017 04:45:41 AM
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I don't need a defense....
14/07/2017 08:31:12 PM
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Actually it is illegal in several ways
15/07/2017 01:55:02 AM
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dirt on an opponent is equivilent to a monetary disbursment? *NM*
15/07/2017 03:43:28 AM
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Yes
15/07/2017 02:34:53 PM
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Bah
15/07/2017 04:56:08 PM
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Question Mookie, when did you think this law was enacted and last revised?
16/07/2017 11:46:43 AM
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No clue. I could google, of course, but that would be cheating. *NM*
16/07/2017 03:29:52 PM
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The offered dirty was that the Clintons were taking campaign donations from a foreign national again
18/07/2017 08:08:23 PM
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Well yeah. That happened. But it's not the main point. It's a side-bonus.
13/07/2017 10:22:32 PM
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I'm waiting for Little Marco to send me a subpoena.
13/07/2017 10:40:25 PM
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I think I served you a subpoena once. . . It was a small subpoena. *NM*
14/07/2017 09:02:48 AM
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What are your opinions on Manning and Snowden? I honestly don't remember.
14/07/2017 03:42:09 AM
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Well, the Russian government did not swear oaths as members of the US military or public servants
14/07/2017 04:58:18 AM
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Extend the query to Wikileaks publishing the documents, then.
14/07/2017 10:34:53 AM
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Are you sure?
14/07/2017 02:29:51 PM
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That only works if you can claim with a straight face the GOP wouldn't care
14/07/2017 03:32:43 PM
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You've misunderstood me
14/07/2017 06:22:21 PM
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I don't think I have.
15/07/2017 02:34:27 AM
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No I'm not.
15/07/2017 03:09:04 AM
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Re: No I'm not.
15/07/2017 05:07:42 AM
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Re: No I'm not.
17/07/2017 02:55:54 PM
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The Democrats definitely won in regards to changing the conversation.
14/07/2017 06:06:58 PM
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Pay no attention to that CIA agent behind the voting curtain (in X country)
18/07/2017 06:43:38 AM
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When the media is the cornerstone of your political base it is easy to control the tone
19/07/2017 01:22:51 PM
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The other amusing thing is the GOP voters' sudden love for Russia.
14/07/2017 06:43:12 PM
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There's nothing "sudden" about it for me. *NM*
14/07/2017 08:49:38 PM
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I know. I was going to add a comment about how you must love that.
14/07/2017 11:08:41 PM
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You are the fly in every republican cake
15/07/2017 01:56:24 AM
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It was and still just the isolationist wing of the party that feels that way
19/07/2017 01:27:41 PM
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