This is still completely irrelevant to her later PoV regarding Silviana. You might as well start talking about how to defeat the Dark One, if you want to continue discussing irrelevant points...


No they did not. They lived through a completely different experience where they were given doses of an unknown nature once every hour, which knocked them out completely, and made them unable to channel even after an hour. Egwene's dose knocked her out for a few minutes, and in an hour at the most, she was able to channel.


And Nynaeve did not know much. It took several Borwns to study to drug to realize that you can make a tincture that can interfere with the ability to channel, but not knock you out!


But it doesn't have the same effect all the time. You can say, "forkroot is an herb which knocks channelers out and makes them unable to channel". Which, evidently, is exactly what Nynaeve told Egwene. But, more than that, we didn't know till we heard of the research the Browns had done, which we only learned from Silviana.


But that would be a reason for her to not think of her strength! If you don't know how strong you are, why would you make any statements on how someone else compares to you? You need yourself as a point of reference for such a comparison, and in your version of the events, Egwene has no clue how strong or weak she may have been at that time!


You mean she hadn't tried...

Bullshit! They knew how it would affect her since they used precise doses! In your version of events, Katerine wonders why two of them would be needed to shield Egwene because she knows Egwene will be weakened. You cannot now say she didn't know this and hence used a strong shield! Your whole scenario is full of holes.


You just said she:
doesn't have any idea to what degree her own ability is currently affected.

Are you even aware of what you're writing?


Then she'd have said that! But she makes no mention of her own ability being weakened. You yourself claim she wasn't aware of that. That means that Egwene assumed that since the effect of forkroot, in so far as making her unable to reach the source, was lifted, that meant she could now draw to her fullest ability. So, we need to see her statement in the light of that.


But that is not what she says! She says there is no hope for her to break Silviana's shield because Silviana is far from weak. Absolutely no qualifiers about forkroot or any weakening of her abilities. If you're allowed to now imagine up extra qualifiers for all statements made by characters, I'll do so too, and probably be able to prove that Rand is weaker than Morghase!


Neither the readers nor Egwene knew this at that point. In fact, till Silviana tells us that you can make doses of forkroot that allow you to only channel a trickle, no one knew that forkroot can be used to reduce the amount of OP one channels, instead of just blocking access to the source.


I did.


No it isn't! Elayne struggles to <>reach for the source, but there is no mention of how much they can channel once they manage that.


Yes. Reaching the source. You'll notice that there's nothing about reduced ability once they do reach the source.


That slowly, you'd be able to reach the source is obvious. That the amount you can channel will also increase over time is not at all obvious.


And yours, apparently. Again... are you sure you know what you're typing?


Well, I hope you're not a scientist. Just because physical abilities recover in one way doesn't mean channeling abilities will recover in the same way. That that turns out to be true doesn't preclude any alternatives.

By your logic, when someone removes a shield, the channeler can only slowly be able to draw in to their maximum potential. But we all know that a shield works by an all or nothing mechanism, unless you make a special shield. Forkroot could have been exactly the same.


I could almost win the Nobel Prize. But I did not win the Nobel Prize. Obviously, I won the Nobel Prize?


What rot! We have seen Aes Sedai do shielding like none other. Mylen shields three women, two of whom were pretty strong, by AS standards! If Mylen (who at best, is as strong as Silviana) can shield Joline, Teslyn and Edesina, Silviana can certainly shield Egwene!


And your ideas are from a secret email RJ sent you?


Of course she does! She's the only person who has compared the skills of Aes Sedai and Wise Ones.


She knows she can hammer at it and exhaust Amys.


Because she says there is no way for her to break the shield, period.


What? If she could break through, she'd have made mincemeat of Silviana and the other two and been on her merry way!