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If the Shadow had removed Elaida so Egwene was Amyrlin whilst Rand was still Dark ... ajfurst Send a noteboard - 16/12/2010 11:56:08 PM
Egwene on the other hand....if the Dark One had had a clue, he could have done as much damage if not more arguebly by focusing his efforts on Egwene instead of Rand throughout the books but that's here nor there at this point.

Yep, just think how well things would have gone if the Shadow had seen Elaida pulled down months earlier to let Egwene take charge. Even if she had subsequently purged the BA, imagine a confrontation between Mary Sue and Dark Rand. Whether Rand killed most of the AS or the AS shielded Rand (likely precipitating his followers to attack the Tower) it would have been all over for the Light.
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Egwene, a poor leader? redhand - 16/12/2010 05:59:15 PM 2546 Views
Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician. lilltempest - 16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM 1736 Views
Well! No love lost there echooff - 17/12/2010 01:52:59 PM 1219 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? RabidWombat - 16/12/2010 09:35:44 PM 1493 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Hot Pie - 16/12/2010 10:53:20 PM 1446 Views
If the Shadow had removed Elaida so Egwene was Amyrlin whilst Rand was still Dark ... ajfurst - 16/12/2010 11:56:08 PM 1344 Views
Same thing if Elaida was in charge when meeting w/ Dark Rand. *NM* Lord Haart - 17/12/2010 02:10:20 AM 744 Views
Except Rand wouldn't go to the WT with Elaida in charge, without having to fight ajfurst - 17/12/2010 02:50:18 AM 1483 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 17/12/2010 03:07:40 AM 1492 Views
Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? moratcorlm - 17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM 1310 Views
Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? fairfax - 17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM 1375 Views
That was the case a few books back Lord Haart - 17/12/2010 07:44:32 AM 1376 Views
Re: That was the case a few books back fairfax - 17/12/2010 10:14:36 AM 1407 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Macharius - 17/12/2010 02:30:48 PM 1452 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 17/12/2010 08:25:39 PM 1192 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:06:21 AM 1388 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 19/12/2010 08:41:31 PM 1298 Views
Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM* moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM 762 Views
Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. fairfax - 20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM 1311 Views
And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM 1434 Views
That's not quite true. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:47:33 PM 1239 Views
That's not quite accurate. moratcorlm - 21/12/2010 01:22:26 AM 1487 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 20/12/2010 12:57:42 AM 1203 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 20/12/2010 02:02:05 AM 1368 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 22/12/2010 07:08:37 AM 1322 Views
She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM 1381 Views
Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue lilltempest - 17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM 1863 Views
I see them as being the same thing. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM 1422 Views
I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy A Deathwatch Guard - 17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM 1289 Views
I would say that in the grand scheme of things, Rand's had good to balance out the bad. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:27:35 PM 1279 Views
Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM 1379 Views
Agree with your comments. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 03:12:32 PM 1745 Views
But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:17:17 PM 1693 Views
Re: But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters. Lord Haart - 22/12/2010 05:28:01 PM 1487 Views
You need to post more about Egwene Zeratul - 17/12/2010 08:16:19 PM 1361 Views
Nah. Just a hyopcrite. *NM* Chas - 17/12/2010 09:28:28 PM 727 Views
Yes, but for completely different reasons... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM 1409 Views
Yes, communication is key. Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:32:01 AM 1237 Views
You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? Lohikaarme - 18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM 1231 Views
Re: You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 02:41:25 PM 1157 Views
Definitely... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM 1256 Views
Where does the 200000 number come from? *NM* moratcorlm - 18/12/2010 03:36:22 PM 658 Views
That's not right... Hot Pie - 19/12/2010 12:56:25 AM 1237 Views
Re: That's not right... fairfax - 19/12/2010 11:38:54 PM 1356 Views
What's said above. Plus Lohikaarme - 19/12/2010 11:00:42 AM 1207 Views
More explanations... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 02:51:25 AM 1251 Views
Re: More explanations... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:40:46 AM 1319 Views
Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power. Lohikaarme - 20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM 1340 Views
Re: More explanations... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 03:58:58 PM 1420 Views
An Amyrlin doesn't really have a power base. BlackAdder - 18/12/2010 05:43:12 AM 1332 Views
I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts. Joel - 20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM 1229 Views
She has a pretty powerful weapon... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM 1253 Views
RJ is more powerful. Joel - 20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM 1412 Views
I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 03:58:03 AM 1299 Views
Re: I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... Lohikaarme - 21/12/2010 09:08:20 PM 1295 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM 1322 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM 1230 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 10:27:59 AM 1289 Views
One example of this... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 11:15:03 AM 1311 Views
Re: One example of this... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 11:22:10 AM 1196 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 11:08:35 AM 1271 Views
That's not quite true. Chas - 20/12/2010 10:35:45 PM 1277 Views
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