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If the Shadow had removed Elaida so Egwene was Amyrlin whilst Rand was still Dark ... ajfurst Send a noteboard - 16/12/2010 11:56:08 PM
Egwene on the other hand....if the Dark One had had a clue, he could have done as much damage if not more arguebly by focusing his efforts on Egwene instead of Rand throughout the books but that's here nor there at this point.

Yep, just think how well things would have gone if the Shadow had seen Elaida pulled down months earlier to let Egwene take charge. Even if she had subsequently purged the BA, imagine a confrontation between Mary Sue and Dark Rand. Whether Rand killed most of the AS or the AS shielded Rand (likely precipitating his followers to attack the Tower) it would have been all over for the Light.
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Egwene, a poor leader? redhand - 16/12/2010 05:59:15 PM 2483 Views
Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician. lilltempest - 16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM 1665 Views
Well! No love lost there echooff - 17/12/2010 01:52:59 PM 1147 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? RabidWombat - 16/12/2010 09:35:44 PM 1422 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Hot Pie - 16/12/2010 10:53:20 PM 1379 Views
If the Shadow had removed Elaida so Egwene was Amyrlin whilst Rand was still Dark ... ajfurst - 16/12/2010 11:56:08 PM 1272 Views
Same thing if Elaida was in charge when meeting w/ Dark Rand. *NM* Lord Haart - 17/12/2010 02:10:20 AM 709 Views
Except Rand wouldn't go to the WT with Elaida in charge, without having to fight ajfurst - 17/12/2010 02:50:18 AM 1420 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 17/12/2010 03:07:40 AM 1428 Views
Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? moratcorlm - 17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM 1243 Views
Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? fairfax - 17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM 1315 Views
That was the case a few books back Lord Haart - 17/12/2010 07:44:32 AM 1314 Views
Re: That was the case a few books back fairfax - 17/12/2010 10:14:36 AM 1344 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Macharius - 17/12/2010 02:30:48 PM 1385 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 17/12/2010 08:25:39 PM 1124 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:06:21 AM 1321 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 19/12/2010 08:41:31 PM 1235 Views
Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM* moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM 734 Views
Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. fairfax - 20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM 1253 Views
And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM 1376 Views
That's not quite true. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:47:33 PM 1168 Views
That's not quite accurate. moratcorlm - 21/12/2010 01:22:26 AM 1414 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 20/12/2010 12:57:42 AM 1140 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 20/12/2010 02:02:05 AM 1304 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 22/12/2010 07:08:37 AM 1231 Views
She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM 1314 Views
Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue lilltempest - 17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM 1763 Views
I see them as being the same thing. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM 1339 Views
I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy A Deathwatch Guard - 17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM 1223 Views
I would say that in the grand scheme of things, Rand's had good to balance out the bad. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:27:35 PM 1210 Views
Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM 1320 Views
Agree with your comments. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 03:12:32 PM 1672 Views
But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:17:17 PM 1623 Views
Re: But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters. Lord Haart - 22/12/2010 05:28:01 PM 1430 Views
You need to post more about Egwene Zeratul - 17/12/2010 08:16:19 PM 1293 Views
Nah. Just a hyopcrite. *NM* Chas - 17/12/2010 09:28:28 PM 698 Views
Yes, but for completely different reasons... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM 1332 Views
Yes, communication is key. Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:32:01 AM 1170 Views
You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? Lohikaarme - 18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM 1163 Views
Re: You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 02:41:25 PM 1088 Views
Definitely... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM 1191 Views
Where does the 200000 number come from? *NM* moratcorlm - 18/12/2010 03:36:22 PM 632 Views
That's not right... Hot Pie - 19/12/2010 12:56:25 AM 1174 Views
Re: That's not right... fairfax - 19/12/2010 11:38:54 PM 1290 Views
What's said above. Plus Lohikaarme - 19/12/2010 11:00:42 AM 1141 Views
More explanations... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 02:51:25 AM 1180 Views
Re: More explanations... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:40:46 AM 1244 Views
Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power. Lohikaarme - 20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM 1263 Views
Re: More explanations... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 03:58:58 PM 1352 Views
An Amyrlin doesn't really have a power base. BlackAdder - 18/12/2010 05:43:12 AM 1259 Views
I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts. Joel - 20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM 1163 Views
She has a pretty powerful weapon... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM 1191 Views
RJ is more powerful. Joel - 20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM 1325 Views
I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 03:58:03 AM 1228 Views
Re: I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... Lohikaarme - 21/12/2010 09:08:20 PM 1225 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM 1274 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM 1162 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 10:27:59 AM 1224 Views
One example of this... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 11:15:03 AM 1260 Views
Re: One example of this... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 11:22:10 AM 1125 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 11:08:35 AM 1197 Views
That's not quite true. Chas - 20/12/2010 10:35:45 PM 1223 Views
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