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I see them as being the same thing. RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM
Except the boys are given a metaphysical explanation and the Wondergirls are just given the Magical +10 Protection that Main Characters get in comics, which mean the same thing. It's all semantics to me.

Both dampen any sense of threat or risk to the characters, so I don't see the point of criticizing one main character for being untouchable and perfect when another main character displays the same abilities except with some book explanation.

This is a trait that most main characters have in series such as this and complaining about them just seems to be missing the point IMHO. It seems like a justification for fanboyism.

Oh, and being captured and/or tortured by the Damane, the Seanchan and the Black Ajah seemed like a good amount of challenges to earn some Plot Convenient Invincibility. Honestly, Rand, Mat and Perrin have had it pretty easy next to the women in this series.
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Egwene, a poor leader? redhand - 16/12/2010 05:59:15 PM 2544 Views
Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician. lilltempest - 16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM 1735 Views
Well! No love lost there echooff - 17/12/2010 01:52:59 PM 1214 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? RabidWombat - 16/12/2010 09:35:44 PM 1490 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Hot Pie - 16/12/2010 10:53:20 PM 1444 Views
If the Shadow had removed Elaida so Egwene was Amyrlin whilst Rand was still Dark ... ajfurst - 16/12/2010 11:56:08 PM 1338 Views
Same thing if Elaida was in charge when meeting w/ Dark Rand. *NM* Lord Haart - 17/12/2010 02:10:20 AM 743 Views
Except Rand wouldn't go to the WT with Elaida in charge, without having to fight ajfurst - 17/12/2010 02:50:18 AM 1483 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 17/12/2010 03:07:40 AM 1492 Views
Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? moratcorlm - 17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM 1307 Views
Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? fairfax - 17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM 1369 Views
That was the case a few books back Lord Haart - 17/12/2010 07:44:32 AM 1371 Views
Re: That was the case a few books back fairfax - 17/12/2010 10:14:36 AM 1405 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Macharius - 17/12/2010 02:30:48 PM 1451 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 17/12/2010 08:25:39 PM 1188 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:06:21 AM 1386 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 19/12/2010 08:41:31 PM 1297 Views
Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM* moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM 761 Views
Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. fairfax - 20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM 1307 Views
And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM 1430 Views
That's not quite true. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:47:33 PM 1235 Views
That's not quite accurate. moratcorlm - 21/12/2010 01:22:26 AM 1481 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 20/12/2010 12:57:42 AM 1200 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 20/12/2010 02:02:05 AM 1366 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 22/12/2010 07:08:37 AM 1317 Views
She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM 1376 Views
Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue lilltempest - 17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM 1861 Views
I see them as being the same thing. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM 1421 Views
I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy A Deathwatch Guard - 17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM 1287 Views
I would say that in the grand scheme of things, Rand's had good to balance out the bad. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:27:35 PM 1274 Views
Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM 1378 Views
Agree with your comments. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 03:12:32 PM 1745 Views
But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:17:17 PM 1691 Views
Re: But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters. Lord Haart - 22/12/2010 05:28:01 PM 1487 Views
You need to post more about Egwene Zeratul - 17/12/2010 08:16:19 PM 1360 Views
Nah. Just a hyopcrite. *NM* Chas - 17/12/2010 09:28:28 PM 725 Views
Yes, but for completely different reasons... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM 1406 Views
Yes, communication is key. Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:32:01 AM 1233 Views
You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? Lohikaarme - 18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM 1223 Views
Re: You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 02:41:25 PM 1157 Views
Definitely... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM 1251 Views
Where does the 200000 number come from? *NM* moratcorlm - 18/12/2010 03:36:22 PM 658 Views
That's not right... Hot Pie - 19/12/2010 12:56:25 AM 1234 Views
Re: That's not right... fairfax - 19/12/2010 11:38:54 PM 1354 Views
What's said above. Plus Lohikaarme - 19/12/2010 11:00:42 AM 1206 Views
More explanations... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 02:51:25 AM 1245 Views
Re: More explanations... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:40:46 AM 1317 Views
Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power. Lohikaarme - 20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM 1335 Views
Re: More explanations... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 03:58:58 PM 1415 Views
An Amyrlin doesn't really have a power base. BlackAdder - 18/12/2010 05:43:12 AM 1326 Views
I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts. Joel - 20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM 1228 Views
She has a pretty powerful weapon... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM 1251 Views
RJ is more powerful. Joel - 20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM 1406 Views
I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 03:58:03 AM 1295 Views
Re: I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... Lohikaarme - 21/12/2010 09:08:20 PM 1289 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM 1318 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM 1226 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 10:27:59 AM 1288 Views
One example of this... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 11:15:03 AM 1307 Views
Re: One example of this... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 11:22:10 AM 1196 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 11:08:35 AM 1269 Views
That's not quite true. Chas - 20/12/2010 10:35:45 PM 1277 Views
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