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Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax Send a noteboard - 17/12/2010 08:25:39 PM

I'm not so sure about the appointment part. From what I understand, the Hall has a great deal of influence over this process. Besides, what offices are there to which Egwene can make appointments? The only one I can think of it as ambassadors to other nations; the Hall and Ajahs run the rest.


The power of apppointment can be used either positively or negatively. Egwene can appoint sisters who oppose her to meaningless tasks or meaningless places without input from the Hall. An ally of Romanda could be sent to Arad Doman to distribute food, an ally of Lelaine could be given task of rat removal for Tar Valon, and if you really piss Egwene off you could be sent as a Windfinder instructor. On a positive note Egwene can make appointments that strengthen he position in the Tower. Silvliana is an example. Egwene got a very competetant Keeper and she made a gesture that would get Red support. Egwene can use appointments to weaken her foes and strengthen her supporters.


Egwene can rely on what, ten Aes Sedai? Out of approximately 1000? Elayne and Nynaeve aren't planning on living their lives in the Tower to be able to support her, so while trustworthy I really can't count on them as being reliable when it really comes down to it. As you say, she'll need 20 years for all the novices to become AS before she's able to rely on them. In the interrim, she'll have to fight tooth and nail to get anything done.


I think Egwene can rely on a few more than ten Aes Sedai. The Aes Sedai who really oppose Egwene are few in number. Most of the Aes Sedai will support Egwene because she is the Amyrlin. Romanda, Lelaine, and their handful of supporters will continue to oppose some if not most of Egwene policies, but I don't think they want to overthrow Egwene with Tarmon Gaidan just around the corner.

I guess we will have to disagree on the power of the moral suasion of Nyneave and Elayne. I think most Aes Seadai seeing Egwene being supported by the Queen of Malkier, defeater of Moggy, healer of the stilled, healer of the taint, healer of taint madness, healer of the weather, and the most powerful channeler in the Tower would give supporting Egwene a thought.
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Egwene, a poor leader? - 16/12/2010 05:59:15 PM 2515 Views
Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician. - 16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM 1698 Views
Well! No love lost there - 17/12/2010 01:52:59 PM 1181 Views
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Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 17/12/2010 03:07:40 AM 1455 Views
Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? - 17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM 1270 Views
Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? - 17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM 1342 Views
That was the case a few books back - 17/12/2010 07:44:32 AM 1343 Views
Re: That was the case a few books back - 17/12/2010 10:14:36 AM 1371 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 17/12/2010 02:30:48 PM 1419 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 17/12/2010 08:25:39 PM 1152 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 18/12/2010 05:06:21 AM 1349 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 19/12/2010 08:41:31 PM 1262 Views
Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM* - 20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM 743 Views
Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. - 20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM 1282 Views
And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene - 20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM 1400 Views
That's not quite true. - 20/12/2010 06:47:33 PM 1196 Views
That's not quite accurate. - 21/12/2010 01:22:26 AM 1450 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 20/12/2010 12:57:42 AM 1168 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 20/12/2010 02:02:05 AM 1334 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 22/12/2010 07:08:37 AM 1276 Views
She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV - 17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM 1344 Views
Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue - 17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM 1825 Views
I see them as being the same thing. - 17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM 1374 Views
I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy - 17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM 1259 Views
I would say that in the grand scheme of things, Rand's had good to balance out the bad. - 20/12/2010 06:27:35 PM 1245 Views
Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM 1344 Views
Agree with your comments. - 20/12/2010 03:12:32 PM 1705 Views
You need to post more about Egwene - 17/12/2010 08:16:19 PM 1321 Views
Nah. Just a hyopcrite. *NM* - 17/12/2010 09:28:28 PM 708 Views
Yes, but for completely different reasons... - 18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM 1359 Views
Yes, communication is key. - 18/12/2010 05:32:01 AM 1200 Views
You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? - 18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM 1198 Views
Re: You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? - 18/12/2010 02:41:25 PM 1115 Views
Definitely... - 18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM 1218 Views
Where does the 200000 number come from? *NM* - 18/12/2010 03:36:22 PM 641 Views
That's not right... - 19/12/2010 12:56:25 AM 1205 Views
Re: That's not right... - 19/12/2010 11:38:54 PM 1320 Views
What's said above. Plus - 19/12/2010 11:00:42 AM 1169 Views
More explanations... - 20/12/2010 02:51:25 AM 1211 Views
Re: More explanations... - 20/12/2010 09:40:46 AM 1282 Views
Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power. - 20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM 1296 Views
Re: More explanations... - 20/12/2010 03:58:58 PM 1382 Views
An Amyrlin doesn't really have a power base. - 18/12/2010 05:43:12 AM 1294 Views
I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts. - 20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM 1193 Views
She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM 1220 Views
RJ is more powerful. - 20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM 1369 Views
I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... - 20/12/2010 03:58:03 AM 1256 Views
Re: I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... - 21/12/2010 09:08:20 PM 1253 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM 1292 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM 1197 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 10:27:59 AM 1257 Views
One example of this... - 20/12/2010 11:15:03 AM 1280 Views
Re: One example of this... - 20/12/2010 11:22:10 AM 1158 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 11:08:35 AM 1228 Views
That's not quite true. - 20/12/2010 10:35:45 PM 1248 Views

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