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Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax Send a noteboard - 17/12/2010 08:25:39 PM

I'm not so sure about the appointment part. From what I understand, the Hall has a great deal of influence over this process. Besides, what offices are there to which Egwene can make appointments? The only one I can think of it as ambassadors to other nations; the Hall and Ajahs run the rest.


The power of apppointment can be used either positively or negatively. Egwene can appoint sisters who oppose her to meaningless tasks or meaningless places without input from the Hall. An ally of Romanda could be sent to Arad Doman to distribute food, an ally of Lelaine could be given task of rat removal for Tar Valon, and if you really piss Egwene off you could be sent as a Windfinder instructor. On a positive note Egwene can make appointments that strengthen he position in the Tower. Silvliana is an example. Egwene got a very competetant Keeper and she made a gesture that would get Red support. Egwene can use appointments to weaken her foes and strengthen her supporters.


Egwene can rely on what, ten Aes Sedai? Out of approximately 1000? Elayne and Nynaeve aren't planning on living their lives in the Tower to be able to support her, so while trustworthy I really can't count on them as being reliable when it really comes down to it. As you say, she'll need 20 years for all the novices to become AS before she's able to rely on them. In the interrim, she'll have to fight tooth and nail to get anything done.


I think Egwene can rely on a few more than ten Aes Sedai. The Aes Sedai who really oppose Egwene are few in number. Most of the Aes Sedai will support Egwene because she is the Amyrlin. Romanda, Lelaine, and their handful of supporters will continue to oppose some if not most of Egwene policies, but I don't think they want to overthrow Egwene with Tarmon Gaidan just around the corner.

I guess we will have to disagree on the power of the moral suasion of Nyneave and Elayne. I think most Aes Seadai seeing Egwene being supported by the Queen of Malkier, defeater of Moggy, healer of the stilled, healer of the taint, healer of taint madness, healer of the weather, and the most powerful channeler in the Tower would give supporting Egwene a thought.
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Egwene, a poor leader? - 16/12/2010 05:59:15 PM 2445 Views
Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician. - 16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM 1621 Views
Well! No love lost there - 17/12/2010 01:52:59 PM 1110 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 16/12/2010 09:35:44 PM 1387 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 16/12/2010 10:53:20 PM 1338 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 17/12/2010 03:07:40 AM 1387 Views
Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? - 17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM 1197 Views
Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? - 17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM 1267 Views
That was the case a few books back - 17/12/2010 07:44:32 AM 1274 Views
Re: That was the case a few books back - 17/12/2010 10:14:36 AM 1302 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 17/12/2010 02:30:48 PM 1347 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 17/12/2010 08:25:39 PM 1090 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 18/12/2010 05:06:21 AM 1280 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 19/12/2010 08:41:31 PM 1182 Views
Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM* - 20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM 717 Views
Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. - 20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM 1218 Views
And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene - 20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM 1331 Views
That's not quite true. - 20/12/2010 06:47:33 PM 1138 Views
That's not quite accurate. - 21/12/2010 01:22:26 AM 1376 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 20/12/2010 12:57:42 AM 1109 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 20/12/2010 02:02:05 AM 1259 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 22/12/2010 07:08:37 AM 1183 Views
She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV - 17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM 1271 Views
Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue - 17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM 1701 Views
I see them as being the same thing. - 17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM 1283 Views
I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy - 17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM 1176 Views
I would say that in the grand scheme of things, Rand's had good to balance out the bad. - 20/12/2010 06:27:35 PM 1165 Views
Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM 1279 Views
Agree with your comments. - 20/12/2010 03:12:32 PM 1633 Views
You need to post more about Egwene - 17/12/2010 08:16:19 PM 1252 Views
Nah. Just a hyopcrite. *NM* - 17/12/2010 09:28:28 PM 683 Views
Yes, but for completely different reasons... - 18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM 1295 Views
Yes, communication is key. - 18/12/2010 05:32:01 AM 1139 Views
You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? - 18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM 1122 Views
Re: You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? - 18/12/2010 02:41:25 PM 1040 Views
Definitely... - 18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM 1150 Views
Where does the 200000 number come from? *NM* - 18/12/2010 03:36:22 PM 612 Views
That's not right... - 19/12/2010 12:56:25 AM 1129 Views
Re: That's not right... - 19/12/2010 11:38:54 PM 1251 Views
What's said above. Plus - 19/12/2010 11:00:42 AM 1106 Views
More explanations... - 20/12/2010 02:51:25 AM 1137 Views
Re: More explanations... - 20/12/2010 09:40:46 AM 1206 Views
Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power. - 20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM 1224 Views
Re: More explanations... - 20/12/2010 03:58:58 PM 1316 Views
An Amyrlin doesn't really have a power base. - 18/12/2010 05:43:12 AM 1224 Views
I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts. - 20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM 1125 Views
She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM 1146 Views
RJ is more powerful. - 20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM 1284 Views
I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... - 20/12/2010 03:58:03 AM 1192 Views
Re: I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... - 21/12/2010 09:08:20 PM 1184 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM 1235 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM 1125 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 10:27:59 AM 1191 Views
One example of this... - 20/12/2010 11:15:03 AM 1221 Views
Re: One example of this... - 20/12/2010 11:22:10 AM 1085 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 11:08:35 AM 1161 Views
That's not quite true. - 20/12/2010 10:35:45 PM 1179 Views

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