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Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM
Honestly, Rand, Mat and Perrin have had it pretty easy next to the women in this series.


Yeah, 'cause spending 2 years knowing that you'll turn into a human wolf and then losing your wife to a bunch of savages for months is easy.

So is having your eye pulled out for someone you never really cared for. Or knowing that your doomed a lover to one of the most grisly deaths possible.

And of course, knowing that you're doomed to more or less break the world again (even in the case of a victory) is easy to handle. Just like spending weeks traveling alone, hunted by darkfriends and shadowspawn, using a barely-controllable force that you know is turning you insane. Then causing the deaths of tens, then hundreds, then thousands, then tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of people by your actions. And spending weeks inside a box which is smaller than a coffin, let out only to be beaten while you watch the woman you love being beaten even harder. Then having your hand BURNT OFF and not having the time to even consider it. Then seeing the woman who did that to you take control of your mind and almost cause you to kill the woman you love.

That's just a few moments. Please, which of the wondergirls have experienced anything worse than ANY of those moments? Nynaeve is the only one who has a legitimate fear of loss (Lan). Elayne makes me sick (walking in to danger while pregnant). Egwene has been spanked a few times, then put in prison. The a'dam was bad, yes, but she clearly hasn't moved past that the way the other characters have moved past their fears (Rand accepts who he is, Perrin has balance with the wolf, Mat freely gave up his eye. Even Nynaeve let Lan go).

Writing this has made me realize what I dislike the most about Egwene and Elayne - I've never felt that they've actually sacrificed anything for other people. If Egwene can forgive the Seanchan (from a position of humility, rather than being holier-than-thou, the latter of which wouldn't be a sacrifice of opinion at all), I might actually gain some respect for her.
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Egwene, a poor leader? - 16/12/2010 05:59:15 PM 2590 Views
Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician. - 16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM 1778 Views
Well! No love lost there - 17/12/2010 01:52:59 PM 1263 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 16/12/2010 09:35:44 PM 1544 Views
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Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? - 17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM 1348 Views
Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? - 17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM 1423 Views
That was the case a few books back - 17/12/2010 07:44:32 AM 1426 Views
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Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM* - 20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM 785 Views
Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. - 20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM 1358 Views
And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene - 20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM 1482 Views
That's not quite true. - 20/12/2010 06:47:33 PM 1277 Views
That's not quite accurate. - 21/12/2010 01:22:26 AM 1529 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 20/12/2010 12:57:42 AM 1238 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 20/12/2010 02:02:05 AM 1414 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 22/12/2010 07:08:37 AM 1378 Views
She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV - 17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM 1441 Views
Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue - 17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM 1920 Views
I see them as being the same thing. - 17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM 1475 Views
I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy - 17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM 1330 Views
I would say that in the grand scheme of things, Rand's had good to balance out the bad. - 20/12/2010 06:27:35 PM 1320 Views
Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM 1431 Views
Agree with your comments. - 20/12/2010 03:12:32 PM 1787 Views
You need to post more about Egwene - 17/12/2010 08:16:19 PM 1398 Views
Nah. Just a hyopcrite. *NM* - 17/12/2010 09:28:28 PM 751 Views
Yes, but for completely different reasons... - 18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM 1453 Views
Yes, communication is key. - 18/12/2010 05:32:01 AM 1282 Views
You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? - 18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM 1272 Views
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Definitely... - 18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM 1298 Views
Where does the 200000 number come from? *NM* - 18/12/2010 03:36:22 PM 688 Views
That's not right... - 19/12/2010 12:56:25 AM 1280 Views
Re: That's not right... - 19/12/2010 11:38:54 PM 1409 Views
What's said above. Plus - 19/12/2010 11:00:42 AM 1257 Views
More explanations... - 20/12/2010 02:51:25 AM 1303 Views
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Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power. - 20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM 1392 Views
Re: More explanations... - 20/12/2010 03:58:58 PM 1483 Views
An Amyrlin doesn't really have a power base. - 18/12/2010 05:43:12 AM 1379 Views
I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts. - 20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM 1270 Views
She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM 1292 Views
RJ is more powerful. - 20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM 1483 Views
I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... - 20/12/2010 03:58:03 AM 1333 Views
Re: I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... - 21/12/2010 09:08:20 PM 1343 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM 1368 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM 1273 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 10:27:59 AM 1334 Views
One example of this... - 20/12/2010 11:15:03 AM 1346 Views
Re: One example of this... - 20/12/2010 11:22:10 AM 1236 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 11:08:35 AM 1314 Views
That's not quite true. - 20/12/2010 10:35:45 PM 1319 Views

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