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Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM
Honestly, Rand, Mat and Perrin have had it pretty easy next to the women in this series.


Yeah, 'cause spending 2 years knowing that you'll turn into a human wolf and then losing your wife to a bunch of savages for months is easy.

So is having your eye pulled out for someone you never really cared for. Or knowing that your doomed a lover to one of the most grisly deaths possible.

And of course, knowing that you're doomed to more or less break the world again (even in the case of a victory) is easy to handle. Just like spending weeks traveling alone, hunted by darkfriends and shadowspawn, using a barely-controllable force that you know is turning you insane. Then causing the deaths of tens, then hundreds, then thousands, then tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of people by your actions. And spending weeks inside a box which is smaller than a coffin, let out only to be beaten while you watch the woman you love being beaten even harder. Then having your hand BURNT OFF and not having the time to even consider it. Then seeing the woman who did that to you take control of your mind and almost cause you to kill the woman you love.

That's just a few moments. Please, which of the wondergirls have experienced anything worse than ANY of those moments? Nynaeve is the only one who has a legitimate fear of loss (Lan). Elayne makes me sick (walking in to danger while pregnant). Egwene has been spanked a few times, then put in prison. The a'dam was bad, yes, but she clearly hasn't moved past that the way the other characters have moved past their fears (Rand accepts who he is, Perrin has balance with the wolf, Mat freely gave up his eye. Even Nynaeve let Lan go).

Writing this has made me realize what I dislike the most about Egwene and Elayne - I've never felt that they've actually sacrificed anything for other people. If Egwene can forgive the Seanchan (from a position of humility, rather than being holier-than-thou, the latter of which wouldn't be a sacrifice of opinion at all), I might actually gain some respect for her.
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Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician. - 16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM 1213 Views
Well! No love lost there - 17/12/2010 01:52:59 PM 698 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 16/12/2010 09:35:44 PM 997 Views
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Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? - 17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM 790 Views
Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? - 17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM 898 Views
That was the case a few books back - 17/12/2010 07:44:32 AM 890 Views
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Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM* - 20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM 498 Views
Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. - 20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM 825 Views
And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene - 20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM 954 Views
That's not quite true. - 20/12/2010 06:47:33 PM 753 Views
That's not quite accurate. - 21/12/2010 01:22:26 AM 1041 Views
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Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 22/12/2010 07:08:37 AM 783 Views
She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV - 17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM 882 Views
Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue - 17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM 1195 Views
I see them as being the same thing. - 17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM 869 Views
I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy - 17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM 789 Views
Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM 888 Views
Agree with your comments. - 20/12/2010 03:12:32 PM 1081 Views
You need to post more about Egwene - 17/12/2010 08:16:19 PM 839 Views
Nah. Just a hyopcrite. *NM* - 17/12/2010 09:28:28 PM 443 Views
Yes, but for completely different reasons... - 18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM 905 Views
Yes, communication is key. - 18/12/2010 05:32:01 AM 788 Views
You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? - 18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM 749 Views
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Definitely... - 18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM 766 Views
Where does the 200000 number come from? *NM* - 18/12/2010 03:36:22 PM 407 Views
That's not right... - 19/12/2010 12:56:25 AM 737 Views
Re: That's not right... - 19/12/2010 11:38:54 PM 822 Views
What's said above. Plus - 19/12/2010 11:00:42 AM 715 Views
More explanations... - 20/12/2010 02:51:25 AM 729 Views
Re: More explanations... - 20/12/2010 09:40:46 AM 807 Views
Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power. - 20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM 803 Views
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An Amyrlin doesn't really have a power base. - 18/12/2010 05:43:12 AM 853 Views
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She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM 772 Views
RJ is more powerful. - 20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM 873 Views
I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... - 20/12/2010 03:58:03 AM 815 Views
Re: I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... - 21/12/2010 09:08:20 PM 794 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM 857 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM 729 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 10:27:59 AM 783 Views
One example of this... - 20/12/2010 11:15:03 AM 851 Views
Re: One example of this... - 20/12/2010 11:22:10 AM 709 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 11:08:35 AM 786 Views
That's not quite true. - 20/12/2010 10:35:45 PM 783 Views

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