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Re: More explanations... moratcorlm Send a noteboard - 20/12/2010 09:40:46 AM
Egwene certainly commands more channelers directly than Tuon. Adding in the Novices and Accepted, Egwene has around 2000 women under her command.
We have no indication of whether that's more than Tuon can command. And the overwhelming majority of the novices are unable to channel very much; the Aes Sedai refuse to force them, while damane are forced routinely (as the a'dam makes the practice completely safe).
Added to that, the Wise Ones and Windfinders will almost certainly support the Aes Sedai fully, against the Seanchan.
The Wise Ones and Windfinders have their own commitments.
As for armies, there's Garth Bryne's 50000 added to Chubain's 50000. But Siuan tells us that Bryne's recruitment efforts have seen great success, in ToM. So, around 150,000 is more likely.
Right, if they can be mobilized in time, and if (as is tremendously unlikely) the Seanchan only have 200,000 or so soldiers. Not that all of those will be committed in any case; the Tower could probably be seized by a first strike well before Bryne's army at Merrilor could react.
Added to that, the armies of Andor and Cairhein, and probably many others, can be pressed into service behind the Tower. The Aiel will also likely help.
Andor and Cairhien cannot probably not be impressed in the first place; that would be Elayne's personal judgment call, whether or not the Hall censured her for it. And in any case, they're already committed elsewhere. The Last Battle's here, or hadn't you heard? Andor itself is under attack. Elayne has to prioritize.
Added to all this, Egwene has sa'angreal and angreal.
Well, she does if she brought them out of those storerooms the Seanchan will be coming through.
Just 13 sisters can transport a huge army, leaving all others free to fight, whereas the Seanchan will have to use nearly all their Damane to transport huge armies.
And if it comes to combat on a field of battle that will no doubt be useful. Unfortunately for the Aes Sedai, by the time that happened the White Tower would most likely have already been destroyed.
Provisional calendar for Towers of Midnight: https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0ApFWTyzG9G_UdHZCUjQzVGNLeUJyMkUycXkzQlExSFE&output=html
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Egwene, a poor leader? redhand - 16/12/2010 05:59:15 PM 2538 Views
Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician. lilltempest - 16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM 1734 Views
Well! No love lost there echooff - 17/12/2010 01:52:59 PM 1214 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? RabidWombat - 16/12/2010 09:35:44 PM 1489 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Hot Pie - 16/12/2010 10:53:20 PM 1444 Views
If the Shadow had removed Elaida so Egwene was Amyrlin whilst Rand was still Dark ... ajfurst - 16/12/2010 11:56:08 PM 1338 Views
Same thing if Elaida was in charge when meeting w/ Dark Rand. *NM* Lord Haart - 17/12/2010 02:10:20 AM 742 Views
Except Rand wouldn't go to the WT with Elaida in charge, without having to fight ajfurst - 17/12/2010 02:50:18 AM 1482 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 17/12/2010 03:07:40 AM 1490 Views
Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? moratcorlm - 17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM 1306 Views
Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? fairfax - 17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM 1369 Views
That was the case a few books back Lord Haart - 17/12/2010 07:44:32 AM 1371 Views
Re: That was the case a few books back fairfax - 17/12/2010 10:14:36 AM 1403 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Macharius - 17/12/2010 02:30:48 PM 1448 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 17/12/2010 08:25:39 PM 1186 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:06:21 AM 1385 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 19/12/2010 08:41:31 PM 1295 Views
Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM* moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM 761 Views
Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. fairfax - 20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM 1304 Views
And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM 1429 Views
That's not quite true. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:47:33 PM 1235 Views
That's not quite accurate. moratcorlm - 21/12/2010 01:22:26 AM 1479 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 20/12/2010 12:57:42 AM 1195 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 20/12/2010 02:02:05 AM 1363 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 22/12/2010 07:08:37 AM 1316 Views
She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM 1376 Views
Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue lilltempest - 17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM 1859 Views
I see them as being the same thing. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM 1418 Views
I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy A Deathwatch Guard - 17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM 1285 Views
I would say that in the grand scheme of things, Rand's had good to balance out the bad. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:27:35 PM 1272 Views
Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM 1374 Views
Agree with your comments. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 03:12:32 PM 1745 Views
But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:17:17 PM 1687 Views
Re: But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters. Lord Haart - 22/12/2010 05:28:01 PM 1485 Views
You need to post more about Egwene Zeratul - 17/12/2010 08:16:19 PM 1356 Views
Nah. Just a hyopcrite. *NM* Chas - 17/12/2010 09:28:28 PM 725 Views
Yes, but for completely different reasons... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM 1406 Views
Yes, communication is key. Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:32:01 AM 1233 Views
You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? Lohikaarme - 18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM 1222 Views
Re: You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 02:41:25 PM 1154 Views
Definitely... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM 1248 Views
Where does the 200000 number come from? *NM* moratcorlm - 18/12/2010 03:36:22 PM 656 Views
That's not right... Hot Pie - 19/12/2010 12:56:25 AM 1232 Views
Re: That's not right... fairfax - 19/12/2010 11:38:54 PM 1351 Views
What's said above. Plus Lohikaarme - 19/12/2010 11:00:42 AM 1206 Views
More explanations... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 02:51:25 AM 1245 Views
Re: More explanations... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:40:46 AM 1316 Views
Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power. Lohikaarme - 20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM 1335 Views
Re: More explanations... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 03:58:58 PM 1415 Views
An Amyrlin doesn't really have a power base. BlackAdder - 18/12/2010 05:43:12 AM 1324 Views
I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts. Joel - 20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM 1228 Views
She has a pretty powerful weapon... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM 1251 Views
RJ is more powerful. Joel - 20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM 1406 Views
I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 03:58:03 AM 1295 Views
Re: I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... Lohikaarme - 21/12/2010 09:08:20 PM 1287 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM 1318 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM 1224 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 10:27:59 AM 1284 Views
One example of this... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 11:15:03 AM 1306 Views
Re: One example of this... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 11:22:10 AM 1195 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 11:08:35 AM 1266 Views
That's not quite true. Chas - 20/12/2010 10:35:45 PM 1275 Views
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