Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power.
Lohikaarme Send a noteboard - 20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM
Egwene certainly commands more channelers directly than Tuon. Adding in the Novices and Accepted, Egwene has around 2000 women under her command. While individually, the Novices might be useless (or not, based on what Egwene was able to do with them in tGS), they can link with Aes Sedai, making each circle individually too powerful for the Seanchan to face.
Half of those are bound by the Oaths against using OP as a weapon, and nearly all are to damane like toddlers to swordmasters. Also captured channelers add to Seanchan power.Added to that, the Wise Ones and Windfinders will almost certainly support the Aes Sedai fully, against the Seanchan.
I guess this is why we disagree. You see Egwene having her allies, who are not hers to command but Rands, adding to her power more than I do.As for armies, there's Garth Bryne's 50000 added to Chubain's 50000. But Siuan tells us that Bryne's recruitment efforts have seen great success, in ToM. So, around 150,000 is more likely.
Fresh recruits versus the Seanchan? Wow, that would be over fast.Added to that, the armies of Andor and Cairhein, and probably many others, can be pressed into service behind the Tower. The Aiel will also likely help.
Same as with the WO and WF. Elayne may be Egwenes to command (though that clashes with AS induvidualism) but her realms aren't.And while the Seanchan have better logistics, with Traveling, those issues become less relevant. As strategists, Bryne likely can come up with plans to flummox the Seanchan, just like Ituralde did so many times.
Maby. Though it would be interesting to see what Mat would do, choosing between Eg&WT and Tuon&Seanchan.Added to all this, Egwene has sa'angreal and angreal. Plus, linked sisters can make huge Gateways, which means her armies will be much more mobile than the Seanchan. Just 13 sisters can transport a huge army, leaving all others free to fight, whereas the Seanchan will have to use nearly all their Damane to transport huge armies. Plus, very few of those damane will be able to make gateways large enough for wagons and carts...
Egwene does have *angreal, but she also has the Oaths.
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Egwene, a poor leader?
16/12/2010 05:59:15 PM
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Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician.
16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM
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Re: Egwene, a poor leader?
16/12/2010 10:53:20 PM
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If the Shadow had removed Elaida so Egwene was Amyrlin whilst Rand was still Dark ...
16/12/2010 11:56:08 PM
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Same thing if Elaida was in charge when meeting w/ Dark Rand. *NM*
17/12/2010 02:10:20 AM
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Except Rand wouldn't go to the WT with Elaida in charge, without having to fight
17/12/2010 02:50:18 AM
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17/12/2010 03:07:40 AM
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Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are?
17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM
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Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are?
17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM
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17/12/2010 02:30:48 PM
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17/12/2010 08:25:39 PM
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Re: Egwene, a poor leader?
18/12/2010 05:06:21 AM
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Re: Egwene, a poor leader?
19/12/2010 08:41:31 PM
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Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM*
20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM
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Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends.
20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM
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And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene
20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM
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Re: Egwene, a poor leader?
20/12/2010 12:57:42 AM
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She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV
17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM
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Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue
17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM
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I see them as being the same thing.
17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM
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I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy
17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM
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I would say that in the grand scheme of things, Rand's had good to balance out the bad.
20/12/2010 06:27:35 PM
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Funniest statement I've ever seen on here.
18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM
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But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters.
20/12/2010 06:17:17 PM
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Re: But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters.
22/12/2010 05:28:01 PM
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Yes, but for completely different reasons...
18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM
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You think Egwene has more power than Tuon?
18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM
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Definitely...
18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM
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More explanations...
20/12/2010 02:51:25 AM
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Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power.
20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM
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I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts.
20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM
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She has a pretty powerful weapon...
20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM
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RJ is more powerful.
20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM
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Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon...
20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM
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20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM
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