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Or Sidious Send a noteboard - 24/09/2009 05:45:36 PM
I don't think they're necessarily mutually exclusive:

1. She will be one of the new dredlords at TG, whether Mesaana likes it or not, and/or

2. Something might come of the letter she sent Rand way back when, perhaps with her trying to find her way into his inner circle. It would need to happen quickly, probably in TGS, but the possibility remains there.


3. Pevara will get her.
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Your thoughts about TGS - chapter 2 *spoilers* Sidious - 24/09/2009 03:17:07 PM 7114 Views
Mind-numbingly boring... Shannow - 24/09/2009 04:22:52 PM 1862 Views
I thought it was excellent *NM* Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:32:05 PM 1078 Views
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I adored it. *NM* Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:37:38 PM 927 Views
Agreed, but only because of the incredibly slow audio reading. FORTY-FIVE minutes for ONE chapter!!! *NM* Cannoli - 25/09/2009 06:08:27 AM 976 Views
EVERY Chapter in the entire series is read that way. Yvves - 25/09/2009 01:40:07 PM 1380 Views
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Agreed. As for the speed issue... RandAllThor - 28/09/2009 02:11:13 PM 1237 Views
Cannoli’s journal of listening to “The Nature of Pain.” Cannoli - 28/09/2009 01:03:35 PM 1887 Views
Chapter summary Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:31:01 PM 1969 Views
sounds like its RJs work from the dialogue *NM* Iceman - 24/09/2009 04:33:57 PM 850 Views
I agree - I'm certain it was RJ *NM* Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:36:12 PM 1009 Views
Agreed. It was RJ through and through. *NM* Shannow - 24/09/2009 04:36:13 PM 908 Views
+1 Seriana Sedai - 25/09/2009 06:03:44 AM 1389 Views
I should disagree StinkerSkunk - 26/09/2009 10:34:58 PM 1495 Views
Jordan left tons of background info in notes Rurouni_Kenshin - 27/09/2009 07:36:11 PM 1386 Views
Re: Jordan left tons of background info in notes StinkerSkunk - 27/09/2009 08:10:06 PM 1431 Views
Her entry in Encyclopaedia wot makes no mention of her being amyrlin *NM* NaClH2O - 28/09/2009 01:17:49 AM 938 Views
Jordan could have easily added that to her backstory after LOC. It's been at least ten years. Rurouni_Kenshin - 28/09/2009 09:46:34 PM 1477 Views
Re: Jordan could have easily added that to her backstory after LOC. It's been at least ten years. StinkerSkunk - 28/09/2009 10:04:02 PM 1274 Views
Re: Chapter summary RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 06:50:36 PM 1559 Views
Can someone explain to me where Egwene developed this immense love for the Tower? Shannow - 24/09/2009 04:44:28 PM 1561 Views
Well, she's replaced everything else in her life with the Tower. Darth_Katie - 24/09/2009 04:47:05 PM 1573 Views
I always thought it was the small town thing Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:50:19 PM 1502 Views
Could it be that Fain could have contaminated her in tFOH? AliasRY - 24/09/2009 04:51:56 PM 1444 Views
Can Fain do that? Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:53:57 PM 1423 Views
No he can't (couldn't) DomA - 24/09/2009 05:02:21 PM 1637 Views
So you're saying that an antagonist is being portrayed as idiotic in this series? No way! Shannow - 24/09/2009 04:58:15 PM 1531 Views
I this case, I'm quite forgiving Sidious - 24/09/2009 05:36:59 PM 1435 Views
What has Gawyn done that demonstrates stupidity? Fanatic-Templar - 28/09/2009 05:21:39 AM 1397 Views
Ambitious people are like that redhand - 24/09/2009 05:08:27 PM 1470 Views
Re: Can someone explain to me where Egwene developed this immense love for the Tower? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 06:01:46 PM 1413 Views
I don't think its necessarily for the tower itself FredWeasley - 24/09/2009 08:30:15 PM 1396 Views
This made my morning happy. Darth_Katie - 24/09/2009 04:45:08 PM 1501 Views
I think it's different. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 05:51:11 PM 1528 Views
True. Darth_Katie - 24/09/2009 07:21:36 PM 1566 Views
Re: True. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 1418 Views
I also think Egwene might free them from it once she becomes recognized Amyrlin *NM* Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:36:55 PM 960 Views
Re: I think it's different. BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 03:24:22 AM 1402 Views
There's still a difference... fionwe1987 - 25/09/2009 04:28:55 AM 1319 Views
Re: There's still a difference... BlackAdder - 26/09/2009 12:30:28 PM 1333 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 26/09/2009 03:44:31 PM 1361 Views
Re: But... Amyrlin Seat - 26/09/2009 04:08:35 PM 1370 Views
She could have not bungled up... fionwe1987 - 26/09/2009 05:17:02 PM 1147 Views
In PoD, it is revealed that Alviarin makes Elaida swear obedience to her. BlackAdder - 26/09/2009 07:48:01 PM 1406 Views
he's saying that. Deadsy - 26/09/2009 10:12:16 PM 1265 Views
She also deposes Alviarin... fionwe1987 - 26/09/2009 10:47:07 PM 1306 Views
Egwene matured a bit, BUT redhand - 24/09/2009 04:51:53 PM 1395 Views
Ever had rancid oil? Kiera - 01/10/2009 08:42:59 PM 2122 Views
Is Alviarin finished? Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:52:31 PM 1512 Views
Two possibilities that come to mind RandAllThor - 24/09/2009 05:11:41 PM 1436 Views
Or Sidious - 24/09/2009 05:45:36 PM 1619 Views
Best idea ^ *NM* Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:27:15 PM 1216 Views
Egwene knows about the letter, and soon the BA hunters will too. Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 07:46:34 PM 1494 Views
She's got to be 'raised' to the shawl first, to take the 4 oaths. AgentOrange - 24/09/2009 10:33:42 PM 1392 Views
No they don't Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 11:03:09 PM 1299 Views
Oh, I thought you meant Elaida's new obedience oath *NM* AgentOrange - 25/09/2009 09:15:48 AM 894 Views
Her part will probably be... Etzel - 24/09/2009 06:06:08 PM 1463 Views
I think her mission has changed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 06:08:11 PM 1232 Views
Re: Is Alviarin finished? Gerbeaud - 24/09/2009 09:08:29 PM 1361 Views
Good 1st chapter of Egwene's plotline! Etzel - 24/09/2009 05:15:32 PM 1453 Views
Painful to listen to Bulgakov - 24/09/2009 05:33:22 PM 1510 Views
Not finished it yet MikeyMikeyMikey - 24/09/2009 05:42:18 PM 1597 Views
WHITE! sue - 24/09/2009 06:20:43 PM 1431 Views
Not White! (spoilers) And Seanchan attack idea. The Angry Druid - 28/09/2009 02:26:06 AM 1468 Views
Yes, Mesaana's plain white dress seems somewhat peculiar Etzel - 24/09/2009 06:43:45 PM 1569 Views
But what if she has no choice but to stay? MikeyMikeyMikey - 24/09/2009 08:02:01 PM 1248 Views
Are you kidding? Moridin would kill her AgentOrange - 24/09/2009 10:50:34 PM 1324 Views
She doesn't.. Etzel - 25/09/2009 06:36:22 AM 1307 Views
I doubt it - I'm of the opinion that Moridin may be next on SH's "personal attentions" list RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/09/2009 05:16:38 PM 1456 Views
If this is true, it could be a ploy BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 03:06:45 AM 1397 Views
Plus, it avoids getting tangled in the Black Ajah hunt BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 03:11:38 AM 1230 Views
I struggle to think of Mesaana as a novice Sidious - 25/09/2009 05:16:57 AM 1416 Views
I disagree Marshall - 25/09/2009 11:08:34 AM 1514 Views
nice idea *NM* Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:29:56 PM 832 Views
I liked it *Spoilers* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 05:49:41 PM 1409 Views
I think... Etzel - 24/09/2009 07:01:42 PM 1586 Views
Re: I think... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 07:33:34 PM 1194 Views
Re: I think... Sidious - 24/09/2009 08:00:09 PM 1550 Views
Wasn't there a high turnover in War of Power as well? Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 08:07:38 PM 1249 Views
Re: Wasn't there a high turnover in War of Power as well? Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:43:22 PM 1415 Views
Chosen have been mindtrapped before Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 04:32:18 PM 1183 Views
Re: I think... Ryan - 25/09/2009 07:25:34 PM 1326 Views
Surely worse happened in the War of Power though before the seals were laid Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 07:58:54 PM 1363 Views
I was totally caught off guard! entyti - 24/09/2009 05:50:39 PM 1403 Views
I all excited! sue - 24/09/2009 06:26:23 PM 1323 Views
Yay Deadsy - 24/09/2009 07:00:41 PM 1582 Views
Egwene is arrogant as ever...thinking Rand can't possibly get along without guidance *NM* Lanfear - 24/09/2009 08:25:24 PM 1071 Views
is she wrong? Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:34:44 PM 1475 Views
The problem is that Egwene isn't honest with herself. Two afterthouts as edits Lanfear - 24/09/2009 08:43:38 PM 1589 Views
Re: The problem is that Egwene isn't honest with herself. Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:46:09 PM 1420 Views
I'm sure Moridin knows how to too Isaac - 27/09/2009 03:59:49 PM 1355 Views
Re: is she wrong? BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 03:38:09 AM 1478 Views
Re: is she wrong? fionwe1987 - 25/09/2009 04:30:28 AM 1261 Views
You're totally wrong Lanfear - 25/09/2009 02:23:27 PM 1426 Views
Re: You're totally wrong Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:32:22 PM 1377 Views
but she was absolutely essential in the successful completion NaClH2O - 29/09/2009 02:55:13 PM 1646 Views
I like Egwene but I didn't like her statement Sidious - 25/09/2009 05:03:33 AM 1549 Views
I agree, and one more reason why I agree Lanfear - 25/09/2009 02:27:44 PM 1488 Views
I disagree in some ways Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:23:35 PM 1243 Views
I agree, and that is Rand's problem in the first place. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/09/2009 07:27:22 PM 1403 Views
Rand should invoke the 'Law of War' against the DO ajfurst - 25/09/2009 06:19:56 AM 1353 Views
She wants part of the glory. *NM* Bulgakov - 25/09/2009 06:31:47 AM 812 Views
What will happen first: black ajah hunt ends or Seanchan attack the WT? Lanfear - 24/09/2009 08:38:43 PM 1537 Views
I can never decide what I think will happen Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:44:03 PM 1425 Views
Re: I can never decide what I think will happen randfandom - 24/09/2009 09:25:18 PM 1387 Views
I disagree, the Rebels are better protected Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 09:36:19 PM 1447 Views
I agree with you. Rebels are harder to take (rebels have Asha'man too) *NM* Lanfear - 24/09/2009 09:59:10 PM 910 Views
So do the Tower Reds, only the Seanchan don't know that yet... Crackbrained Asha'man - 25/09/2009 04:46:17 AM 1337 Views
Yet according to one of Min's visions, Carlinya gets made "property" NaClH2O - 29/09/2009 03:09:28 PM 1235 Views
Re: Yet according to one of Min's visions, Carlinya gets made "property" StinkerSkunk - 29/09/2009 03:23:45 PM 1355 Views
OK, I didn't remember the details correctly NaClH2O - 29/09/2009 03:38:16 PM 1370 Views
Re: OK, I didn't remember the details correctly StinkerSkunk - 29/09/2009 04:11:22 PM 1468 Views
Harnan's tattoo is of a hawk, not a raven NaClH2O - 29/09/2009 04:37:27 PM 1471 Views
Oops. Then no other interpretations. StinkerSkunk - 29/09/2009 04:51:07 PM 1401 Views
Potential for conflicting prophecies? BlackAdder - 26/09/2009 08:49:04 PM 1163 Views
no.. urizen - 26/09/2009 09:12:52 PM 1271 Views
The title of book 13... Etzel - 24/09/2009 09:19:17 PM 1264 Views
Swing and a miss. The Dude - 24/09/2009 10:33:46 PM 1466 Views
As said Etzel - 25/09/2009 06:37:46 AM 1260 Views
Or maybe the fortress in the blight? Isaac - 25/09/2009 12:51:05 PM 1290 Views
Yes, those Towers... Etzel - 25/09/2009 03:10:40 PM 1359 Views
Seems unlikely to me. RandAllThor - 25/09/2009 01:44:27 PM 1376 Views
Yeah, that's possible. Etzel - 25/09/2009 03:11:33 PM 1364 Views
Egwene's surprising decision... Rand al'Thor - 25/09/2009 08:38:51 PM 1213 Views
I think it's an exaggeration Deadsy - 25/09/2009 09:01:22 PM 1333 Views
Re: Egwene's surprising decision... randfandom - 26/09/2009 12:58:51 AM 1389 Views
The Seanchan attack will happen first AgentOrange - 24/09/2009 10:47:50 PM 1244 Views
I think Egwene is building up an immunity to forkroot. *NM* Lanfear - 25/09/2009 02:03:58 AM 905 Views
I'm kinda hoping Mesaana hands them all in a basket to Moridin. BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 02:51:55 AM 1139 Views
Egwene's respect reminds me of Niall's comment to Morgase ajfurst - 25/09/2009 03:39:19 AM 1317 Views
Both at once, I don't think it will be a neat A then B, or B then A ajfurst - 25/09/2009 03:53:30 AM 1353 Views
How would they possibly hear of Turan in Arad Doman? Lanfear - 25/09/2009 02:34:34 PM 1344 Views
Raken - they are used as messengers ajfurst - 25/09/2009 02:43:29 PM 1275 Views
Egwene... surprised me. It was great. fionwe1987 - 24/09/2009 08:49:36 PM 1224 Views
I didn't catch any hints as to Mesaana's identity. Were there any? Lanfear - 24/09/2009 08:51:23 PM 1276 Views
Katerine is Black Ajah Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 10:48:14 PM 1358 Views
Also... this makes me miss RJ even more Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:52:52 PM 1601 Views
I experienced just the opposite Bulgakov - 25/09/2009 06:40:53 AM 1421 Views
Totally disagree Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 06:58:36 AM 1302 Views
This was a truely beautiful chapter *NM* AgentOrange - 24/09/2009 10:22:48 PM 866 Views
Really? CupofDice - 24/09/2009 11:37:59 PM 1319 Views
Daaayyum - when did Elaida become such a baller/shot caller? BlackAdder - 24/09/2009 11:23:41 PM 1275 Views
I can't wait to actually read the chapter-- I thought it was very well written *NM* Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 12:18:48 AM 854 Views
In regards to Alviarin. Heiko - 25/09/2009 01:32:09 AM 1424 Views
Could Elaida pass a 4th Oath? Sidious - 25/09/2009 05:13:08 AM 1350 Views
I think it would serve as motivation for those who say "You don't have to like the Amrylin" to turn. Seriana Sedai - 25/09/2009 06:08:19 AM 1374 Views
The Black Ajah would never stand for it, even if the other sisters would Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 06:38:19 AM 1492 Views
And therein lies Elaida's genius... BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 07:08:48 PM 1452 Views
Re: The Black Ajah would never stand for it, even if the other sisters would Ryan - 26/09/2009 04:45:32 AM 1287 Views
Fain as the source of much of the Tower's woes Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 05:30:49 AM 1309 Views
No one else thinks Fain has had any influence on Elaida's erratic behavior? *NM* Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 05:32:05 PM 894 Views
I agree. Fain is affecting her, for certain. NT *NM* The Angry Druid - 28/09/2009 02:30:45 AM 930 Views
What about Mesaana? Darth_Katie - 25/09/2009 06:03:41 PM 1211 Views
Definitely Mesana-- but I was wondering if the Shadar Logoth taint leaked onto Elaida a little Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 07:43:24 PM 1444 Views
Mat vs Egwene Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:34:35 PM 1341 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 03:38:39 PM 1352 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:40:32 PM 1362 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene Gerbeaud - 25/09/2009 04:16:16 PM 1362 Views
We already saw Mat confront Egwene in Salidar. What more Lanfear - 25/09/2009 04:18:21 PM 1475 Views
Re: We already saw Mat confront Egwene in Salidar. What more Gerbeaud - 25/09/2009 04:37:04 PM 1371 Views
That's not his argument though Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 04:34:35 PM 1191 Views
Ah okay. Sidious - 25/09/2009 04:36:00 PM 1291 Views
She seemed okay with it in KoD Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 04:38:53 PM 1440 Views
I think... Etzel - 25/09/2009 03:47:26 PM 1446 Views
Nice ideas! *NM* Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:51:01 PM 1099 Views
That is really good idea Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 08:12:34 PM 1524 Views
Though... Etzel - 26/09/2009 01:32:18 PM 1393 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene Seriana Sedai - 25/09/2009 06:15:56 PM 1214 Views
egwene and elaida's 4th oath aldapelan - 25/09/2009 03:51:36 PM 1352 Views
Egwene's Hypocrisy here is astounding: The Angry Druid - 29/09/2009 03:39:25 AM 1325 Views
Egwene and Mesaana Darth_Katie - 25/09/2009 06:07:37 PM 1381 Views
Come now...even though Mesaana is whimpy for a Forsaken, she would wipe the floor with Egwene... Shannow - 25/09/2009 06:10:13 PM 1417 Views
Alright, I *may* have overlooked that significant point. Darth_Katie - 25/09/2009 06:21:09 PM 1238 Views
Agreed Sidious - 26/09/2009 06:36:01 AM 1315 Views
Depends on where the battle takes place. TAR = Egwene win. The Angry Druid - 02/10/2009 06:10:07 PM 1404 Views
Egwene would need to lead a circle or use an angreal to beat her. *NM* Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 06:31:42 PM 880 Views
Unless it was based on willpower as in a conflict within Tel'Aran'Rhiod RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/09/2009 07:19:50 PM 1324 Views
Humph. Great Lord of Chaos - 26/09/2009 03:27:09 AM 1261 Views
She was overconfident Rurouni_Kenshin - 26/09/2009 03:24:51 PM 1309 Views
A lie by Elaida? Etzel - 27/09/2009 02:31:36 PM 1526 Views
Re: A lie by Elaida? StinkerSkunk - 27/09/2009 02:50:49 PM 1325 Views
Re: A lie by Elaida? Amyrlin Seat - 27/09/2009 03:01:06 PM 1243 Views
I don't think it covers things like that Isaac - 27/09/2009 04:10:05 PM 1307 Views
She believes what she said *NM* Sidious - 28/09/2009 04:51:52 AM 864 Views
Remember, perspective. Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 12:14:59 AM 1206 Views
It might well be true BlackAdder - 29/09/2009 12:38:20 AM 1312 Views
Well... that elicited quite a reaction. Fanatic-Templar - 28/09/2009 06:25:52 AM 1165 Views
I had many of those same thoughts. Narg - 28/09/2009 05:27:43 PM 1390 Views
Re: I had many of those same thoughts. Watcher - 28/09/2009 06:42:56 PM 1140 Views
Re: I had many of those same thoughts. Knightscape - 28/09/2009 11:08:00 PM 1297 Views
She'll do everything to re-unite the Tower - except anything that could actually re-unite it ajfurst - 29/09/2009 02:26:10 AM 1383 Views
I've just learned to skip any female POV's written by RJ Lord o' Salv - 29/09/2009 04:38:45 AM 1323 Views
Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 29/09/2009 05:30:44 AM 1391 Views
Re: Hmmm.... Fanatic-Templar - 29/09/2009 06:26:17 AM 1383 Views
Ridiculous Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 12:34:07 AM 1196 Views
Very. Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2009 02:40:07 AM 1327 Views
Re: Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 30/09/2009 03:00:01 AM 1298 Views
Re: Hmmm.... Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2009 04:32:14 AM 1358 Views
Re: Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 01/10/2009 03:23:21 AM 1294 Views
Re: Hmmm.... Fanatic-Templar - 01/10/2009 04:51:14 AM 1303 Views
Re: Hmmm.... RandAllThor - 03/10/2009 01:57:24 PM 1620 Views
That's Mesaana's purpose actually *NM* guttering flame - 06/11/2009 07:03:12 AM 808 Views
Elaida, Formidable? Rurouni_Kenshin - 29/09/2009 11:48:04 PM 1372 Views
How do you figure? Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2009 12:15:47 AM 1120 Views
Aside from successfuly orchastrate the coup what has she done? Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 12:35:07 AM 1311 Views
Re: Aside from successfuly orchastrate the coup what has she done? Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2009 02:29:37 AM 1233 Views
Broke the Black Ajah's hold on the Amyrlin seat??????? Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 06:09:08 PM 1207 Views
Ignore *NM* Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 06:20:12 PM 847 Views
Oh yeah, and... Fanatic-Templar - 29/09/2009 04:22:57 AM 1432 Views
Egwene in this chapter... fionwe1987 - 29/09/2009 05:04:35 AM 1356 Views
Re: Egwene in this chapter... Fanatic-Templar - 29/09/2009 05:59:33 AM 1464 Views
Author thoughts - Audiobook versus reading ajfurst - 29/09/2009 05:30:39 AM 1351 Views
Yes, I've felt very much the same *NM* AgentOrange - 29/09/2009 12:52:52 PM 973 Views
A lot of that is the narrator Isaac - 29/09/2009 04:36:47 PM 1406 Views
The Dark One's Touch Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 06:21:24 PM 1440 Views
Good point! *NM* Etzel - 30/09/2009 06:26:51 PM 884 Views
Re: The Dark One's Touch Sidious - 30/09/2009 06:44:53 PM 1207 Views
What about the person who has the ter'angreal dagger? Lanfear - 30/09/2009 07:11:18 PM 1208 Views
Re: What about the person who has the ter'angreal dagger? Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 07:17:06 PM 1431 Views
The Irony of Elaida dadof5 - 30/09/2009 11:10:08 PM 1332 Views
LOL, I agree. Great Lord of Chaos - 01/10/2009 02:47:18 AM 1293 Views
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