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Re: Egwene's surprising decision... randfandom Send a noteboard - 26/09/2009 12:58:51 AM
...perhaps she will step down from the Amyrlin Seat.


Why? She is actually very good at it and is certainly gathering support in the tower.

Perhaps her surprising decision will be to give up on the Oath Rod, once she finds out (from a captured Messana presumably) that it was used for binding criminals in the age of legend. There really is no value in it considering how easy it is to unswear on it, and it is a distinct disadvantage given the vast majority of world channelers do just fine without it.

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Cannoli’s journal of listening to “The Nature of Pain.” Cannoli - 28/09/2009 01:03:35 PM 1885 Views
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I should disagree StinkerSkunk - 26/09/2009 10:34:58 PM 1491 Views
Jordan left tons of background info in notes Rurouni_Kenshin - 27/09/2009 07:36:11 PM 1383 Views
Re: Jordan left tons of background info in notes StinkerSkunk - 27/09/2009 08:10:06 PM 1427 Views
Her entry in Encyclopaedia wot makes no mention of her being amyrlin *NM* NaClH2O - 28/09/2009 01:17:49 AM 936 Views
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Re: Jordan could have easily added that to her backstory after LOC. It's been at least ten years. StinkerSkunk - 28/09/2009 10:04:02 PM 1271 Views
Re: Chapter summary RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 06:50:36 PM 1556 Views
Can someone explain to me where Egwene developed this immense love for the Tower? Shannow - 24/09/2009 04:44:28 PM 1559 Views
Well, she's replaced everything else in her life with the Tower. Darth_Katie - 24/09/2009 04:47:05 PM 1571 Views
I always thought it was the small town thing Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:50:19 PM 1499 Views
Could it be that Fain could have contaminated her in tFOH? AliasRY - 24/09/2009 04:51:56 PM 1439 Views
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I this case, I'm quite forgiving Sidious - 24/09/2009 05:36:59 PM 1431 Views
What has Gawyn done that demonstrates stupidity? Fanatic-Templar - 28/09/2009 05:21:39 AM 1395 Views
Ambitious people are like that redhand - 24/09/2009 05:08:27 PM 1468 Views
Re: Can someone explain to me where Egwene developed this immense love for the Tower? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 06:01:46 PM 1411 Views
I don't think its necessarily for the tower itself FredWeasley - 24/09/2009 08:30:15 PM 1393 Views
This made my morning happy. Darth_Katie - 24/09/2009 04:45:08 PM 1497 Views
I think it's different. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 05:51:11 PM 1526 Views
True. Darth_Katie - 24/09/2009 07:21:36 PM 1562 Views
Re: True. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 1416 Views
I also think Egwene might free them from it once she becomes recognized Amyrlin *NM* Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:36:55 PM 958 Views
Re: I think it's different. BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 03:24:22 AM 1399 Views
There's still a difference... fionwe1987 - 25/09/2009 04:28:55 AM 1316 Views
Re: There's still a difference... BlackAdder - 26/09/2009 12:30:28 PM 1330 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 26/09/2009 03:44:31 PM 1358 Views
Re: But... Amyrlin Seat - 26/09/2009 04:08:35 PM 1367 Views
She could have not bungled up... fionwe1987 - 26/09/2009 05:17:02 PM 1144 Views
In PoD, it is revealed that Alviarin makes Elaida swear obedience to her. BlackAdder - 26/09/2009 07:48:01 PM 1403 Views
he's saying that. Deadsy - 26/09/2009 10:12:16 PM 1262 Views
She also deposes Alviarin... fionwe1987 - 26/09/2009 10:47:07 PM 1301 Views
Egwene matured a bit, BUT redhand - 24/09/2009 04:51:53 PM 1392 Views
Ever had rancid oil? Kiera - 01/10/2009 08:42:59 PM 2119 Views
Is Alviarin finished? Sidious - 24/09/2009 04:52:31 PM 1510 Views
Two possibilities that come to mind RandAllThor - 24/09/2009 05:11:41 PM 1434 Views
Or Sidious - 24/09/2009 05:45:36 PM 1616 Views
Best idea ^ *NM* Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:27:15 PM 1214 Views
Egwene knows about the letter, and soon the BA hunters will too. Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 07:46:34 PM 1491 Views
She's got to be 'raised' to the shawl first, to take the 4 oaths. AgentOrange - 24/09/2009 10:33:42 PM 1390 Views
No they don't Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 11:03:09 PM 1297 Views
Oh, I thought you meant Elaida's new obedience oath *NM* AgentOrange - 25/09/2009 09:15:48 AM 892 Views
Her part will probably be... Etzel - 24/09/2009 06:06:08 PM 1460 Views
I think her mission has changed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 06:08:11 PM 1229 Views
Re: Is Alviarin finished? Gerbeaud - 24/09/2009 09:08:29 PM 1358 Views
Good 1st chapter of Egwene's plotline! Etzel - 24/09/2009 05:15:32 PM 1450 Views
Painful to listen to Bulgakov - 24/09/2009 05:33:22 PM 1508 Views
Not finished it yet MikeyMikeyMikey - 24/09/2009 05:42:18 PM 1595 Views
WHITE! sue - 24/09/2009 06:20:43 PM 1429 Views
Not White! (spoilers) And Seanchan attack idea. The Angry Druid - 28/09/2009 02:26:06 AM 1465 Views
Yes, Mesaana's plain white dress seems somewhat peculiar Etzel - 24/09/2009 06:43:45 PM 1566 Views
But what if she has no choice but to stay? MikeyMikeyMikey - 24/09/2009 08:02:01 PM 1245 Views
Are you kidding? Moridin would kill her AgentOrange - 24/09/2009 10:50:34 PM 1321 Views
She doesn't.. Etzel - 25/09/2009 06:36:22 AM 1305 Views
I doubt it - I'm of the opinion that Moridin may be next on SH's "personal attentions" list RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/09/2009 05:16:38 PM 1453 Views
If this is true, it could be a ploy BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 03:06:45 AM 1395 Views
Plus, it avoids getting tangled in the Black Ajah hunt BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 03:11:38 AM 1228 Views
I struggle to think of Mesaana as a novice Sidious - 25/09/2009 05:16:57 AM 1414 Views
I disagree Marshall - 25/09/2009 11:08:34 AM 1510 Views
nice idea *NM* Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:29:56 PM 829 Views
I liked it *Spoilers* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 05:49:41 PM 1407 Views
I think... Etzel - 24/09/2009 07:01:42 PM 1580 Views
Re: I think... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/09/2009 07:33:34 PM 1192 Views
Re: I think... Sidious - 24/09/2009 08:00:09 PM 1548 Views
Wasn't there a high turnover in War of Power as well? Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 08:07:38 PM 1246 Views
Re: Wasn't there a high turnover in War of Power as well? Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:43:22 PM 1413 Views
Chosen have been mindtrapped before Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 04:32:18 PM 1181 Views
Re: I think... Ryan - 25/09/2009 07:25:34 PM 1324 Views
Surely worse happened in the War of Power though before the seals were laid Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 07:58:54 PM 1361 Views
I was totally caught off guard! entyti - 24/09/2009 05:50:39 PM 1401 Views
I all excited! sue - 24/09/2009 06:26:23 PM 1319 Views
Yay Deadsy - 24/09/2009 07:00:41 PM 1576 Views
Egwene is arrogant as ever...thinking Rand can't possibly get along without guidance *NM* Lanfear - 24/09/2009 08:25:24 PM 1069 Views
is she wrong? Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:34:44 PM 1472 Views
The problem is that Egwene isn't honest with herself. Two afterthouts as edits Lanfear - 24/09/2009 08:43:38 PM 1585 Views
Re: The problem is that Egwene isn't honest with herself. Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:46:09 PM 1417 Views
I'm sure Moridin knows how to too Isaac - 27/09/2009 03:59:49 PM 1353 Views
Re: is she wrong? BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 03:38:09 AM 1476 Views
Re: is she wrong? fionwe1987 - 25/09/2009 04:30:28 AM 1258 Views
You're totally wrong Lanfear - 25/09/2009 02:23:27 PM 1422 Views
Re: You're totally wrong Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:32:22 PM 1371 Views
but she was absolutely essential in the successful completion NaClH2O - 29/09/2009 02:55:13 PM 1644 Views
I like Egwene but I didn't like her statement Sidious - 25/09/2009 05:03:33 AM 1543 Views
I agree, and one more reason why I agree Lanfear - 25/09/2009 02:27:44 PM 1484 Views
I disagree in some ways Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:23:35 PM 1241 Views
I agree, and that is Rand's problem in the first place. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/09/2009 07:27:22 PM 1401 Views
Rand should invoke the 'Law of War' against the DO ajfurst - 25/09/2009 06:19:56 AM 1351 Views
She wants part of the glory. *NM* Bulgakov - 25/09/2009 06:31:47 AM 810 Views
What will happen first: black ajah hunt ends or Seanchan attack the WT? Lanfear - 24/09/2009 08:38:43 PM 1534 Views
I can never decide what I think will happen Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:44:03 PM 1423 Views
Re: I can never decide what I think will happen randfandom - 24/09/2009 09:25:18 PM 1384 Views
I disagree, the Rebels are better protected Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 09:36:19 PM 1444 Views
I agree with you. Rebels are harder to take (rebels have Asha'man too) *NM* Lanfear - 24/09/2009 09:59:10 PM 907 Views
So do the Tower Reds, only the Seanchan don't know that yet... Crackbrained Asha'man - 25/09/2009 04:46:17 AM 1335 Views
Yet according to one of Min's visions, Carlinya gets made "property" NaClH2O - 29/09/2009 03:09:28 PM 1232 Views
Re: Yet according to one of Min's visions, Carlinya gets made "property" StinkerSkunk - 29/09/2009 03:23:45 PM 1353 Views
OK, I didn't remember the details correctly NaClH2O - 29/09/2009 03:38:16 PM 1368 Views
Re: OK, I didn't remember the details correctly StinkerSkunk - 29/09/2009 04:11:22 PM 1466 Views
Harnan's tattoo is of a hawk, not a raven NaClH2O - 29/09/2009 04:37:27 PM 1469 Views
Oops. Then no other interpretations. StinkerSkunk - 29/09/2009 04:51:07 PM 1399 Views
Potential for conflicting prophecies? BlackAdder - 26/09/2009 08:49:04 PM 1160 Views
no.. urizen - 26/09/2009 09:12:52 PM 1267 Views
The title of book 13... Etzel - 24/09/2009 09:19:17 PM 1262 Views
Swing and a miss. The Dude - 24/09/2009 10:33:46 PM 1462 Views
As said Etzel - 25/09/2009 06:37:46 AM 1257 Views
Or maybe the fortress in the blight? Isaac - 25/09/2009 12:51:05 PM 1288 Views
Yes, those Towers... Etzel - 25/09/2009 03:10:40 PM 1357 Views
Seems unlikely to me. RandAllThor - 25/09/2009 01:44:27 PM 1374 Views
Yeah, that's possible. Etzel - 25/09/2009 03:11:33 PM 1362 Views
Egwene's surprising decision... Rand al'Thor - 25/09/2009 08:38:51 PM 1211 Views
I think it's an exaggeration Deadsy - 25/09/2009 09:01:22 PM 1330 Views
Re: Egwene's surprising decision... randfandom - 26/09/2009 12:58:51 AM 1386 Views
The Seanchan attack will happen first AgentOrange - 24/09/2009 10:47:50 PM 1240 Views
I think Egwene is building up an immunity to forkroot. *NM* Lanfear - 25/09/2009 02:03:58 AM 902 Views
I'm kinda hoping Mesaana hands them all in a basket to Moridin. BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 02:51:55 AM 1136 Views
Egwene's respect reminds me of Niall's comment to Morgase ajfurst - 25/09/2009 03:39:19 AM 1314 Views
Both at once, I don't think it will be a neat A then B, or B then A ajfurst - 25/09/2009 03:53:30 AM 1351 Views
How would they possibly hear of Turan in Arad Doman? Lanfear - 25/09/2009 02:34:34 PM 1341 Views
Raken - they are used as messengers ajfurst - 25/09/2009 02:43:29 PM 1271 Views
Egwene... surprised me. It was great. fionwe1987 - 24/09/2009 08:49:36 PM 1222 Views
I didn't catch any hints as to Mesaana's identity. Were there any? Lanfear - 24/09/2009 08:51:23 PM 1274 Views
Katerine is Black Ajah Rurouni_Kenshin - 24/09/2009 10:48:14 PM 1353 Views
Also... this makes me miss RJ even more Deadsy - 24/09/2009 08:52:52 PM 1599 Views
I experienced just the opposite Bulgakov - 25/09/2009 06:40:53 AM 1419 Views
Totally disagree Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 06:58:36 AM 1300 Views
This was a truely beautiful chapter *NM* AgentOrange - 24/09/2009 10:22:48 PM 864 Views
Really? CupofDice - 24/09/2009 11:37:59 PM 1317 Views
Daaayyum - when did Elaida become such a baller/shot caller? BlackAdder - 24/09/2009 11:23:41 PM 1272 Views
I can't wait to actually read the chapter-- I thought it was very well written *NM* Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 12:18:48 AM 851 Views
In regards to Alviarin. Heiko - 25/09/2009 01:32:09 AM 1421 Views
Could Elaida pass a 4th Oath? Sidious - 25/09/2009 05:13:08 AM 1344 Views
I think it would serve as motivation for those who say "You don't have to like the Amrylin" to turn. Seriana Sedai - 25/09/2009 06:08:19 AM 1369 Views
The Black Ajah would never stand for it, even if the other sisters would Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 06:38:19 AM 1489 Views
And therein lies Elaida's genius... BlackAdder - 25/09/2009 07:08:48 PM 1450 Views
Re: The Black Ajah would never stand for it, even if the other sisters would Ryan - 26/09/2009 04:45:32 AM 1283 Views
Fain as the source of much of the Tower's woes Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 05:30:49 AM 1307 Views
No one else thinks Fain has had any influence on Elaida's erratic behavior? *NM* Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 05:32:05 PM 891 Views
I agree. Fain is affecting her, for certain. NT *NM* The Angry Druid - 28/09/2009 02:30:45 AM 928 Views
What about Mesaana? Darth_Katie - 25/09/2009 06:03:41 PM 1209 Views
Definitely Mesana-- but I was wondering if the Shadar Logoth taint leaked onto Elaida a little Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 07:43:24 PM 1440 Views
Mat vs Egwene Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:34:35 PM 1338 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 03:38:39 PM 1350 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:40:32 PM 1360 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene Gerbeaud - 25/09/2009 04:16:16 PM 1360 Views
We already saw Mat confront Egwene in Salidar. What more Lanfear - 25/09/2009 04:18:21 PM 1471 Views
Re: We already saw Mat confront Egwene in Salidar. What more Gerbeaud - 25/09/2009 04:37:04 PM 1368 Views
That's not his argument though Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 04:34:35 PM 1189 Views
Ah okay. Sidious - 25/09/2009 04:36:00 PM 1288 Views
She seemed okay with it in KoD Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 04:38:53 PM 1438 Views
I think... Etzel - 25/09/2009 03:47:26 PM 1442 Views
Nice ideas! *NM* Sidious - 25/09/2009 03:51:01 PM 1096 Views
That is really good idea Matrimony Cauthon - 25/09/2009 08:12:34 PM 1521 Views
Though... Etzel - 26/09/2009 01:32:18 PM 1391 Views
Re: Mat vs Egwene Seriana Sedai - 25/09/2009 06:15:56 PM 1210 Views
egwene and elaida's 4th oath aldapelan - 25/09/2009 03:51:36 PM 1349 Views
Egwene's Hypocrisy here is astounding: The Angry Druid - 29/09/2009 03:39:25 AM 1322 Views
Egwene and Mesaana Darth_Katie - 25/09/2009 06:07:37 PM 1379 Views
Come now...even though Mesaana is whimpy for a Forsaken, she would wipe the floor with Egwene... Shannow - 25/09/2009 06:10:13 PM 1415 Views
Alright, I *may* have overlooked that significant point. Darth_Katie - 25/09/2009 06:21:09 PM 1233 Views
Agreed Sidious - 26/09/2009 06:36:01 AM 1311 Views
Depends on where the battle takes place. TAR = Egwene win. The Angry Druid - 02/10/2009 06:10:07 PM 1402 Views
Egwene would need to lead a circle or use an angreal to beat her. *NM* Rurouni_Kenshin - 25/09/2009 06:31:42 PM 877 Views
Unless it was based on willpower as in a conflict within Tel'Aran'Rhiod RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/09/2009 07:19:50 PM 1322 Views
Humph. Great Lord of Chaos - 26/09/2009 03:27:09 AM 1259 Views
She was overconfident Rurouni_Kenshin - 26/09/2009 03:24:51 PM 1306 Views
A lie by Elaida? Etzel - 27/09/2009 02:31:36 PM 1521 Views
Re: A lie by Elaida? StinkerSkunk - 27/09/2009 02:50:49 PM 1320 Views
Re: A lie by Elaida? Amyrlin Seat - 27/09/2009 03:01:06 PM 1241 Views
I don't think it covers things like that Isaac - 27/09/2009 04:10:05 PM 1304 Views
She believes what she said *NM* Sidious - 28/09/2009 04:51:52 AM 862 Views
Remember, perspective. Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 12:14:59 AM 1204 Views
It might well be true BlackAdder - 29/09/2009 12:38:20 AM 1307 Views
Well... that elicited quite a reaction. Fanatic-Templar - 28/09/2009 06:25:52 AM 1162 Views
I had many of those same thoughts. Narg - 28/09/2009 05:27:43 PM 1388 Views
Re: I had many of those same thoughts. Watcher - 28/09/2009 06:42:56 PM 1136 Views
Re: I had many of those same thoughts. Knightscape - 28/09/2009 11:08:00 PM 1295 Views
She'll do everything to re-unite the Tower - except anything that could actually re-unite it ajfurst - 29/09/2009 02:26:10 AM 1381 Views
I've just learned to skip any female POV's written by RJ Lord o' Salv - 29/09/2009 04:38:45 AM 1321 Views
Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 29/09/2009 05:30:44 AM 1389 Views
Re: Hmmm.... Fanatic-Templar - 29/09/2009 06:26:17 AM 1381 Views
Ridiculous Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 12:34:07 AM 1194 Views
Very. Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2009 02:40:07 AM 1324 Views
Re: Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 30/09/2009 03:00:01 AM 1296 Views
Re: Hmmm.... Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2009 04:32:14 AM 1355 Views
Re: Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 01/10/2009 03:23:21 AM 1290 Views
Re: Hmmm.... Fanatic-Templar - 01/10/2009 04:51:14 AM 1301 Views
Re: Hmmm.... RandAllThor - 03/10/2009 01:57:24 PM 1615 Views
That's Mesaana's purpose actually *NM* guttering flame - 06/11/2009 07:03:12 AM 806 Views
Elaida, Formidable? Rurouni_Kenshin - 29/09/2009 11:48:04 PM 1370 Views
How do you figure? Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2009 12:15:47 AM 1118 Views
Aside from successfuly orchastrate the coup what has she done? Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 12:35:07 AM 1309 Views
Re: Aside from successfuly orchastrate the coup what has she done? Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2009 02:29:37 AM 1231 Views
Broke the Black Ajah's hold on the Amyrlin seat??????? Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 06:09:08 PM 1205 Views
Ignore *NM* Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 06:20:12 PM 845 Views
Oh yeah, and... Fanatic-Templar - 29/09/2009 04:22:57 AM 1428 Views
Egwene in this chapter... fionwe1987 - 29/09/2009 05:04:35 AM 1354 Views
Re: Egwene in this chapter... Fanatic-Templar - 29/09/2009 05:59:33 AM 1462 Views
Author thoughts - Audiobook versus reading ajfurst - 29/09/2009 05:30:39 AM 1349 Views
Yes, I've felt very much the same *NM* AgentOrange - 29/09/2009 12:52:52 PM 970 Views
A lot of that is the narrator Isaac - 29/09/2009 04:36:47 PM 1404 Views
The Dark One's Touch Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 06:21:24 PM 1438 Views
Good point! *NM* Etzel - 30/09/2009 06:26:51 PM 882 Views
Re: The Dark One's Touch Sidious - 30/09/2009 06:44:53 PM 1204 Views
What about the person who has the ter'angreal dagger? Lanfear - 30/09/2009 07:11:18 PM 1205 Views
Re: What about the person who has the ter'angreal dagger? Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2009 07:17:06 PM 1429 Views
The Irony of Elaida dadof5 - 30/09/2009 11:10:08 PM 1330 Views
LOL, I agree. Great Lord of Chaos - 01/10/2009 02:47:18 AM 1289 Views
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