Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications
Great Lord of Chaos Send a noteboard - 25/10/2012 05:13:43 AM
3. Androl draws on Pevara's ability and starts to lift objects in the room. Most interestingly she cannot see the weaves even though he's weaving with saidar too. I was wondering whether this was a mistake. When Sammael linked with Graendal the Shaido Wise Ones said that she was weaving a barrier. He was using saidar and they could see it, though this chapter implies that if a male leads a circle he actually uses saidar to reinforce his weaves. In a way he 'converts' it to saidin... Pevara even wonders if he is filtering it.
Women can't see male weaves, and vice versa, but the leader of the circle can see both. The Wise Ones could only see the saidar, and therefore assumed that Graendal was weaving. Sammael, being far more experienced with the True Source, could probably weave saidar in a competent manner.
Ὦ ξεῖν', ἀγγέλλειν Λακεδαιμονίοις ὅτι τῇδε
κείμεθα, τοῖς κείνων ῥήμασι πειθόμενοι.
κείμεθα, τοῖς κείνων ῥήμασι πειθόμενοι.
Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications
- 24/10/2012 06:40:47 PM
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Did Perva actually initiate the link or was it Androl? *NM*
- 24/10/2012 07:02:15 PM
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Androl did. *NM*
- 25/10/2012 05:10:31 AM
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But didn't Nynaeve do it first at the cleansing?
- 25/10/2012 12:43:15 PM
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Pevara was thinking on very sketchy information.
- 25/10/2012 08:56:20 PM
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Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications
- 25/10/2012 05:13:43 AM
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Travelling
- 25/10/2012 08:56:41 AM
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Yes that's a pet theory of mine
- 25/10/2012 04:21:53 PM
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Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine
- 25/10/2012 06:12:21 PM
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Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine
- 25/10/2012 08:50:15 PM
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Perhaps, but if no on in the AoL could do it when mixed circles were common
- 28/10/2012 04:22:20 PM
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How strong Pevara is...
- 25/10/2012 07:08:26 PM
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I'm pretty sure Moiraine is closer to 30...
- 25/10/2012 07:41:37 PM
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Agreed
- 25/10/2012 08:37:24 PM
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That was disproved long ago...
- 26/10/2012 01:36:24 AM
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But Moiraine isn't 'exceptionally strong'
- 26/10/2012 05:16:10 AM
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Not particularly strong evidence for that last.
- 26/10/2012 05:36:54 AM
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But we know that it takes significantly more strength to maintain multiple weaves
- 26/10/2012 08:14:58 AM
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The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 10:27:34 AM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 11:40:04 AM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 12:32:01 PM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 12:48:51 PM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 01:07:39 PM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 01:18:32 PM
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Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same
- 27/10/2012 09:39:58 PM
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The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same...
- 28/10/2012 01:50:37 AM
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Re: The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same...
- 28/10/2012 02:01:59 PM
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You need to go read RJ's quotes:
- 28/10/2012 02:41:49 PM
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Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes:
- 28/10/2012 05:39:12 PM
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I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies.
- 28/10/2012 05:56:21 PM
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Re: I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies.
- 28/10/2012 07:44:02 PM
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This is like watching a train-wreck.
- 29/10/2012 02:58:51 AM
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Re: This is like watching a train-wreck.
- 29/10/2012 01:10:35 PM
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So what's your conclusion?
- 29/10/2012 02:14:33 PM
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you do realize that is an impossible question to answer from the books right?
- 29/10/2012 07:50:02 PM
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Excellent points...
- 29/10/2012 02:16:39 PM
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Re: Excellent points...
- 29/10/2012 02:47:30 PM
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You seem confused.
- 29/10/2012 03:22:47 PM
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Re: You seem confused.
- 29/10/2012 03:41:48 PM
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I think the point is that the AS didn't go force every woman in the area
- 29/10/2012 07:57:59 PM
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Re: You seem confused.
- 29/10/2012 08:23:22 PM
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Re: You seem confused.
- 29/10/2012 08:57:11 PM
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He drew graphs!
- 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM
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He drew graphs!
- 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM
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Re: Excellent points...
- 30/10/2012 12:20:00 AM
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Re: Excellent points...
- 30/10/2012 07:49:57 AM
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Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes:
- 29/10/2012 02:23:27 AM
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Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes:
- 29/10/2012 07:33:44 AM
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Huh?
- 29/10/2012 02:26:27 PM
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Re: Huh?
- 29/10/2012 02:42:07 PM
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You don't seem to know what random means...
- 29/10/2012 03:25:57 PM
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Re: You don't seem to know what random means...
- 29/10/2012 03:36:45 PM
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Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop
- 29/10/2012 08:05:33 PM
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Re: Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop
- 29/10/2012 09:04:02 PM
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Geography alone can do this
- 30/10/2012 12:39:53 AM
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Here's why its not random...
- 30/10/2012 01:04:18 AM
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Re: Here's why its not random...
- 30/10/2012 09:42:35 AM
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Re: Here's why its not random...
- 30/10/2012 01:51:03 PM
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Re: You don't seem to know what random means...
- 29/10/2012 08:22:40 PM
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Re: You don't seem to know what random means...
- 29/10/2012 09:06:08 PM
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Why must there be a mechanism?
- 30/10/2012 01:06:29 AM
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Re: Why must there be a mechanism?
- 30/10/2012 09:48:16 AM
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Nope...
- 30/10/2012 01:43:56 PM
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Re: Nope...
- 30/10/2012 02:34:51 PM
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Oh my...
- 30/10/2012 02:50:12 PM
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Thought experment time! Hurrah!
- 30/10/2012 03:27:01 PM
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But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results
- 30/10/2012 03:30:59 PM
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Re: But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results
- 30/10/2012 03:36:03 PM
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Re: Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same
- 28/10/2012 01:39:55 PM
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The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories
- 28/10/2012 04:18:55 PM
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Re: The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories
- 28/10/2012 05:21:44 PM
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The curve hasn't shifted!
- 28/10/2012 05:39:42 PM
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The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength.
- 28/10/2012 06:02:04 PM
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Re: The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength.
- 28/10/2012 07:27:26 PM
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There is not a single quote in the series that states Moiraine is less than half the strength
- 28/10/2012 10:31:28 PM
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How is this fact?
- 29/10/2012 02:59:49 AM
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Re: How is this fact?
- 29/10/2012 07:04:15 PM
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Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then...
- 29/10/2012 08:20:14 PM
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Re: Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then...
- 29/10/2012 08:38:11 PM
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Are you blind man?
- 30/10/2012 01:12:26 AM
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Re: The curve hasn't shifted!
- 28/10/2012 07:36:36 PM
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Well the most obvious thing is that RJ was quoted on the subject any number of times
- 28/10/2012 11:34:18 PM
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On Raw strength scores I think you are pretty inline with my thinking
- 27/10/2012 09:37:25 PM
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