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*shrug* darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 07/12/2012 09:25:00 PM
not sure how it can be more clear than this statement:

"Personally I think those circles needed to be significantly Stronger than an individual Forsaken for the Rand's people to have survived."
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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I really hate to bring up strength in the OP, but thankfully it doesn't regard Egwene or any women. DREWRULESWOT! - 04/12/2012 06:01:45 AM 1826 Views
My thoughts Sidious - 04/12/2012 07:15:44 AM 1258 Views
90 is REALLY high DREWRULESWOT! - 04/12/2012 07:25:15 AM 1214 Views
Couple of things ... **reminder that this is a lot of speculation** darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 04:29:50 PM 1192 Views
Narishma is definitely stronger, you're right. DREWRULESWOT! - 07/12/2012 03:00:53 AM 1104 Views
He was stronger than Aginor in order to channel the power of the Eye darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 03:00:10 PM 1098 Views
No I don't think so Sidious - 07/12/2012 04:13:48 PM 985 Views
I'd say more than 80 darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 07:07:32 PM 945 Views
81 then Sidious - 07/12/2012 08:11:34 PM 870 Views
and that's just YOUR theory Sidius darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 09:13:42 PM 933 Views
Re: and that's just YOUR theory Sidius Sidious - 07/12/2012 10:14:53 PM 964 Views
there were more like MILLIONS of Forsaken during these times darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 10:30:34 PM 948 Views
Re: and that's just YOUR theory Sidius RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2012 08:44:51 PM 776 Views
Aginors defeat could be a result of multiple factors. So can Ishmaels Onarishma - 07/12/2012 01:24:18 PM 1003 Views
Regardless, Rand was clearly in the same strength category when Aginor and he faced off darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 03:03:04 PM 994 Views
I disagree. Onarishma - 07/12/2012 06:55:43 PM 878 Views
Aginor burned out trying to use the Eye in the real world darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 07:12:44 PM 934 Views
Re: Aginor burned out trying to use the Eye in the real world Onarishma - 07/12/2012 07:51:37 PM 895 Views
he faced Asmodean strength for strength before Rahvin darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 09:23:42 PM 989 Views
Just to be a bitch Sidious - 07/12/2012 10:17:11 PM 840 Views
you don't actually have to tell us all you are a bitch darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 10:36:25 PM 984 Views
*NM* Sidious - 08/12/2012 06:22:49 AM 817 Views
He didn't face Asmodean he chased him and wrestled him over a sa'angreal. Onarishma - 10/12/2012 11:16:18 PM 1017 Views
Asmo hurled plenty of stuff at Rand during the "Chase" it wasnt all that much different darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 03:16:36 AM 897 Views
I disagree with your plenty cause no one was TRYING to crush him. *NM* Onarishma - 11/12/2012 07:13:12 PM 540 Views
as I said before ... your interpretations are yours to have ... as are mine. *NM* darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 09:16:36 PM 456 Views
think youre misjudgjng the benefits of the link. they dont have to add up to 90. Onarishma - 07/12/2012 12:34:59 PM 939 Views
There is also no why to tell if Flinn hit Demandred with all the strength available to him either darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 03:05:38 PM 916 Views
the "circle" was stronger but the individuals weren't *NM* Onarishma - 07/12/2012 06:58:38 PM 567 Views
that's what I just said *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 07:23:34 PM 502 Views
that was not clear *NM* Onarishma - 07/12/2012 07:43:54 PM 591 Views
*shrug* darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 09:25:00 PM 824 Views
Re: *shrug* Onarishma - 10/12/2012 11:27:42 PM 936 Views
If I had said the individuals in the circle added to Dmandreds strength perhaps darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 03:28:23 AM 963 Views
in the context of this discussion you did not distinguish between the effective strength and Onarishma - 11/12/2012 07:10:48 PM 858 Views
whatever ... didn't think it was necessary ... and with that I'm done darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 09:16:03 PM 845 Views
Onarishma - 17/12/2012 11:22:55 PM 1149 Views
About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 12:37:38 AM 1078 Views
Perhaps darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 01:01:21 AM 896 Views
Re: Perhaps fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 02:06:39 AM 958 Views
Like I said ... Could be darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:33:43 AM 941 Views
I disagree... fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 04:53:09 AM 879 Views
Re: I disagree... darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 05:20:08 AM 825 Views
I disagree again! fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 05:49:15 AM 899 Views
Probably darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:46:15 PM 928 Views
Re: Probably fionwe1987 - 09/12/2012 07:51:59 PM 940 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 09/12/2012 10:13:07 PM 863 Views
Re: Not really fionwe1987 - 10/12/2012 01:05:54 AM 878 Views
Re: Not really darius_sedai - 13/12/2012 03:58:48 PM 960 Views
I don't think the Forsaken are good examples Sidious - 08/12/2012 06:18:45 AM 933 Views
We're essentially saying the same thing now darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:37:17 PM 883 Views
Re: I don't think the Forsaken are good examples RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2012 08:08:21 PM 814 Views
Always thought the forsaken didn't really know much about Rand TheCrownless - 08/12/2012 02:38:08 AM 955 Views
And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:43:15 AM 885 Views
Re: And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed TheCrownless - 08/12/2012 05:34:54 AM 949 Views
Who can say. Graendal wraps them so deep in compulsion that she can dig darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 05:42:39 AM 925 Views
I don't think they could have had a clear idea of his strength eary in the series... Narg - 08/12/2012 09:34:36 AM 1034 Views
Re: I don't think they could have had a clear idea of his strength eary in the series... darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:54:08 PM 851 Views
Oops, double post. *NM* Narg - 08/12/2012 09:34:36 AM 577 Views
Re: About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: Dunstan - 11/12/2012 11:36:51 PM 931 Views
Re: Rand v Aginor Watcher - 16/12/2012 01:46:08 PM 877 Views
Not a bad theory and I've read it before darius_sedai - 16/12/2012 07:42:31 PM 831 Views
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