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Some questions fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 06/12/2015 12:28:46 AM

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This site has always been obsessed with power levels; it's amusing to see how many comments are on this post. I have never cared very much about power levels, and Dom said he never cared much either, but once we got our hands on the notes and saw all the detail on power rankings, making a list was just too tempting. So I guess the obsession rubbed off on me through Dom...

Glad you got pulled into this. While ultimately meaningless, I always found the OP strength thing a fun little debate to discuss. That said, maybe you can clarify some things we've been debating here:

1) We know a woman at level one more or less equals a man at level ++1, things like skill, etc. being equal. Does this carry on down the scale? Is there functional equivalency between levels 2 and ++2, 11 and 5, 66 and 60, and so on?

2) The female dexterity advantage: I believe there's no way RJ would have needlessly complicated things by making that advantage be on a scale, so that a stronger woman has a larger advantage than a weaker one. I think its a constant boost for all women. Did you see any hints that point to one or the other?

Thanks!

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Sortable, searchable file of Channelers darius_sedai - 28/11/2015 10:01:57 PM 3541 Views
Outstanding job Sidious - 29/11/2015 04:15:17 PM 1286 Views
Re: Outstanding job darius_sedai - 29/11/2015 06:53:40 PM 1259 Views
Very impressive. Well done. Cannoli - 29/11/2015 04:41:52 PM 1428 Views
Re: Very impressive. Well done. darius_sedai - 29/11/2015 06:54:02 PM 1296 Views
Quick Question gban007 - 30/11/2015 05:11:17 AM 1436 Views
Nope fionwe1987 - 30/11/2015 05:44:04 AM 1450 Views
They do say it Sidious - 30/11/2015 10:32:48 AM 1613 Views
I added Rand and Lews Therin to the ++1 Strength darius_sedai - 30/11/2015 03:21:00 PM 1289 Views
Re: I added Rand and Lews Therin to the ++1 Strength Sidious - 01/12/2015 08:02:01 AM 1405 Views
Well, it also states that there are gradations within each level too darius_sedai - 01/12/2015 04:26:29 PM 1431 Views
Well maybe Sidious - 02/12/2015 06:31:05 AM 1425 Views
Here's how I see it: fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 08:34:54 AM 1438 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 04:22:52 PM 1445 Views
Re: I agree DomA - 02/12/2015 05:14:50 PM 1607 Views
It's always been confusing darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 06:00:01 PM 1582 Views
Re: It's always been confusing DomA - 02/12/2015 07:27:11 PM 1542 Views
I wholeheartedly agree darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 08:07:39 PM 1355 Views
Re: Here's how I see it: DomA - 02/12/2015 04:46:54 PM 1601 Views
Morgase Sidious - 03/12/2015 04:37:47 AM 1482 Views
I agree with you on this darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 03:22:22 PM 1284 Views
Re: Morgase DomA - 03/12/2015 07:46:59 PM 1580 Views
I didn't realize he was being literal in that comment darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 09:29:52 PM 1409 Views
Re: I didn't realize he was being literal in that comment DomA - 04/12/2015 08:41:51 PM 1325 Views
I don't know about RJ's issues, but the White Tower's waste always seemed like a minor theme there Cannoli - 04/12/2015 09:05:08 PM 1379 Views
Yes the Aes Sedai are all about "the glory of being Aes Sedai" kind of like religious cults darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 07:47:34 PM 1297 Views
Too bad he also wrote in contingencies darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 07:45:26 PM 1257 Views
Re: Well maybe darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 03:52:49 PM 1529 Views
Re: Well maybe Sidious - 02/12/2015 04:42:37 PM 1587 Views
Probably darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 06:11:42 PM 1349 Views
Re: Probably DomA - 02/12/2015 07:38:50 PM 1463 Views
Indeed darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 08:21:07 PM 1329 Views
Re: Indeed Sidious - 03/12/2015 04:08:03 AM 1292 Views
close enough to not debate about it darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 03:47:55 PM 1304 Views
Re: close enough to not debate about it fionwe1987 - 03/12/2015 04:14:38 PM 1297 Views
I think you misunderstand what I'm saying darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 04:43:29 PM 1351 Views
Re: I think you misunderstand what I'm saying fionwe1987 - 03/12/2015 05:41:17 PM 1377 Views
um, no darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 09:24:31 PM 1292 Views
You two seem like Egwene's interchangeable defenders to me; it's weird to see you fighting. Cannoli - 04/12/2015 09:21:23 PM 1636 Views
That's on you... fionwe1987 - 04/12/2015 09:46:51 PM 1322 Views
We've been arguing on the forums for like 10 years darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 07:36:55 PM 1265 Views
It's Cannoli, Darius fionwe1987 - 06/12/2015 08:53:06 PM 1269 Views
LOL *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 03:26:40 AM 796 Views
Some points Sidious - 05/12/2015 11:14:30 AM 1285 Views
Re: close enough to not debate about it Sidious - 05/12/2015 11:29:44 AM 1343 Views
Re: I added Rand and Lews Therin to the ++1 Strength gban007 - 03/12/2015 07:22:15 AM 1251 Views
Great job fionwe1987 - 30/11/2015 05:45:27 AM 1304 Views
Re: Great job darius_sedai - 30/11/2015 03:22:09 PM 1297 Views
Made a few adjustments to add some presumed minimum/maximum levels *NM* darius_sedai - 30/11/2015 04:28:13 PM 871 Views
Some questions fionwe1987 - 30/11/2015 05:18:00 PM 1281 Views
Re: Some questions darius_sedai - 30/11/2015 07:26:29 PM 1294 Views
Re: Some questions Sidious - 01/12/2015 08:05:01 AM 1478 Views
That's why I added another column to it darius_sedai - 01/12/2015 04:25:04 PM 1359 Views
Some more fionwe1987 - 01/12/2015 05:24:40 PM 1378 Views
Re: Some more darius_sedai - 01/12/2015 07:34:20 PM 1401 Views
Re: Some more fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 12:27:40 AM 1417 Views
Re: Some more darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 02:26:53 AM 1337 Views
Re: Some more fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 08:24:49 AM 1388 Views
Re: Some more darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 05:54:49 PM 1425 Views
Re: Some more Sidious - 03/12/2015 04:26:45 AM 1236 Views
You said this much better than I did darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 03:53:57 PM 1287 Views
I think the men are much too strong Sidious - 02/12/2015 09:01:56 AM 1451 Views
Yes fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 03:06:44 PM 1285 Views
Re: Yes Sidious - 02/12/2015 04:45:20 PM 1397 Views
Re: Yes darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 06:39:43 PM 1447 Views
Re: Yes Sidious - 03/12/2015 03:56:23 AM 1239 Views
I think when characters quoted information from their world it gets muddled darius_sedai - 03/12/2015 04:19:43 PM 1355 Views
Shielding Sidious - 05/12/2015 11:19:40 AM 1210 Views
I feel like there is an RJ quote about this actually darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 06:41:35 PM 1229 Views
Re: I feel like there is an RJ quote about this actually Sidious - 07/12/2015 12:39:54 PM 1288 Views
seriously! darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 04:55:43 PM 1284 Views
Who should defer to whom? darius_sedai - 01/12/2015 08:17:22 PM 1439 Views
Interesting... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2015 08:44:32 AM 1437 Views
I think there needs to be a pretty significant (5+ levels) difference darius_sedai - 02/12/2015 06:25:35 PM 1447 Views
Good job Terez - 05/12/2015 08:43:09 PM 1817 Views
Some questions fionwe1987 - 06/12/2015 12:28:46 AM 1294 Views
Can't offer much Terez - 06/12/2015 12:33:29 AM 1619 Views
Cool. Hopefully Dom will see this... fionwe1987 - 06/12/2015 08:58:39 PM 1219 Views
Re: Some questions darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 08:06:56 PM 1256 Views
Then there would be some mention of it, yes/ fionwe1987 - 06/12/2015 08:56:10 PM 1245 Views
Not at all ... He clearly had a general sense of how it worked darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 03:28:35 AM 1189 Views
Re: Some questions DomA - 07/12/2015 04:19:43 PM 1518 Views
yet we also know that some things are inherently different for men and women darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 08:15:26 PM 1206 Views
it probably has to do with the fact that the characters in the books are also obsessed with strength darius_sedai - 06/12/2015 07:58:20 PM 1315 Views
Sort of. Terez - 06/12/2015 10:30:36 PM 1799 Views
Makes sense fionwe1987 - 07/12/2015 12:38:54 AM 1218 Views
Clearly his strength rankings came in mid-series darius_sedai - 07/12/2015 07:39:59 PM 1443 Views
Re: Clearly his strength rankings came in mid-series Sidious - 10/12/2015 05:33:27 AM 1256 Views
Probably something along those lines darius_sedai - 10/12/2015 03:44:48 PM 1159 Views
Lifespan question (Spoiler) darius_sedai - 08/12/2015 05:42:41 PM 1205 Views
Moiraine... fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 02:28:50 AM 1287 Views
That too is possible darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 03:02:12 PM 1227 Views
Some random trends/data points darius_sedai - 08/12/2015 08:39:14 PM 1238 Views
Who is the one Sharan? And I'm surprised so many Seanchan have listed strength levels. *NM* fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 02:42:51 AM 813 Views
Re: Who is the one Sharan? And I'm surprised so many Seanchan have listed strength levels. darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 02:31:18 PM 1320 Views
Not sure she can channel, though fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 03:22:17 PM 1143 Views
Re: Not sure she can channel, though darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 04:54:37 PM 1300 Views
duplicate post ignore *NM* darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 02:31:36 PM 736 Views
duplicate post ignore *NM* darius_sedai - 09/12/2015 02:31:55 PM 762 Views
so.... Sidious - 09/12/2015 06:10:41 AM 1295 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 03:24:07 PM 1283 Views
Yes Sidious - 09/12/2015 03:46:30 PM 1207 Views
Some things to consider fionwe1987 - 09/12/2015 04:18:50 PM 1219 Views
Re: Some things to consider Sidious - 10/12/2015 05:43:35 AM 1169 Views
Re: Some things to consider fionwe1987 - 10/12/2015 06:28:49 AM 1152 Views
Re: Some things to consider Sidious - 10/12/2015 11:53:51 AM 1194 Views
Sorilea has always been shown as skilled darius_sedai - 10/12/2015 04:10:37 PM 1273 Views
Re: Some things to consider fionwe1987 - 10/12/2015 04:46:29 PM 1197 Views
Re: Some things to consider Sidious - 10/12/2015 05:50:17 PM 1190 Views
plenty of weaker ones with notably strong Talents actually darius_sedai - 10/12/2015 06:26:03 PM 1255 Views
This is a flawed list Sidious - 11/12/2015 05:14:47 AM 1186 Views
and you are just rationalizing to make your point seem plausible darius_sedai - 11/12/2015 03:10:12 PM 1300 Views
another point about Talents (unrelated to the Strength question) darius_sedai - 11/12/2015 06:06:42 PM 1369 Views
Not really Sidious - 11/12/2015 09:09:41 PM 1281 Views
You are trying to force fit thin evidence into a sweeping statement darius_sedai - 11/12/2015 10:13:13 PM 1287 Views
Re: You are trying to force fit thin evidence into a sweeping statement Sidious - 12/12/2015 06:46:05 AM 1191 Views
Let's face it a body builder ninja is sort of funny to think about darius_sedai - 12/12/2015 02:55:37 PM 1282 Views
Some quotes fionwe1987 - 12/12/2015 01:18:41 AM 1179 Views
Re: Some things to consider fionwe1987 - 12/12/2015 03:18:30 AM 1284 Views
Re: Some things to consider Sidious - 12/12/2015 06:19:15 AM 1238 Views
Hey ... I have no interest in making you look stupid! darius_sedai - 12/12/2015 03:15:26 PM 1191 Views
Re: Hey ... I have no interest in making you look stupid! Sidious - 13/12/2015 11:26:17 AM 1212 Views
Yes, it's a sad thing to realize that this is pretty much the end of the road darius_sedai - 14/12/2015 04:40:50 PM 1170 Views
Re: Yes, it's a sad thing to realize that this is pretty much the end of the road Sidious - 15/12/2015 06:01:58 AM 1223 Views
I'm actually perplexed fionwe1987 - 15/12/2015 07:19:27 AM 1149 Views
Re: I'm actually perplexed Sidious - 17/12/2015 11:36:59 AM 1290 Views
LOL ... Amen! *NM* darius_sedai - 15/12/2015 03:54:55 PM 772 Views
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Re: Aran'gar fionwe1987 - 16/12/2015 06:50:27 PM 1527 Views
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If you want to use the file you might want to grab it now before the site shuts down *NM* darius_sedai - 18/09/2016 06:45:48 PM 680 Views
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