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yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 07/01/2010 12:34:34 AM
The way it reads sounds like it could take a lot of time after someone's death to secure the right body... so unless it's a journey that takes months after your death I'm thinking Balefire shouldn't really make all that much difference.


Umm no, DO keeps your soul in his grasp, maybe inside the bore while waiting for a body to be secured. But the initial capture of the soul has to happen quickly. However, once the DO has your soul in his grasp, he can keep it from escaping to join the pattern.

So to continue my example. If he captured you in those 2 minutes, he could then keep your soul in his hand for years if he wanted to, he would not need to find a body in the remaining 3 minutes. But if he missed that 5 minute window, nothing could be done.


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Rand the psycho? Datakim - 06/01/2010 02:53:30 AM 1615 Views
I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 04:07:33 AM 1017 Views
On Balefire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 04:43:18 AM 1013 Views
Good point Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:04:26 AM 1043 Views
On the nature of BaleFire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:32:25 PM 944 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:59:12 AM 853 Views
Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:10:33 AM 970 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 05:20:02 AM 889 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:58:00 AM 856 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 11:46:13 AM 805 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:55:01 PM 808 Views
I disagree Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:42:44 PM 767 Views
Re: I disagree Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:41:08 PM 793 Views
Re: I disagree Lord Haart - 07/01/2010 04:42:40 AM 774 Views
I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:30:56 AM 928 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:32:24 PM 836 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 900 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:19:56 PM 786 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 12:21:50 AM 879 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:56:26 AM 812 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 01:46:16 AM 850 Views
I agree with Templar Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 04:36:20 PM 797 Views
Of course, I agree with you, esp since I just put forth the idea you support earlier in the thread. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:58:26 PM 1283 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:57:54 AM 907 Views
Rand crossed a line Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:36:42 PM 923 Views
Re: Rand crossed a line Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:16:12 PM 837 Views
But... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:34:02 PM 948 Views
Re: But... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:14:25 PM 762 Views
Doesn't Balefire remove your thread from the Pattern permanently? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:55:38 PM 867 Views
No, RJ stated balefired people can be reborn. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:26:00 PM 426 Views
But not in this turning of the Wheel. So they'd miss out on MANY lifetimes. Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:46:04 PM 827 Views
What? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:20:56 PM 844 Views
Where did you get that? Gher - 06/01/2010 07:09:38 PM 797 Views
No, balefire just kills you backwards in time. It is not super-death. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:58:18 PM 458 Views
LOL ... super-death! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:59:31 PM 774 Views
Hah! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:06:07 AM 427 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:20 AM 783 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:33 AM 757 Views
Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:51:15 PM 894 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 07:16:14 PM 813 Views
Re: Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 851 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 10:47:11 PM 845 Views
let me ask the question in a different way darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:26:43 PM 832 Views
Re: let me ask the question in a different way Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:40:56 PM 829 Views
actually that quote supports my thoughts darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:50:40 PM 846 Views
Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM 805 Views
yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:34:34 AM 788 Views
Re: yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:13:40 AM 759 Views
Meh. I just think advocating mass-murder is the opposite direction RJ meant for this to take. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:00:44 AM 862 Views
Sigh. What mass murder? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:15:01 AM 749 Views
you are kidding right? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:19:58 AM 838 Views
In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:14:32 PM 819 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:57:43 PM 827 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 07:13:21 PM 840 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 07:52:24 PM 784 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 08:56:43 PM 853 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:26:01 PM 784 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:30:45 PM 728 Views
Personally I'm kind of sick of Rand being the only person killing FS! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:42:57 PM 907 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:56:02 PM 841 Views
OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:30:19 PM 822 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: Sidious - 08/01/2010 01:53:25 PM 774 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:56:41 PM 830 Views
What might work... Etzel - 08/01/2010 12:35:17 PM 740 Views
Re: What might work... Datakim - 08/01/2010 11:38:09 PM 761 Views
Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again Itachi - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM 917 Views
Meh Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:30:24 PM 759 Views
The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:33:32 PM 768 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:50:37 PM 843 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:55:03 PM 790 Views
I do have to guiltily say, though, that if Rand had balefired the Seanchan and THEN became good... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:03:20 AM 821 Views
*laughs behind hand* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:05:54 AM 899 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:23:11 AM 767 Views
I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:52:25 AM 773 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:24:32 AM 835 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:33:52 PM 777 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 04:28:18 PM 920 Views
right cause all Generals are so well versed in medical conditions darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:44:09 PM 876 Views
Nice way to avoid the argument. Datakim - 07/01/2010 10:00:17 PM 827 Views
I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM 861 Views
I concede Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:09:11 AM 755 Views
You weren't wrong overall, but there were some serious flaws in your reasoning. Cannoli - 07/01/2010 02:43:17 AM 865 Views
Tee hee. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 05:28:52 AM 815 Views
Morals are subjective anyhow, Nyrende - 07/01/2010 06:23:09 AM 846 Views
Re: Morals are subjective anyhow, RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:23:59 PM 771 Views
I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 09/01/2010 12:00:02 AM 851 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 05:56:16 PM 1008 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 18/01/2010 01:00:23 PM 1135 Views
Your assertions weaken your overall argument. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:47:10 PM 739 Views
Re: Your assertions weaken your overall argument. Cannoli - 18/01/2010 12:49:26 PM 781 Views
You are treating Graendal's "pets" as though they were enemy combatants darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:40:03 PM 854 Views
Like I give a damn what a group of professional killers would do. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:39:11 PM 766 Views
Graendal captured these people as part of the Shadows offensive, Operation Chaos Rules darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 12:00:40 AM 1076 Views
Well, I still liked your first argument. It's a freaking war. The argument ... amirebram - 07/01/2010 07:08:53 PM 803 Views
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