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that's because Moiraine trained and is relatively skilled (for AS) darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 06/02/2010 07:34:05 PM
Every passage is about the difficulty to Moiraine maintaining her composure, never any difficulty channeling. And the last one. The one that was apparently designed to make her fail. Do you seriously believe that meeting her father and hearing of her dying mother would cause her trouble channeling?


She spent months working on making sure she had the weaves under control ... if she screwed up on any one of the 100 she would have failed as surely as if she had panicked. It's a multi-tiered system of tests.

RJ's point about Nynaeve specifically points out that she would have trouble because she "had too much specialization" ... that's clearly an OP issue.
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Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) Yondaime - 04/02/2010 10:38:01 PM 2616 Views
Gawyn. *chokes back the vomit that rushes up his throat* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/02/2010 10:53:37 PM 1354 Views
There there Yondaime - 04/02/2010 11:15:00 PM 1245 Views
Huh? He was even WORSE in TGS. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 05:14:16 AM 1136 Views
I dunno. He actaully DID stuff this time Yondaime - 05/02/2010 05:24:48 AM 1200 Views
I agree he was much better than before darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 04:39:33 PM 1114 Views
It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. Jeordam - 04/02/2010 11:15:19 PM 1206 Views
Re: It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. Gerbeaud - 05/02/2010 01:13:52 AM 1192 Views
Gawyn is incredibly irritating Yondaime - 05/02/2010 01:55:40 AM 1219 Views
No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 10:21:45 PM 1103 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. Datakim - 05/02/2010 10:44:47 PM 1124 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 11:53:18 PM 1219 Views
Perhaps the key is that Gawyn is an even more simplistic thinker than Galad. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 06:20:06 AM 1077 Views
Again, what? When? Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 08:08:47 AM 1095 Views
Well, the fact that he's had access to one of the best educations in Randland Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 09:22:28 AM 1060 Views
Completely different subjects, and pretty insignificant, really. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 06:44:35 PM 788 Views
the person to beat Gawyn is Mat imlad - 06/02/2010 06:36:03 AM 1337 Views
Perrin would beat Lan?! *NM* BlackAdder - 06/02/2010 05:52:47 PM 1033 Views
Sure, Gawyn is better BlackAdder - 05/02/2010 02:26:45 AM 1154 Views
Re: Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) MissKoalaVB - 05/02/2010 04:27:16 AM 1257 Views
Yondaime - 05/02/2010 04:47:17 AM 954 Views
Add Nynaeve and Egwene to the fight, that's something worth seeing then. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 05:20:53 AM 1241 Views
Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 04:55:51 PM 1208 Views
I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/02/2010 05:10:34 PM 1160 Views
Re: I agree. darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 05:25:52 PM 1359 Views
You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 07:41:28 PM 1256 Views
Re: You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 09:42:32 PM 1181 Views
I just mentioned it since you said Egwene had more combat experience. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 06:21:38 AM 1121 Views
I think you are missunderstanding me darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 02:04:13 AM 1176 Views
Re: Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass Datakim - 05/02/2010 07:49:27 PM 1729 Views
Totally agree. *NM* Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 07:52:48 PM 1156 Views
yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 09:41:09 PM 1155 Views
Re: yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test Datakim - 05/02/2010 10:00:11 PM 1058 Views
Nynaeve might have trouble... Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 10:24:56 PM 1143 Views
That's not what RJ said. He said Nynaeve would be a little hard pressed Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 10:18:42 PM 962 Views
she might be a little hard pressed to pass a test she should pass without thought! darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:56:38 PM 858 Views
Moiraine was hard pressed to pass, and she practiced for ages and is the #1 Battle AS. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:27:26 PM 1086 Views
she passed pretty easily IMO darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:12:13 PM 1164 Views
Just like Be'lal did? And Lanfear's already learned that lesson the hard way. Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 01:40:45 AM 1052 Views
Re: Just like Be'lal did? And Lanfear's already learned that lesson the hard way. darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:52:40 AM 1148 Views
Yes, but choosing the time to attack is part of how good a fighter someone is. Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:30:55 PM 992 Views
The test for the Shawl has little to nothing to do with channeling, you know this right? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 10:23:16 PM 721 Views
Are you being serious? *NM* Sidious - 06/02/2010 08:57:33 AM 773 Views
of course it does darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:48:41 PM 1133 Views
That's not how it happens in New Spring. Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 07:00:52 PM 1053 Views
that's because Moiraine trained and is relatively skilled (for AS) darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 07:34:05 PM 1129 Views
That's nonsensical. Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 09:02:13 PM 1133 Views
It's what RJ said ... "too much specialization" darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:14:38 PM 1034 Views
Well, if RJ said it, I guess it must be true. Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 11:17:19 PM 1051 Views
*shrugs* darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 12:59:00 AM 1051 Views
Towers of Midnight spoilers: Fanatic-Templar - 09/11/2010 05:29:05 AM 1048 Views
Re: That's not how it happens in New Spring. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:28:52 PM 1036 Views
Right... Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 08:58:04 PM 986 Views
About splitting weaves 14 ways Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 10:55:28 PM 1132 Views
Re: About splitting weaves 14 ways Datakim - 05/02/2010 11:08:50 PM 1021 Views
Can you provide that quote? darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 07:34:49 PM 1106 Views
Re: Can you provide that quote? Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 08:19:08 PM 1113 Views
Yup, plus those were complex weaves that may have required multiple flows. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:30:52 PM 1077 Views
there is nothing to say that multiple weaves are involved. darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:16:29 PM 1026 Views
That's the nature on the weaving. Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 09:24:39 PM 1089 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 10:46:52 PM 1121 Views
Yes, really Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 10:55:22 PM 1118 Views
Re: Yes, really Datakim - 06/02/2010 11:29:17 PM 1015 Views
Re: Yes, really Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 11:48:14 PM 1014 Views
Re: Yes, really Datakim - 07/02/2010 12:18:12 AM 1058 Views
Oh! Forgot another analogy Datakim - 07/02/2010 01:13:27 AM 1033 Views
Re: Yes, really Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 01:46:14 AM 1045 Views
Re: Yes, really Datakim - 07/02/2010 01:59:44 AM 994 Views
Re: Yes, really Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:36:48 PM 1053 Views
Re: Can you provide that quote? Datakim - 06/02/2010 10:14:24 PM 1014 Views
1 Blossom = 1 Weave ... there is nothing to say that each thread requires splitting flows darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 10:48:11 PM 1104 Views
Fine, I used the word weave when I should have used flow. 36 flows to create 12 weaves. *NM* Datakim - 06/02/2010 10:57:09 PM 697 Views
IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill Sidious - 06/02/2010 09:01:23 AM 1047 Views
Re: IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 09:29:06 AM 1192 Views
I agree ... it's much like Rand's approach to Graendal darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:51:17 PM 1082 Views
so you've learned nothing from Cyndane v. Alivia. darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:45:19 PM 1012 Views
Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:33:08 PM 1137 Views
Re: Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:17:40 PM 1125 Views
It's a lone example contested by many other examples Sidious - 07/02/2010 09:53:51 AM 1027 Views
the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:57:43 PM 1135 Views
Re: the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien Sidious - 07/02/2010 04:25:57 PM 1037 Views
from RJs lips to your ears ... darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 06:55:27 PM 1121 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 08:04:57 PM 974 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 08:20:31 PM 973 Views
... but I can't let this one go... Sidious - 07/02/2010 11:09:04 PM 1214 Views
Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 11:16:30 PM 1213 Views
Re: Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan Sidious - 08/02/2010 09:43:15 AM 1006 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 07/02/2010 11:05:00 PM 1041 Views
if you had points worth responding too I would ... as always you fall back on pretending you are RJ darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 11:07:37 PM 1114 Views
i.e. I back up my points by using RJ's written words and their validity irritates you *NM* Sidious - 07/02/2010 11:11:55 PM 1043 Views
Re: i.e. I back up my points by using RJ's written words and their validity irritates you darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 11:18:49 PM 1071 Views
Yeah, what's a couple of fights with a Forsaken? How's Egwene without her sa'angreal crutch? Cannoli - 05/02/2010 11:40:13 PM 1011 Views
I disagree Kieran - 06/02/2010 05:30:40 AM 1008 Views
Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:46:27 PM 1040 Views
Re: Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear Kieran - 06/02/2010 08:23:20 PM 1039 Views
she got hit with a pain weave before she did a damn thing darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:21:11 PM 1042 Views
lol Kieran - 07/02/2010 01:55:18 AM 1069 Views
Go look below at some of the quotes I've provided darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:59:51 AM 1125 Views
If the Power was used, I would agree BlackAdder - 06/02/2010 05:59:14 PM 1053 Views
On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 - 06/02/2010 10:43:43 PM 984 Views
Exactly my point darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 10:49:49 PM 994 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 11:12:27 PM 2290 Views
plenty of evidence that Nynaeve is unskilled outside of Healing darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:21:20 AM 1096 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 - 07/02/2010 08:02:40 AM 1100 Views
There was one other very skilled Healer in the series... Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:44:41 PM 1032 Views
I'm sure she could if she bothered to train darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 06:57:17 PM 879 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... Datakim - 06/02/2010 11:15:59 PM 1028 Views
Nope darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:26:19 AM 1076 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 - 07/02/2010 08:21:19 AM 1226 Views
Egwene and Nynaeve had already confront each other Elvira_Sedai - 07/02/2010 08:45:23 AM 1160 Views
but whoever wins fistofpainx - 05/02/2010 04:54:52 AM 1093 Views
*nods* That's cuz ... Yondaime - 05/02/2010 05:26:57 AM 1155 Views
I actually think Lan would win darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 04:57:24 PM 1102 Views
Agreed Myrdhyn - 05/02/2010 08:22:26 PM 1074 Views
If it was for "real" Lan wins, in practice ... Gawyn could be the superior *NM* darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 09:43:20 PM 610 Views
I think Lan, hands down. Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 03:30:20 PM 974 Views
THANK you. Cannoli - 05/02/2010 11:41:43 PM 9606 Views
Re: THANK you. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 06:26:04 AM 1079 Views
Gawyn and Galad have become tough Sidious - 06/02/2010 09:04:25 AM 1243 Views
Re: Gawyn and Galad have become tough Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 09:31:51 AM 946 Views
Gawyn is destined to protect the Great Mother ( Egwene ) Elvira_Sedai - 05/02/2010 04:11:51 PM 1121 Views
You forgot that the Warder Matched Lan A LONG time ago. Lan stopped sparring. amirebram - 05/02/2010 08:42:49 PM 929 Views
Hopper!!!!! *NM* NaClH2O - 06/02/2010 12:21:25 AM 706 Views
Hasn't Hopper already lost in a fight? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 01:48:19 AM 681 Views
According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... Etzel - 06/02/2010 08:55:50 AM 1128 Views
That can't be right, can it? BlackAdder - 06/02/2010 05:51:04 PM 1109 Views
Even in NS only Ryne is known to be better than Lan darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:57:29 AM 1160 Views
Huh .... Yondaime - 06/02/2010 06:23:10 PM 1106 Views
I don't recall Rand loosing to Riatin. Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 06:39:31 PM 1103 Views
Well, to be fair, the text doesn't mention much Yondaime - 07/02/2010 12:48:59 AM 1068 Views
Re: According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... Gerbeaud - 06/02/2010 06:28:15 PM 1061 Views
"Gawhine"... I like it. *NM* Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:40:32 PM 705 Views
If Gawyn is the best because he defeated two Warders, what about Rand? Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 09:15:34 PM 1079 Views
These are pointless. Heiko - 09/02/2010 12:52:21 AM 1135 Views
These are scalar comparatives JasonD - 24/02/2010 09:45:11 PM 1092 Views
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