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plenty of evidence that Nynaeve is unskilled outside of Healing darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 07/02/2010 01:21:20 AM
Without any doubt, Nynaeve is a clumsy weaver. Not because she's inherently unskilled but because she never practices and has shown no dedication to improve her skill.


That's a stretch. Nowhere in the book it stated that Nynaeve is clumsy weaver. It stated several times that she doesn't pay attention to studies if it's not involved the Healing. But that is not the same as clumsy. In many regards, Nynaeve is exceptional weaver. As shown from POV of Elayne.


To quote Cannoli
RTDB

TPoD
Into Andor

Elayne refrained from mentioning Nynaeve’s complaints about Sumeko, who had certainly grown backbone; Sumeko had criticized several of Nynaeve’s Healing weaves as "clumsy,"

Or this tidbit ...

CoT
What Wise Ones Know

“The Wise Ones learned about Healing from me. And from Nynaeve, I suppose,” she allowed after a moment. Oh, Nynaeve would have gone up like an Illuminator’s firework, hear­ing that. But then, Sumeko had outstripped Nynaeve long since.

or how about Cadsuane's assessment:

WH
The Hummingbirds Secret

The girl had good material in her, but her training had been cut far too short. Her ability with Healing was little short of miraculous, her ability with almost anything else dismal.

I think that's pretty clear that Nynaeve is not the most skilled of Channelers.
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Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) Yondaime - 04/02/2010 10:38:01 PM 2918 Views
Gawyn. *chokes back the vomit that rushes up his throat* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/02/2010 10:53:37 PM 1659 Views
There there Yondaime - 04/02/2010 11:15:00 PM 1602 Views
Huh? He was even WORSE in TGS. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 05:14:16 AM 1444 Views
I dunno. He actaully DID stuff this time Yondaime - 05/02/2010 05:24:48 AM 1552 Views
I agree he was much better than before darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 04:39:33 PM 1399 Views
It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. Jeordam - 04/02/2010 11:15:19 PM 1617 Views
Re: It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. Gerbeaud - 05/02/2010 01:13:52 AM 1523 Views
Gawyn is incredibly irritating Yondaime - 05/02/2010 01:55:40 AM 1513 Views
No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 10:21:45 PM 1461 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. Datakim - 05/02/2010 10:44:47 PM 1463 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 11:53:18 PM 1548 Views
Perhaps the key is that Gawyn is an even more simplistic thinker than Galad. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 06:20:06 AM 1443 Views
Again, what? When? Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 08:08:47 AM 1427 Views
Well, the fact that he's had access to one of the best educations in Randland Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 09:22:28 AM 1387 Views
Completely different subjects, and pretty insignificant, really. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 06:44:35 PM 971 Views
the person to beat Gawyn is Mat imlad - 06/02/2010 06:36:03 AM 1665 Views
Perrin would beat Lan?! *NM* BlackAdder - 06/02/2010 05:52:47 PM 1352 Views
Sure, Gawyn is better BlackAdder - 05/02/2010 02:26:45 AM 1459 Views
Re: Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) MissKoalaVB - 05/02/2010 04:27:16 AM 1601 Views
Yondaime - 05/02/2010 04:47:17 AM 1307 Views
Add Nynaeve and Egwene to the fight, that's something worth seeing then. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 05:20:53 AM 1564 Views
Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 04:55:51 PM 1523 Views
I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/02/2010 05:10:34 PM 1478 Views
Re: I agree. darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 05:25:52 PM 1708 Views
You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 07:41:28 PM 1564 Views
Re: You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 09:42:32 PM 1532 Views
I just mentioned it since you said Egwene had more combat experience. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 06:21:38 AM 1457 Views
I think you are missunderstanding me darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 02:04:13 AM 1520 Views
Re: Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass Datakim - 05/02/2010 07:49:27 PM 2067 Views
Totally agree. *NM* Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 07:52:48 PM 1452 Views
yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 09:41:09 PM 1471 Views
Re: yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test Datakim - 05/02/2010 10:00:11 PM 1371 Views
Nynaeve might have trouble... Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 10:24:56 PM 1491 Views
That's not what RJ said. He said Nynaeve would be a little hard pressed Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 10:18:42 PM 1266 Views
she might be a little hard pressed to pass a test she should pass without thought! darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:56:38 PM 1180 Views
Moiraine was hard pressed to pass, and she practiced for ages and is the #1 Battle AS. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:27:26 PM 1400 Views
she passed pretty easily IMO darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:12:13 PM 1497 Views
Just like Be'lal did? And Lanfear's already learned that lesson the hard way. Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 01:40:45 AM 1353 Views
Re: Just like Be'lal did? And Lanfear's already learned that lesson the hard way. darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:52:40 AM 1456 Views
Yes, but choosing the time to attack is part of how good a fighter someone is. Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:30:55 PM 1344 Views
The test for the Shawl has little to nothing to do with channeling, you know this right? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 10:23:16 PM 881 Views
Are you being serious? *NM* Sidious - 06/02/2010 08:57:33 AM 917 Views
of course it does darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:48:41 PM 1469 Views
That's not how it happens in New Spring. Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 07:00:52 PM 1338 Views
that's because Moiraine trained and is relatively skilled (for AS) darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 07:34:05 PM 1474 Views
That's nonsensical. Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 09:02:13 PM 1476 Views
It's what RJ said ... "too much specialization" darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:14:38 PM 1361 Views
Well, if RJ said it, I guess it must be true. Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 11:17:19 PM 1440 Views
*shrugs* darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 12:59:00 AM 1353 Views
Towers of Midnight spoilers: Fanatic-Templar - 09/11/2010 05:29:05 AM 1404 Views
Re: That's not how it happens in New Spring. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:28:52 PM 1355 Views
Right... Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 08:58:04 PM 1281 Views
About splitting weaves 14 ways Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 10:55:28 PM 1461 Views
Re: About splitting weaves 14 ways Datakim - 05/02/2010 11:08:50 PM 1319 Views
Can you provide that quote? darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 07:34:49 PM 1413 Views
Re: Can you provide that quote? Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 08:19:08 PM 1454 Views
Yup, plus those were complex weaves that may have required multiple flows. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:30:52 PM 1421 Views
there is nothing to say that multiple weaves are involved. darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:16:29 PM 1344 Views
That's the nature on the weaving. Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 09:24:39 PM 1410 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 10:46:52 PM 1441 Views
Yes, really Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 10:55:22 PM 1431 Views
Re: Yes, really Datakim - 06/02/2010 11:29:17 PM 1394 Views
Re: Yes, really Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 11:48:14 PM 1335 Views
Re: Yes, really Datakim - 07/02/2010 12:18:12 AM 1411 Views
Oh! Forgot another analogy Datakim - 07/02/2010 01:13:27 AM 1346 Views
Re: Yes, really Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 01:46:14 AM 1371 Views
Re: Yes, really Datakim - 07/02/2010 01:59:44 AM 1302 Views
Re: Yes, really Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:36:48 PM 1369 Views
Re: Can you provide that quote? Datakim - 06/02/2010 10:14:24 PM 1351 Views
1 Blossom = 1 Weave ... there is nothing to say that each thread requires splitting flows darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 10:48:11 PM 1451 Views
Fine, I used the word weave when I should have used flow. 36 flows to create 12 weaves. *NM* Datakim - 06/02/2010 10:57:09 PM 848 Views
IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill Sidious - 06/02/2010 09:01:23 AM 1394 Views
Re: IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 09:29:06 AM 1506 Views
I agree ... it's much like Rand's approach to Graendal darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:51:17 PM 1395 Views
so you've learned nothing from Cyndane v. Alivia. darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:45:19 PM 1348 Views
Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:33:08 PM 1468 Views
Re: Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:17:40 PM 1437 Views
It's a lone example contested by many other examples Sidious - 07/02/2010 09:53:51 AM 1396 Views
the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:57:43 PM 1467 Views
Re: the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien Sidious - 07/02/2010 04:25:57 PM 1370 Views
from RJs lips to your ears ... darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 06:55:27 PM 1427 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 08:04:57 PM 1302 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 08:20:31 PM 1269 Views
... but I can't let this one go... Sidious - 07/02/2010 11:09:04 PM 1536 Views
Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 11:16:30 PM 1541 Views
Re: Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan Sidious - 08/02/2010 09:43:15 AM 1369 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 07/02/2010 11:05:00 PM 1346 Views
if you had points worth responding too I would ... as always you fall back on pretending you are RJ darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 11:07:37 PM 1459 Views
i.e. I back up my points by using RJ's written words and their validity irritates you *NM* Sidious - 07/02/2010 11:11:55 PM 1348 Views
Re: i.e. I back up my points by using RJ's written words and their validity irritates you darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 11:18:49 PM 1397 Views
Yeah, what's a couple of fights with a Forsaken? How's Egwene without her sa'angreal crutch? Cannoli - 05/02/2010 11:40:13 PM 1332 Views
I disagree Kieran - 06/02/2010 05:30:40 AM 1337 Views
Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:46:27 PM 1386 Views
Re: Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear Kieran - 06/02/2010 08:23:20 PM 1379 Views
she got hit with a pain weave before she did a damn thing darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:21:11 PM 1368 Views
lol Kieran - 07/02/2010 01:55:18 AM 1375 Views
Go look below at some of the quotes I've provided darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:59:51 AM 1451 Views
If the Power was used, I would agree BlackAdder - 06/02/2010 05:59:14 PM 1381 Views
On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 - 06/02/2010 10:43:43 PM 1318 Views
Exactly my point darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 10:49:49 PM 1348 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 11:12:27 PM 2711 Views
plenty of evidence that Nynaeve is unskilled outside of Healing darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:21:20 AM 1463 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 - 07/02/2010 08:02:40 AM 1399 Views
There was one other very skilled Healer in the series... Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:44:41 PM 1352 Views
I'm sure she could if she bothered to train darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 06:57:17 PM 1226 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... Datakim - 06/02/2010 11:15:59 PM 1390 Views
Nope darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:26:19 AM 1459 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 - 07/02/2010 08:21:19 AM 1583 Views
Egwene and Nynaeve had already confront each other Elvira_Sedai - 07/02/2010 08:45:23 AM 1513 Views
but whoever wins fistofpainx - 05/02/2010 04:54:52 AM 1445 Views
*nods* That's cuz ... Yondaime - 05/02/2010 05:26:57 AM 1503 Views
I actually think Lan would win darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 04:57:24 PM 1426 Views
Agreed Myrdhyn - 05/02/2010 08:22:26 PM 1392 Views
If it was for "real" Lan wins, in practice ... Gawyn could be the superior *NM* darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 09:43:20 PM 754 Views
I think Lan, hands down. Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 03:30:20 PM 1264 Views
THANK you. Cannoli - 05/02/2010 11:41:43 PM 9926 Views
Re: THANK you. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 06:26:04 AM 1363 Views
Gawyn and Galad have become tough Sidious - 06/02/2010 09:04:25 AM 1562 Views
Re: Gawyn and Galad have become tough Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 09:31:51 AM 1249 Views
Gawyn is destined to protect the Great Mother ( Egwene ) Elvira_Sedai - 05/02/2010 04:11:51 PM 1459 Views
You forgot that the Warder Matched Lan A LONG time ago. Lan stopped sparring. amirebram - 05/02/2010 08:42:49 PM 1290 Views
Hopper!!!!! *NM* NaClH2O - 06/02/2010 12:21:25 AM 876 Views
Hasn't Hopper already lost in a fight? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 01:48:19 AM 833 Views
According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... Etzel - 06/02/2010 08:55:50 AM 1454 Views
That can't be right, can it? BlackAdder - 06/02/2010 05:51:04 PM 1430 Views
Even in NS only Ryne is known to be better than Lan darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:57:29 AM 1490 Views
Huh .... Yondaime - 06/02/2010 06:23:10 PM 1425 Views
I don't recall Rand loosing to Riatin. Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 06:39:31 PM 1407 Views
Well, to be fair, the text doesn't mention much Yondaime - 07/02/2010 12:48:59 AM 1372 Views
Re: According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... Gerbeaud - 06/02/2010 06:28:15 PM 1384 Views
"Gawhine"... I like it. *NM* Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:40:32 PM 854 Views
If Gawyn is the best because he defeated two Warders, what about Rand? Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 09:15:34 PM 1383 Views
These are pointless. Heiko - 09/02/2010 12:52:21 AM 1432 Views
These are scalar comparatives JasonD - 24/02/2010 09:45:11 PM 1398 Views
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