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That's pretty much how I see it too darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 15/02/2010 05:54:14 PM
What I want to see in this meeting is Rand confronting Egwene with all his LTT knowledge and experience. He will not allow her "righteous anger" get to him but respond in a cool tone and call her "little sister" and explain that he was the leader of AS in the AOL and has decided to resume his authority over all AS as the LB is looming. She can go and sit in the corner until he is ready to assign her duties to her. Hah!


I'm looking forward to his real "little sister" coming back (finally). That should be a great scene. :D

I'm still wondering why exactly he called her that - are they related? Was that LTT talking?



meaning he was essentially calling her a trainee.


Well, here is the passage:

I will do nothing without proof. I will not be goaded, this time. She was not the Egwene he had grown up with; she had become part of the Tower since Moiraine sent her there. Moiraine again. Always Moiraine. Sometimes he wished he were rid of Moiraine. Only sometimes?

He concentrated on her. "What do you want of me?" His voice sounded flat and cold to his own ears. The Power stormed inside him. Egwene had told him that for a woman, touching saidar, the female half of the Source, was an embrace; for a man, always, it was a war without mercy. "And don't mention wagons again, little sister. I usually find out what you mean to do long after it is done."

The Aes Sedai frowned at him, and no wonder. She was surely not used to being addressed so, not by any man, even the Dragon Reborn. He had no idea himself where "little sister" had come from; sometimes of late words seemed to pop into his head. A touch of madness, perhaps. Some nights he lay awake till the small hours, worrying about that. Inside the Void, it seemed someone else's worry.

--Rhuidean, The Fires of Heaven


So, it seems it was LTT talking, but the context just doesn't seem to fit with "trainee" - I think Rand and Moiraine are distantly related, but obviously not brother and sister. Just one of those unanswered things that drives me crazy :)


For one thing we know Moiraine is in fact the half-sister of Elayne and Gawyn and Galad's father, who was married to Rand's mother.

We also know there is no chance she is in LTTs line, since LTT killed all of his living relatives, earning the name Kinslayer.

Perhaps "Little Sister" just means "More Junior AS" in LTT's world.


I understood the "little sister" quote to refer to the AOL when AS referred to each other in this manner. LTT being so much older and more experienced than Moraine could refer to her as "little" sister. Sister being the term for female AS. Ishamael refers to the fact that none of LTT's "sisters" were around to provide healing to him in TEOW in the prologue.



Moiraine = a younger, female AS ... he'd probably refer to Narishma as "Little Brother"
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God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene - 14/02/2010 07:02:20 AM 2692 Views
Just like Elayne treated him so well when she kicked him out of Andor? - 14/02/2010 01:35:32 PM 854 Views
It IS kind of ridiculous... but how do YOU think a meeting will go? - 14/02/2010 07:20:08 PM 941 Views
We all do that - 14/02/2010 08:09:51 PM 1009 Views
You just KNOW that rather than compliment all the good he's done.... - 14/02/2010 03:06:09 PM 804 Views
Personally, I'm rooting for Elaida's Foretelling to be fake - 14/02/2010 06:56:41 PM 1101 Views
I thought she DID say "This I Foretell?" - 14/02/2010 07:24:19 PM 917 Views
Yes she did. - 14/02/2010 07:34:43 PM 1148 Views
Take a sedative - 14/02/2010 07:52:32 PM 980 Views
somethings we can agree on! - 14/02/2010 08:12:05 PM 960 Views
None of the Emond's Fielders suck up to him. There's difference between hostile and 1-upping - 14/02/2010 09:01:35 PM 949 Views
Right cause Nynaeve is always going around telling people how much Mat's changed - 14/02/2010 09:27:02 PM 956 Views
If you'll recall what Mat did 5 minutes after... - 14/02/2010 11:06:41 PM 983 Views
Not really - 14/02/2010 11:34:49 PM 873 Views
Re: Not really - 15/02/2010 03:32:06 PM 890 Views
better than Nynaeve who just lies to herself in order to justify her actions! - 15/02/2010 05:53:17 PM 997 Views
This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve. - 15/02/2010 06:09:46 PM 913 Views
actually it's about all of the main characters - 15/02/2010 06:13:27 PM 884 Views
Re: actually it's about all of the main characters - 15/02/2010 06:39:25 PM 973 Views
Well said. - 15/02/2010 07:20:47 PM 1012 Views
Re: Well said. - 15/02/2010 07:43:08 PM 844 Views
yet even Siuan seems to understand and accept Egwene's response ... odd that you can hold her to - 16/02/2010 01:55:35 AM 781 Views
Oh, so Elaida's treatment of Sheremin is ok because Sheremin accepted it? - 16/02/2010 06:49:53 AM 940 Views
how is that a good comparrison? - 18/02/2010 12:27:58 AM 793 Views
Re: how is that a good comparrison? - 18/02/2010 03:30:21 AM 1266 Views
watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon - 16/02/2010 01:51:09 AM 982 Views
Re: watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon - 16/02/2010 07:04:08 AM 943 Views
Alright enough. Will you read the books already? - 16/02/2010 08:03:39 AM 996 Views
Fair points, & I somehow forgot that paragraph. - 16/02/2010 05:34:12 PM 908 Views
You've forgotten a lot of paragraphs. - 16/02/2010 07:58:32 PM 1020 Views
The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason - 16/02/2010 01:34:30 AM 786 Views
Re: The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason - 16/02/2010 07:08:13 AM 888 Views
I'm going to agee with fionwe - 16/02/2010 01:07:37 PM 849 Views
Same old same old - 16/02/2010 02:01:12 PM 871 Views
that B*TCH! *NM* - 17/02/2010 03:10:30 AM 647 Views
Re: Same old same old - 17/02/2010 09:32:03 AM 997 Views
Yes, but Egwene's is pride - - 15/02/2010 07:04:25 PM 889 Views
I think Nyn has had the best character development, bar none - 15/02/2010 08:52:54 PM 880 Views
Re: I think Nyn has had the best character development, bar none - 15/02/2010 10:39:25 PM 906 Views
I feel Galad could be up there, but we see so little of him - 16/02/2010 12:28:44 AM 900 Views
are you being serious? - 16/02/2010 01:57:29 AM 861 Views
Re: are you being serious? - 16/02/2010 06:55:16 AM 963 Views
Oh, I don't think so. - 16/02/2010 09:12:57 AM 849 Views
Re: This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve. - 22/02/2010 10:57:27 PM 941 Views
It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour - 15/02/2010 06:53:30 AM 843 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour - 15/02/2010 08:41:02 AM 1089 Views
this is hilarious - 15/02/2010 12:45:22 PM 860 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour - 15/02/2010 11:57:24 AM 1127 Views
Who says Egwene didn't have a destiny? *NM* - 15/02/2010 12:46:10 PM 530 Views
Me. And I'm way smarter than you. - 15/02/2010 01:04:48 PM 948 Views
- 15/02/2010 02:12:26 PM 1006 Views
Re: - 15/02/2010 10:40:39 PM 869 Views
Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main - 16/02/2010 01:32:45 AM 828 Views
Re: Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main - 16/02/2010 07:09:52 AM 898 Views
You need a re-read my friend - 16/02/2010 01:14:22 PM 899 Views
Sidious' problem in a nutshell. - 15/02/2010 11:27:12 AM 985 Views
Re: Sidious' problem in a nutshell. - 15/02/2010 03:14:55 PM 940 Views
I've never understood the fascination with Lanfear - 15/02/2010 05:52:27 PM 958 Views
Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene - 14/02/2010 07:56:23 PM 906 Views
Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene - 14/02/2010 08:55:58 PM 849 Views
I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then - 14/02/2010 08:59:26 PM 964 Views
Re: I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then - 14/02/2010 09:24:23 PM 776 Views
I don't think so - 14/02/2010 09:30:41 PM 818 Views
Re: I don't think so - 15/02/2010 03:45:52 PM 916 Views
That's pretty much how I see it too - 15/02/2010 05:54:14 PM 826 Views
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand - 14/02/2010 08:05:40 PM 1048 Views
Re: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand - 14/02/2010 11:55:40 PM 957 Views
Cadsuane needs to spank her. - 15/02/2010 01:31:49 AM 943 Views
yeah, that's worked so well on her in the past - 15/02/2010 01:48:05 AM 873 Views
It would be a very amusing moment. - 15/02/2010 03:01:37 AM 829 Views
IMO it would merely be a hypocritical moment of massive proportions - 15/02/2010 04:45:27 AM 829 Views
and a massive failure - 15/02/2010 06:57:18 AM 975 Views
What Egwene needs is to be shown that her actions could harm the tower. - 15/02/2010 08:46:30 AM 758 Views
Actually that role is being played by Covril at the Stump *NM* - 15/02/2010 02:13:42 PM 590 Views
If you hate arrogance, you must hate all the main characters in the series - 15/02/2010 03:21:48 PM 798 Views
But that's the point - 15/02/2010 03:26:03 PM 873 Views
Not quite. - 15/02/2010 07:11:56 PM 871 Views
Actually, you can't compare the two. - 15/02/2010 12:04:19 PM 954 Views
No, Cannoli has the right of it here. - 16/02/2010 06:22:39 PM 970 Views
Re: No, Cannoli has the right of it here. - 16/02/2010 06:51:28 PM 960 Views
I actually think it will go the opposite way. - 16/02/2010 03:44:19 PM 901 Views

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