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That's pretty much how I see it too darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 15/02/2010 05:54:14 PM
What I want to see in this meeting is Rand confronting Egwene with all his LTT knowledge and experience. He will not allow her "righteous anger" get to him but respond in a cool tone and call her "little sister" and explain that he was the leader of AS in the AOL and has decided to resume his authority over all AS as the LB is looming. She can go and sit in the corner until he is ready to assign her duties to her. Hah!


I'm looking forward to his real "little sister" coming back (finally). That should be a great scene. :D

I'm still wondering why exactly he called her that - are they related? Was that LTT talking?



meaning he was essentially calling her a trainee.


Well, here is the passage:

I will do nothing without proof. I will not be goaded, this time. She was not the Egwene he had grown up with; she had become part of the Tower since Moiraine sent her there. Moiraine again. Always Moiraine. Sometimes he wished he were rid of Moiraine. Only sometimes?

He concentrated on her. "What do you want of me?" His voice sounded flat and cold to his own ears. The Power stormed inside him. Egwene had told him that for a woman, touching saidar, the female half of the Source, was an embrace; for a man, always, it was a war without mercy. "And don't mention wagons again, little sister. I usually find out what you mean to do long after it is done."

The Aes Sedai frowned at him, and no wonder. She was surely not used to being addressed so, not by any man, even the Dragon Reborn. He had no idea himself where "little sister" had come from; sometimes of late words seemed to pop into his head. A touch of madness, perhaps. Some nights he lay awake till the small hours, worrying about that. Inside the Void, it seemed someone else's worry.

--Rhuidean, The Fires of Heaven


So, it seems it was LTT talking, but the context just doesn't seem to fit with "trainee" - I think Rand and Moiraine are distantly related, but obviously not brother and sister. Just one of those unanswered things that drives me crazy :)


For one thing we know Moiraine is in fact the half-sister of Elayne and Gawyn and Galad's father, who was married to Rand's mother.

We also know there is no chance she is in LTTs line, since LTT killed all of his living relatives, earning the name Kinslayer.

Perhaps "Little Sister" just means "More Junior AS" in LTT's world.


I understood the "little sister" quote to refer to the AOL when AS referred to each other in this manner. LTT being so much older and more experienced than Moraine could refer to her as "little" sister. Sister being the term for female AS. Ishamael refers to the fact that none of LTT's "sisters" were around to provide healing to him in TEOW in the prologue.



Moiraine = a younger, female AS ... he'd probably refer to Narishma as "Little Brother"
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God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene - 14/02/2010 07:02:20 AM 2559 Views
Just like Elayne treated him so well when she kicked him out of Andor? - 14/02/2010 01:35:32 PM 727 Views
It IS kind of ridiculous... but how do YOU think a meeting will go? - 14/02/2010 07:20:08 PM 806 Views
We all do that - 14/02/2010 08:09:51 PM 883 Views
You just KNOW that rather than compliment all the good he's done.... - 14/02/2010 03:06:09 PM 679 Views
Personally, I'm rooting for Elaida's Foretelling to be fake - 14/02/2010 06:56:41 PM 972 Views
I thought she DID say "This I Foretell?" - 14/02/2010 07:24:19 PM 791 Views
Yes she did. - 14/02/2010 07:34:43 PM 1029 Views
Take a sedative - 14/02/2010 07:52:32 PM 866 Views
somethings we can agree on! - 14/02/2010 08:12:05 PM 848 Views
None of the Emond's Fielders suck up to him. There's difference between hostile and 1-upping - 14/02/2010 09:01:35 PM 826 Views
Right cause Nynaeve is always going around telling people how much Mat's changed - 14/02/2010 09:27:02 PM 813 Views
If you'll recall what Mat did 5 minutes after... - 14/02/2010 11:06:41 PM 865 Views
Not really - 14/02/2010 11:34:49 PM 747 Views
Re: Not really - 15/02/2010 03:32:06 PM 778 Views
better than Nynaeve who just lies to herself in order to justify her actions! - 15/02/2010 05:53:17 PM 875 Views
This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve. - 15/02/2010 06:09:46 PM 769 Views
actually it's about all of the main characters - 15/02/2010 06:13:27 PM 764 Views
Re: actually it's about all of the main characters - 15/02/2010 06:39:25 PM 862 Views
Well said. - 15/02/2010 07:20:47 PM 895 Views
Re: Well said. - 15/02/2010 07:43:08 PM 731 Views
yet even Siuan seems to understand and accept Egwene's response ... odd that you can hold her to - 16/02/2010 01:55:35 AM 673 Views
Oh, so Elaida's treatment of Sheremin is ok because Sheremin accepted it? - 16/02/2010 06:49:53 AM 745 Views
how is that a good comparrison? - 18/02/2010 12:27:58 AM 664 Views
Re: how is that a good comparrison? - 18/02/2010 03:30:21 AM 1086 Views
watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon - 16/02/2010 01:51:09 AM 873 Views
Re: watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon - 16/02/2010 07:04:08 AM 827 Views
Alright enough. Will you read the books already? - 16/02/2010 08:03:39 AM 874 Views
Fair points, & I somehow forgot that paragraph. - 16/02/2010 05:34:12 PM 788 Views
You've forgotten a lot of paragraphs. - 16/02/2010 07:58:32 PM 884 Views
The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason - 16/02/2010 01:34:30 AM 659 Views
Re: The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason - 16/02/2010 07:08:13 AM 762 Views
I'm going to agee with fionwe - 16/02/2010 01:07:37 PM 712 Views
Same old same old - 16/02/2010 02:01:12 PM 727 Views
that B*TCH! *NM* - 17/02/2010 03:10:30 AM 582 Views
Re: Same old same old - 17/02/2010 09:32:03 AM 884 Views
Yes, but Egwene's is pride - - 15/02/2010 07:04:25 PM 750 Views
I think Nyn has had the best character development, bar none - 15/02/2010 08:52:54 PM 770 Views
Re: I think Nyn has had the best character development, bar none - 15/02/2010 10:39:25 PM 762 Views
I feel Galad could be up there, but we see so little of him - 16/02/2010 12:28:44 AM 771 Views
are you being serious? - 16/02/2010 01:57:29 AM 741 Views
Re: are you being serious? - 16/02/2010 06:55:16 AM 829 Views
Oh, I don't think so. - 16/02/2010 09:12:57 AM 730 Views
Re: This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve. - 22/02/2010 10:57:27 PM 800 Views
It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour - 15/02/2010 06:53:30 AM 726 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour - 15/02/2010 08:41:02 AM 950 Views
this is hilarious - 15/02/2010 12:45:22 PM 731 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour - 15/02/2010 11:57:24 AM 1006 Views
Who says Egwene didn't have a destiny? *NM* - 15/02/2010 12:46:10 PM 475 Views
Me. And I'm way smarter than you. - 15/02/2010 01:04:48 PM 827 Views
- 15/02/2010 02:12:26 PM 902 Views
Re: - 15/02/2010 10:40:39 PM 740 Views
Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main - 16/02/2010 01:32:45 AM 705 Views
Re: Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main - 16/02/2010 07:09:52 AM 770 Views
You need a re-read my friend - 16/02/2010 01:14:22 PM 787 Views
Sidious' problem in a nutshell. - 15/02/2010 11:27:12 AM 855 Views
Re: Sidious' problem in a nutshell. - 15/02/2010 03:14:55 PM 830 Views
I've never understood the fascination with Lanfear - 15/02/2010 05:52:27 PM 850 Views
Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene - 14/02/2010 07:56:23 PM 772 Views
Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene - 14/02/2010 08:55:58 PM 725 Views
I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then - 14/02/2010 08:59:26 PM 819 Views
Re: I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then - 14/02/2010 09:24:23 PM 635 Views
I don't think so - 14/02/2010 09:30:41 PM 710 Views
Re: I don't think so - 15/02/2010 03:45:52 PM 794 Views
That's pretty much how I see it too - 15/02/2010 05:54:14 PM 705 Views
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand - 14/02/2010 08:05:40 PM 929 Views
Re: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand - 14/02/2010 11:55:40 PM 824 Views
Cadsuane needs to spank her. - 15/02/2010 01:31:49 AM 792 Views
yeah, that's worked so well on her in the past - 15/02/2010 01:48:05 AM 762 Views
It would be a very amusing moment. - 15/02/2010 03:01:37 AM 715 Views
IMO it would merely be a hypocritical moment of massive proportions - 15/02/2010 04:45:27 AM 718 Views
and a massive failure - 15/02/2010 06:57:18 AM 856 Views
What Egwene needs is to be shown that her actions could harm the tower. - 15/02/2010 08:46:30 AM 638 Views
Actually that role is being played by Covril at the Stump *NM* - 15/02/2010 02:13:42 PM 543 Views
If you hate arrogance, you must hate all the main characters in the series - 15/02/2010 03:21:48 PM 685 Views
But that's the point - 15/02/2010 03:26:03 PM 759 Views
Not quite. - 15/02/2010 07:11:56 PM 759 Views
Actually, you can't compare the two. - 15/02/2010 12:04:19 PM 813 Views
No, Cannoli has the right of it here. - 16/02/2010 06:22:39 PM 859 Views
Re: No, Cannoli has the right of it here. - 16/02/2010 06:51:28 PM 815 Views
I actually think it will go the opposite way. - 16/02/2010 03:44:19 PM 768 Views

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