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they may also be a afraid that PP will go the way of ACORN Ray Send a noteboard - 02/02/2012 11:04:16 PM
Some of the things PP are being accused of are pretty serious and have the potential to be very embarrassing to people associated with them. Among other things they are being accused of not following reporting laws that require health care providers to report cases of child abuse. If a fourteen year shows up pregnant and says the father is thirty that is a crime and most states require it be reported as such. They are also being accused of providing underage abortion with parental consent in states that require it. They are also being accussed of something that hits close to Rcae For the Cure, they are being accussed of using funds for abortions that were earmarked for other things. If that were to turn out to be true then the "none of our money is used for abortion" argument gets weak in a hurry.

It doesn't matter if these are just isolated cases where a few local people practiced bad judgment or not. It won't matter if the video was edited to make it seem worse than it really was unless the video is an outright lie. The right wing activists have learned that if you throw enough mud it will stick. With today’s new media it is becoming the practice of both sides to try and smear the other with edited video. Right now PP has a huge target on its back and there are right to life activist doing everything they can to get video making them look bad. With that many people gunning for them being in bed with PP is a dangerous for an orginzation that depends on its good image to raise money.

These sorts of tactics are disgusting but effective. In fact the same people who took down ACORN are now going after PP hard. The defenders of PP parent will point out that the people making the video are serial mud slingers with a history of heavily edited videos but if they have video of a Planned Parenthood advisor telling a fourteen year old to lie about how she got pregnant none of that will mater. Of course PP knows they are coming after them and they are hopefully being careful but still the odds of them becoming toxic in a hurry are significantly above zero.
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Susan G. Komen cuts funds to Planned Parenthood. (with updated edit) - 02/02/2012 04:32:27 PM 2284 Views
The most annoying part is in the sixth paragraph- abortions are only a small part of their thing - 02/02/2012 05:08:07 PM 1190 Views
I agree. - 02/02/2012 05:20:17 PM 1084 Views
I can understand it though. - 02/02/2012 05:45:55 PM 1147 Views
I can too, it just isn't for me. - 02/02/2012 05:58:33 PM 1063 Views
Actually, there are longer-acting forms of birth control than the pill. - 03/02/2012 12:37:42 AM 1070 Views
I do think that preventing abortions is their primary goal. - 03/02/2012 01:08:05 AM 1031 Views
If they don't see that link, it's because they haven't looked. - 03/02/2012 02:42:42 AM 1124 Views
That is a little unfair. - 03/02/2012 12:48:46 PM 1334 Views
Won't someone please think of the children?! - 04/02/2012 05:03:27 AM 1116 Views
I think you're leaving out some important points. - 04/02/2012 03:40:48 PM 1052 Views
Ah, the good ol' silent majority. - 04/02/2012 07:32:29 PM 1033 Views
So which moron is feeding you this crap? - 04/02/2012 10:27:15 PM 1081 Views
A zygote isn't a person, because it doesn't have a brain. - 05/02/2012 12:33:29 AM 1055 Views
It worries me when we think alike.... - 05/02/2012 01:22:35 PM 1106 Views
Brain waves at 8 weeks are a myth. - 05/02/2012 08:46:06 PM 1197 Views
"brain function... appears to be reliably present in the fetus at about eight weeks' gestation." - 05/02/2012 10:42:35 PM 1109 Views
Oh please. - 05/02/2012 11:13:50 PM 1071 Views
Re: Oh please yourself. - 06/02/2012 09:15:26 PM 945 Views
Quite a telling reply. - 07/02/2012 04:38:20 AM 1027 Views
Re: I quite agree. - 08/02/2012 06:03:23 PM 1233 Views
You're taking an issue of objective facts and treating it like a day of playground gossip. - 09/02/2012 03:47:06 AM 1044 Views
No, your source, in which there is very little that is objective, did that for me. - 11/02/2012 02:59:45 AM 1086 Views
I see you have continued to provide no factual arguments. - 14/02/2012 04:53:28 AM 1339 Views
I presented factual rebuttals. - 19/02/2012 01:56:45 AM 1138 Views
You continue to miss the point. - 23/02/2012 10:22:24 PM 1199 Views
Well, yes. - 04/02/2012 11:14:47 PM 1115 Views
A silent majority may as well not exist, if it has no tangible effects. - 05/02/2012 12:54:34 AM 1063 Views
You ignoring it is not the same thing as it having no tangible effect. - 05/02/2012 02:11:36 AM 1156 Views
Ignoring what? You haven't shown me anything solid. - 05/02/2012 05:25:23 AM 1061 Views
It's ok, we're done. *NM* - 05/02/2012 09:29:05 AM 629 Views
Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. - 04/02/2012 08:25:49 PM 1191 Views
Re: Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. - 05/02/2012 02:11:28 AM 1037 Views
If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 05/02/2012 08:42:17 AM 907 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 05/02/2012 10:04:59 PM 1081 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 06/02/2012 08:57:38 PM 1026 Views
I'm done discussing my use of the term "oppression." The Tim Ryan stuff is interesting, though. - 07/02/2012 05:37:05 AM 1151 Views
Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 08/02/2012 06:01:32 PM 1242 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 09/02/2012 05:30:58 AM 1101 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 11/02/2012 02:58:00 AM 1124 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 14/02/2012 04:29:08 AM 1197 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 19/02/2012 01:54:30 AM 1104 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 23/02/2012 10:59:32 PM 1406 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 07/03/2012 01:47:44 AM 1067 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 15/03/2012 10:27:23 PM 1320 Views
There are problems with the implants - 03/02/2012 01:42:55 AM 1089 Views
You have a talent for understatement. - 03/02/2012 01:08:40 PM 1073 Views
I agree that they have made Beast Cancer a cult but splitting with PP is just smart - 02/02/2012 05:39:49 PM 1227 Views
I agree. - 02/02/2012 06:00:17 PM 999 Views
yes she is going to have to piss off one group or the other - 02/02/2012 06:12:31 PM 1067 Views
Right - 02/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1130 Views
Do you see a way Komen could have avoided pissing off one side? - 02/02/2012 06:55:36 PM 1060 Views
No, I don't. I don't believe I said that? - 02/02/2012 07:53:50 PM 978 Views
You didn't; I inferred it from the way you phrased that ("if she HAS to..."). Sorry. - 02/02/2012 08:06:11 PM 1047 Views
I know I'm not always clear. - 02/02/2012 08:32:47 PM 1055 Views
Just curious... - 02/02/2012 10:07:49 PM 1038 Views
Not at all. - 02/02/2012 10:24:19 PM 1105 Views
Not at all? - 02/02/2012 10:32:31 PM 992 Views
No. - 02/02/2012 10:47:04 PM 952 Views
My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes - 02/02/2012 11:17:24 PM 1049 Views
Re: My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes - 03/02/2012 12:08:01 AM 1044 Views
wow that may be the worst advice I had in weeks - 03/02/2012 12:13:18 AM 1026 Views
Ooor, the best. - 03/02/2012 12:25:56 AM 998 Views
ok now you are just being mean *NM* - 03/02/2012 12:46:12 AM 622 Views
The thread was going too well - I thought we needed the meanness. *NM* - 03/02/2012 11:30:39 AM 573 Views
rabble rouser *NM* - 04/02/2012 04:24:01 AM 632 Views
I misread this at first - 03/02/2012 12:51:44 AM 1050 Views
not to mention codeine seems to make me double post - 02/02/2012 11:17:26 PM 2099 Views
I'm not so sure I agree. Or not completely. - 02/02/2012 06:14:11 PM 988 Views
I don't diagree with the way you see it - 02/02/2012 06:39:41 PM 1055 Views
More inevitable than anything, considering who started Komen. - 02/02/2012 10:19:34 PM 1003 Views
Never having heard of any of those except PP, my opinion may not be the most relevant... - 02/02/2012 08:32:48 PM 1112 Views
You don't know stuff. - 02/02/2012 08:43:38 PM 1080 Views
I know the stuff that matters. - 02/02/2012 09:55:08 PM 984 Views
That's true. - 02/02/2012 10:34:32 PM 1088 Views
they may also be a afraid that PP will go the way of ACORN - 02/02/2012 11:04:16 PM 1134 Views
"Accused" of = unfounded slander. - 03/02/2012 12:13:30 AM 1159 Views
This is so foreign a debate for me - 02/02/2012 10:16:15 PM 1106 Views
Must be nice. *NM* - 03/02/2012 12:26:49 AM 679 Views
Re: stuff - 03/02/2012 09:18:53 AM 1005 Views
I'm sorry, but what're we talking about when we're talking about "cancer" - 03/02/2012 12:49:34 PM 1037 Views
Obviously not adenocarcinoma, no. - 04/02/2012 07:36:06 AM 1055 Views
I"m not that fussed. I'm just generally leary of research that has results like that - 04/02/2012 08:35:04 PM 996 Views
Fair enough. - 04/02/2012 10:17:31 PM 1054 Views
They restored funding incidentally - 03/02/2012 05:43:47 PM 994 Views
Unless I've missed it - 03/02/2012 05:56:15 PM 1064 Views
You must have missed it then - 03/02/2012 07:07:13 PM 990 Views
If you're referring to Cannoli - 03/02/2012 07:19:25 PM 1148 Views
Multiple was not an accidental choice of words - 03/02/2012 11:46:30 PM 1035 Views
Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. - 04/02/2012 12:41:42 AM 1056 Views
Re: Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. - 04/02/2012 01:53:25 AM 1249 Views
Well, I'll try again for both of us. - 04/02/2012 02:56:42 PM 1074 Views
Re: Well, I'll try again for both of us. - 04/02/2012 07:40:25 PM 1039 Views
well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision - 03/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1179 Views
I think that ship sailed long ago. - 03/02/2012 08:45:13 PM 992 Views
Truth - 04/02/2012 02:07:20 AM 1096 Views
I do wonder a bit which lawmakers Fox thinks "pressured" Komen. - 03/02/2012 08:29:50 PM 994 Views
are you trying to disprove the study you posted? - 03/02/2012 09:20:12 PM 1124 Views
To me, it depends on the nature of the contact, which I have not dug enough to discover. - 03/02/2012 10:43:45 PM 1017 Views
you admit you have no incite into what happened - 04/02/2012 04:27:17 AM 1051 Views
Actually, it looks like Komens new VP (and former GOP GA gubernatorial candidate) had the incite. - 04/02/2012 04:24:14 PM 1083 Views
educated guess don't work when you are tinfoil hat wearing kool-aid drinker - 04/02/2012 09:33:49 PM 998 Views
Dude. - 04/02/2012 11:20:49 PM 916 Views
Yo mama? - 05/02/2012 05:32:11 AM 1088 Views
whhhhhhyyyyyy - 04/02/2012 11:23:58 PM 1078 Views
Why would I not think that? - 05/02/2012 05:46:15 AM 945 Views

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