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After a little more digging I have to say you are probably right. Joel Send a noteboard - 03/02/2012 02:23:14 AM
A politician got political; what a surprise. ;) The only thing unexpected is that they had been funding Planned Parenthood in the first place.

In fact, given that Komen is focused exclusively on eliminating breast cancer, and the many studies showing a correlation between oral contraception and breast cancer incidence, that is somewhat unexpected even apart from political issues. One would think studies like this one:

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2010/09/the_pillbreast_cancer_connection.html

or those the National Cancer Institute cites (see link) would discourage Komen from funding an organization that actively promotes and assists widespread use of a known breast cancer risk factor. In terms of overall healthcare it is a mixed bag; the pill increases the risk of some cancers but reduces the risk of others, and reduces the risks of unplanned pregnancy. However, in terms of breast cancer alone (which is Komens sole concern,) it seems pretty straightforward.


I'm not sure I agree with that, primarily because I find it unlikely that many people stop taking birth control because they are afraid of breast cancer. The lack of funding from SGK would have no bearing on PP's distribution of birth control, though it might have an impact on how many women could receive a breast exam. Priorities, really. I can easily see how the two orgs might feel the need to work together to make sure women know all the options and keep up with the preventative care and breast exams.

Not so much because few women stop birth control from fear of breast cancer (though you are probably right about that, too; I am not sure how well known the correlation is) but because one article I saw at Slate stated Komens Planned Parenthood funding was ONLY for breast cancer screening. That makes the whole thing that much more ridiculous: Not a dime of their money was spent on abortions, and EVERY dime they cut is one less spent on breast cancer exams. It explains why they gave Planned Parenthood money despite the fact its promoting the pills heightens the risk of breast cancer, but not why they withdrew that money despite it being used exclusively to fight breast cancer.

Occams Razor says that, after decades of passionate complaints with Planned Parenthood from the vast majority of her friends and business associates, Nancy Brinker was ready to cave, and thought the specious Congressional investigation gave her the necessary cover. Guess not.
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Susan G. Komen cuts funds to Planned Parenthood. (with updated edit) - 02/02/2012 04:32:27 PM 2283 Views
The most annoying part is in the sixth paragraph- abortions are only a small part of their thing - 02/02/2012 05:08:07 PM 1188 Views
I agree. - 02/02/2012 05:20:17 PM 1084 Views
I can understand it though. - 02/02/2012 05:45:55 PM 1145 Views
I can too, it just isn't for me. - 02/02/2012 05:58:33 PM 1063 Views
Actually, there are longer-acting forms of birth control than the pill. - 03/02/2012 12:37:42 AM 1070 Views
I do think that preventing abortions is their primary goal. - 03/02/2012 01:08:05 AM 1030 Views
If they don't see that link, it's because they haven't looked. - 03/02/2012 02:42:42 AM 1124 Views
That is a little unfair. - 03/02/2012 12:48:46 PM 1334 Views
Won't someone please think of the children?! - 04/02/2012 05:03:27 AM 1116 Views
I think you're leaving out some important points. - 04/02/2012 03:40:48 PM 1051 Views
Ah, the good ol' silent majority. - 04/02/2012 07:32:29 PM 1033 Views
So which moron is feeding you this crap? - 04/02/2012 10:27:15 PM 1079 Views
A zygote isn't a person, because it doesn't have a brain. - 05/02/2012 12:33:29 AM 1055 Views
It worries me when we think alike.... - 05/02/2012 01:22:35 PM 1106 Views
Brain waves at 8 weeks are a myth. - 05/02/2012 08:46:06 PM 1196 Views
"brain function... appears to be reliably present in the fetus at about eight weeks' gestation." - 05/02/2012 10:42:35 PM 1109 Views
Oh please. - 05/02/2012 11:13:50 PM 1069 Views
Re: Oh please yourself. - 06/02/2012 09:15:26 PM 944 Views
Quite a telling reply. - 07/02/2012 04:38:20 AM 1026 Views
Re: I quite agree. - 08/02/2012 06:03:23 PM 1232 Views
You're taking an issue of objective facts and treating it like a day of playground gossip. - 09/02/2012 03:47:06 AM 1044 Views
No, your source, in which there is very little that is objective, did that for me. - 11/02/2012 02:59:45 AM 1086 Views
I see you have continued to provide no factual arguments. - 14/02/2012 04:53:28 AM 1339 Views
I presented factual rebuttals. - 19/02/2012 01:56:45 AM 1138 Views
You continue to miss the point. - 23/02/2012 10:22:24 PM 1199 Views
Well, yes. - 04/02/2012 11:14:47 PM 1114 Views
A silent majority may as well not exist, if it has no tangible effects. - 05/02/2012 12:54:34 AM 1063 Views
You ignoring it is not the same thing as it having no tangible effect. - 05/02/2012 02:11:36 AM 1155 Views
Ignoring what? You haven't shown me anything solid. - 05/02/2012 05:25:23 AM 1061 Views
It's ok, we're done. *NM* - 05/02/2012 09:29:05 AM 628 Views
Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. - 04/02/2012 08:25:49 PM 1191 Views
Re: Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. - 05/02/2012 02:11:28 AM 1035 Views
If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 05/02/2012 08:42:17 AM 907 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 05/02/2012 10:04:59 PM 1081 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. - 06/02/2012 08:57:38 PM 1026 Views
I'm done discussing my use of the term "oppression." The Tim Ryan stuff is interesting, though. - 07/02/2012 05:37:05 AM 1151 Views
Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 08/02/2012 06:01:32 PM 1242 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 09/02/2012 05:30:58 AM 1101 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 11/02/2012 02:58:00 AM 1124 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 14/02/2012 04:29:08 AM 1197 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 19/02/2012 01:54:30 AM 1103 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 23/02/2012 10:59:32 PM 1406 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 07/03/2012 01:47:44 AM 1067 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. - 15/03/2012 10:27:23 PM 1319 Views
There are problems with the implants - 03/02/2012 01:42:55 AM 1088 Views
You have a talent for understatement. - 03/02/2012 01:08:40 PM 1072 Views
I agree that they have made Beast Cancer a cult but splitting with PP is just smart - 02/02/2012 05:39:49 PM 1227 Views
I agree. - 02/02/2012 06:00:17 PM 998 Views
yes she is going to have to piss off one group or the other - 02/02/2012 06:12:31 PM 1065 Views
Right - 02/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1128 Views
Do you see a way Komen could have avoided pissing off one side? - 02/02/2012 06:55:36 PM 1060 Views
No, I don't. I don't believe I said that? - 02/02/2012 07:53:50 PM 978 Views
You didn't; I inferred it from the way you phrased that ("if she HAS to..."). Sorry. - 02/02/2012 08:06:11 PM 1047 Views
I know I'm not always clear. - 02/02/2012 08:32:47 PM 1054 Views
Just curious... - 02/02/2012 10:07:49 PM 1036 Views
Not at all. - 02/02/2012 10:24:19 PM 1104 Views
Not at all? - 02/02/2012 10:32:31 PM 992 Views
No. - 02/02/2012 10:47:04 PM 952 Views
My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes - 02/02/2012 11:17:24 PM 1048 Views
Re: My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes - 03/02/2012 12:08:01 AM 1043 Views
wow that may be the worst advice I had in weeks - 03/02/2012 12:13:18 AM 1026 Views
Ooor, the best. - 03/02/2012 12:25:56 AM 997 Views
ok now you are just being mean *NM* - 03/02/2012 12:46:12 AM 621 Views
The thread was going too well - I thought we needed the meanness. *NM* - 03/02/2012 11:30:39 AM 573 Views
rabble rouser *NM* - 04/02/2012 04:24:01 AM 632 Views
I misread this at first - 03/02/2012 12:51:44 AM 1049 Views
not to mention codeine seems to make me double post - 02/02/2012 11:17:26 PM 2098 Views
I'm not so sure I agree. Or not completely. - 02/02/2012 06:14:11 PM 987 Views
I don't diagree with the way you see it - 02/02/2012 06:39:41 PM 1055 Views
More inevitable than anything, considering who started Komen. - 02/02/2012 10:19:34 PM 1002 Views
Never having heard of any of those except PP, my opinion may not be the most relevant... - 02/02/2012 08:32:48 PM 1112 Views
You don't know stuff. - 02/02/2012 08:43:38 PM 1079 Views
I know the stuff that matters. - 02/02/2012 09:55:08 PM 983 Views
That's true. - 02/02/2012 10:34:32 PM 1088 Views
they may also be a afraid that PP will go the way of ACORN - 02/02/2012 11:04:16 PM 1132 Views
"Accused" of = unfounded slander. - 03/02/2012 12:13:30 AM 1159 Views
This is so foreign a debate for me - 02/02/2012 10:16:15 PM 1105 Views
Must be nice. *NM* - 03/02/2012 12:26:49 AM 679 Views
Re: stuff - 03/02/2012 09:18:53 AM 1004 Views
I'm sorry, but what're we talking about when we're talking about "cancer" - 03/02/2012 12:49:34 PM 1037 Views
Obviously not adenocarcinoma, no. - 04/02/2012 07:36:06 AM 1055 Views
I"m not that fussed. I'm just generally leary of research that has results like that - 04/02/2012 08:35:04 PM 996 Views
Fair enough. - 04/02/2012 10:17:31 PM 1054 Views
Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. - 02/02/2012 10:54:34 PM 1090 Views
Re: Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. - 02/02/2012 11:03:32 PM 998 Views
After a little more digging I have to say you are probably right. - 03/02/2012 02:23:14 AM 941 Views
They restored funding incidentally - 03/02/2012 05:43:47 PM 994 Views
Unless I've missed it - 03/02/2012 05:56:15 PM 1063 Views
You must have missed it then - 03/02/2012 07:07:13 PM 989 Views
If you're referring to Cannoli - 03/02/2012 07:19:25 PM 1147 Views
Multiple was not an accidental choice of words - 03/02/2012 11:46:30 PM 1034 Views
Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. - 04/02/2012 12:41:42 AM 1055 Views
Re: Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. - 04/02/2012 01:53:25 AM 1248 Views
Well, I'll try again for both of us. - 04/02/2012 02:56:42 PM 1073 Views
Re: Well, I'll try again for both of us. - 04/02/2012 07:40:25 PM 1038 Views
well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision - 03/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1177 Views
I think that ship sailed long ago. - 03/02/2012 08:45:13 PM 991 Views
Truth - 04/02/2012 02:07:20 AM 1096 Views
I do wonder a bit which lawmakers Fox thinks "pressured" Komen. - 03/02/2012 08:29:50 PM 994 Views
are you trying to disprove the study you posted? - 03/02/2012 09:20:12 PM 1124 Views
To me, it depends on the nature of the contact, which I have not dug enough to discover. - 03/02/2012 10:43:45 PM 1016 Views
you admit you have no incite into what happened - 04/02/2012 04:27:17 AM 1049 Views
Actually, it looks like Komens new VP (and former GOP GA gubernatorial candidate) had the incite. - 04/02/2012 04:24:14 PM 1083 Views
educated guess don't work when you are tinfoil hat wearing kool-aid drinker - 04/02/2012 09:33:49 PM 996 Views
Dude. - 04/02/2012 11:20:49 PM 916 Views
Yo mama? - 05/02/2012 05:32:11 AM 1088 Views
whhhhhhyyyyyy - 04/02/2012 11:23:58 PM 1078 Views
Why would I not think that? - 05/02/2012 05:46:15 AM 944 Views

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