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If they don't see that link, it's because they haven't looked. Dreaded Anomaly Send a noteboard - 03/02/2012 02:42:42 AM
Implanon and IUDs both last for years at a time, and have sub-1% failure rates. I am not sure how readily PP provides these, but they are definitely solutions to the biggest problem of birth control, which is human error.

If the healthcare law and the DHHS ruling classifying birth control as preventive care both stand, all of these will soon be available to everyone with no copay. (Of course, the "pro-life" movement is fighting this tooth and nail, because preventing abortions isn't really their primary goal.)


I don't think they see the link between that and preventing unplanned pregnancy though, unless they only want to allow for abstinence as the route to that.


If they haven't looked, then they're not serious about what they claim is their overriding goal, which is my point.

Yes, most of them only want to support abstinence. That's because the "pro-life" movement is really about enforcing specific, oppressive sexual mores.
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Susan G. Komen cuts funds to Planned Parenthood. (with updated edit) nossy - 02/02/2012 04:32:27 PM 2503 Views
The most annoying part is in the sixth paragraph- abortions are only a small part of their thing beetnemesis - 02/02/2012 05:08:07 PM 1374 Views
I agree. nossy - 02/02/2012 05:20:17 PM 1256 Views
I can understand it though. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 05:45:55 PM 1340 Views
I can too, it just isn't for me. nossy - 02/02/2012 05:58:33 PM 1263 Views
Actually, there are longer-acting forms of birth control than the pill. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 12:37:42 AM 1249 Views
I do think that preventing abortions is their primary goal. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2012 01:08:05 AM 1207 Views
If they don't see that link, it's because they haven't looked. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 02:42:42 AM 1332 Views
That is a little unfair. Joel - 03/02/2012 12:48:46 PM 1567 Views
Won't someone please think of the children?! Dreaded Anomaly - 04/02/2012 05:03:27 AM 1302 Views
I think you're leaving out some important points. nossy - 04/02/2012 03:40:48 PM 1218 Views
Ah, the good ol' silent majority. Dreaded Anomaly - 04/02/2012 07:32:29 PM 1230 Views
So which moron is feeding you this crap? Ray - 04/02/2012 10:27:15 PM 1261 Views
A zygote isn't a person, because it doesn't have a brain. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 12:33:29 AM 1241 Views
It worries me when we think alike.... Joel - 05/02/2012 01:22:35 PM 1318 Views
Brain waves at 8 weeks are a myth. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 08:46:06 PM 1391 Views
"brain function... appears to be reliably present in the fetus at about eight weeks' gestation." Joel - 05/02/2012 10:42:35 PM 1313 Views
Oh please. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 11:13:50 PM 1257 Views
Re: Oh please yourself. Joel - 06/02/2012 09:15:26 PM 1120 Views
Quite a telling reply. Dreaded Anomaly - 07/02/2012 04:38:20 AM 1230 Views
Re: I quite agree. Joel - 08/02/2012 06:03:23 PM 1426 Views
You're taking an issue of objective facts and treating it like a day of playground gossip. Dreaded Anomaly - 09/02/2012 03:47:06 AM 1251 Views
No, your source, in which there is very little that is objective, did that for me. Joel - 11/02/2012 02:59:45 AM 1293 Views
I see you have continued to provide no factual arguments. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/02/2012 04:53:28 AM 1568 Views
I presented factual rebuttals. Joel - 19/02/2012 01:56:45 AM 1325 Views
You continue to miss the point. Dreaded Anomaly - 23/02/2012 10:22:24 PM 1408 Views
No, I got the point: You expect me to accept a heavily biased, partisan and combative "source." Joel - 07/03/2012 01:47:37 AM 1340 Views
The claim of brain waves at 8 weeks is still unsupported by evidence, i.e. a myth. Dreaded Anomaly - 15/03/2012 09:16:14 PM 1399 Views
Well, yes. nossy - 04/02/2012 11:14:47 PM 1355 Views
A silent majority may as well not exist, if it has no tangible effects. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 12:54:34 AM 1230 Views
You ignoring it is not the same thing as it having no tangible effect. nossy - 05/02/2012 02:11:36 AM 1339 Views
Ignoring what? You haven't shown me anything solid. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 05:25:23 AM 1229 Views
It's ok, we're done. *NM* nossy - 05/02/2012 09:29:05 AM 728 Views
Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. Joel - 04/02/2012 08:25:49 PM 1398 Views
Re: Since few people oppose ADULT contraception access, that might be wise in this case. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 02:11:28 AM 1256 Views
If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Joel - 05/02/2012 08:42:17 AM 1083 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/02/2012 10:04:59 PM 1277 Views
Re: If you are arguing most sex ed opponents are naïve/ignorant, I agree. Joel - 06/02/2012 08:57:38 PM 1204 Views
I'm done discussing my use of the term "oppression." The Tim Ryan stuff is interesting, though. Dreaded Anomaly - 07/02/2012 05:37:05 AM 1349 Views
Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 08/02/2012 06:01:32 PM 1463 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 09/02/2012 05:30:58 AM 1298 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 11/02/2012 02:58:00 AM 1322 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/02/2012 04:29:08 AM 1405 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 19/02/2012 01:54:30 AM 1294 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 23/02/2012 10:59:32 PM 1619 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Joel - 07/03/2012 01:47:44 AM 1291 Views
Re: Yet, regrettably, not done misusing it. Dreaded Anomaly - 15/03/2012 10:27:23 PM 1525 Views
There are problems with the implants LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 01:42:55 AM 1293 Views
Any form of birth control doesn't work for everyone, though. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 02:37:00 AM 1299 Views
Oh yes, I totally agree! My point is just that there are some barriers to handing out implants *NM* LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 03:38:05 AM 609 Views
You have a talent for understatement. Joel - 03/02/2012 01:08:40 PM 1283 Views
What on earth does that have to do with anything? Cannoli - 03/02/2012 01:47:42 AM 1195 Views
I was actually kinda with you until you closed with that anathema I condemned in my response to rt. Joel - 03/02/2012 01:39:06 PM 1257 Views
I agree that they have made Beast Cancer a cult but splitting with PP is just smart Ray - 02/02/2012 05:39:49 PM 1450 Views
I agree. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 06:00:17 PM 1233 Views
yes she is going to have to piss off one group or the other Ray - 02/02/2012 06:12:31 PM 1269 Views
Right nossy - 02/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1315 Views
it is a judgment call and I hope her decision is based on more than my guesses Ray - 02/02/2012 06:53:50 PM 1185 Views
Do you see a way Komen could have avoided pissing off one side? Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 06:55:36 PM 1240 Views
No, I don't. I don't believe I said that? nossy - 02/02/2012 07:53:50 PM 1156 Views
You didn't; I inferred it from the way you phrased that ("if she HAS to..."). Sorry. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2012 08:06:11 PM 1288 Views
I know I'm not always clear. nossy - 02/02/2012 08:32:47 PM 1255 Views
Just curious... Narg - 02/02/2012 10:07:49 PM 1234 Views
Not at all. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:24:19 PM 1276 Views
Not at all? Narg - 02/02/2012 10:32:31 PM 1189 Views
No. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:47:04 PM 1128 Views
My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes Ray - 02/02/2012 11:17:24 PM 1223 Views
Re: My argument is based on my belief that the pro-choice women are more dedicated to women's causes nossy - 03/02/2012 12:08:01 AM 1224 Views
wow that may be the worst advice I had in weeks Ray - 03/02/2012 12:13:18 AM 1217 Views
Ooor, the best. nossy - 03/02/2012 12:25:56 AM 1197 Views
ok now you are just being mean *NM* Ray - 03/02/2012 12:46:12 AM 726 Views
The thread was going too well - I thought we needed the meanness. *NM* nossy - 03/02/2012 11:30:39 AM 666 Views
rabble rouser *NM* Ray - 04/02/2012 04:24:01 AM 737 Views
I misread this at first Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2012 12:51:44 AM 1232 Views
not to mention codeine seems to make me double post Ray - 02/02/2012 11:17:26 PM 2279 Views
I'm not so sure I agree. Or not completely. nossy - 02/02/2012 06:14:11 PM 1169 Views
I don't diagree with the way you see it Ray - 02/02/2012 06:39:41 PM 1248 Views
More inevitable than anything, considering who started Komen. Joel - 02/02/2012 10:19:34 PM 1198 Views
Never having heard of any of those except PP, my opinion may not be the most relevant... Legolas - 02/02/2012 08:32:48 PM 1291 Views
You don't know stuff. nossy - 02/02/2012 08:43:38 PM 1279 Views
I know the stuff that matters. Legolas - 02/02/2012 09:55:08 PM 1171 Views
That's true. nossy - 02/02/2012 10:34:32 PM 1282 Views
they may also be a afraid that PP will go the way of ACORN Ray - 02/02/2012 11:04:16 PM 1315 Views
"Accused" of = unfounded slander. Aeryn - 03/02/2012 12:13:30 AM 1361 Views
did you notice I called tactic disgusting? That doesn't mean it isn't effective Ray - 03/02/2012 12:45:10 AM 1282 Views
The investigation by Congress is well-known to be specious. It's the House GOP abusing their power. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 03/02/2012 12:41:58 AM 749 Views
This is so foreign a debate for me Lews_TherinThelamon - 02/02/2012 10:16:15 PM 1304 Views
Must be nice. *NM* nossy - 03/02/2012 12:26:49 AM 751 Views
Re: stuff rebelaessedai - 03/02/2012 09:18:53 AM 1176 Views
I'm sorry, but what're we talking about when we're talking about "cancer" LadyLorraine - 03/02/2012 12:49:34 PM 1235 Views
Obviously not adenocarcinoma, no. rebelaessedai - 04/02/2012 07:36:06 AM 1319 Views
I"m not that fussed. I'm just generally leary of research that has results like that LadyLorraine - 04/02/2012 08:35:04 PM 1167 Views
Fair enough. rebelaessedai - 04/02/2012 10:17:31 PM 1326 Views
Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. Joel - 02/02/2012 10:54:34 PM 1300 Views
Re: Once I looked up Nancy Brinker at Wikipedia it all made sense. nossy - 02/02/2012 11:03:32 PM 1166 Views
After a little more digging I have to say you are probably right. Joel - 03/02/2012 02:23:14 AM 1112 Views
They restored funding incidentally Isaac - 03/02/2012 05:43:47 PM 1194 Views
Unless I've missed it nossy - 03/02/2012 05:56:15 PM 1251 Views
You must have missed it then Isaac - 03/02/2012 07:07:13 PM 1199 Views
If you're referring to Cannoli nossy - 03/02/2012 07:19:25 PM 1363 Views
Multiple was not an accidental choice of words Isaac - 03/02/2012 11:46:30 PM 1222 Views
Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. nossy - 04/02/2012 12:41:42 AM 1255 Views
Re: Then I agree that maybe this is not the thread for you. Isaac - 04/02/2012 01:53:25 AM 1466 Views
Well, I'll try again for both of us. nossy - 04/02/2012 02:56:42 PM 1289 Views
Re: Well, I'll try again for both of us. Isaac - 04/02/2012 07:40:25 PM 1244 Views
well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision random thoughts - 03/02/2012 06:24:14 PM 1357 Views
Re: well at least there will not be any doubt about this being a political decision Isaac - 03/02/2012 06:29:34 PM 1152 Views
I think that ship sailed long ago. Joel - 03/02/2012 08:45:13 PM 1206 Views
Truth Dannymac - 04/02/2012 02:07:20 AM 1255 Views
I do wonder a bit which lawmakers Fox thinks "pressured" Komen. Joel - 03/02/2012 08:29:50 PM 1185 Views
Beyond the 26 senators, I'd imagine rumor of the more reliable sort Isaac - 03/02/2012 08:46:31 PM 1243 Views
Well, if they wrote AS senators rather than friends of Nancy Brinker, that probably qualifies. Joel - 03/02/2012 10:24:11 PM 1281 Views
Judge for yourself Isaac - 04/02/2012 12:01:06 AM 1310 Views
Well, a public letter makes whether they signed it "Sen. so-and-so" irrelevant: It is political. Joel - 04/02/2012 04:07:20 PM 1226 Views
are you trying to disprove the study you posted? random thoughts - 03/02/2012 09:20:12 PM 1347 Views
To me, it depends on the nature of the contact, which I have not dug enough to discover. Joel - 03/02/2012 10:43:45 PM 1184 Views
you admit you have no incite into what happened Ray - 04/02/2012 04:27:17 AM 1259 Views
Actually, it looks like Komens new VP (and former GOP GA gubernatorial candidate) had the incite. Joel - 04/02/2012 04:24:14 PM 1296 Views
educated guess don't work when you are tinfoil hat wearing kool-aid drinker Ray - 04/02/2012 09:33:49 PM 1217 Views
Dude. nossy - 04/02/2012 11:20:49 PM 1102 Views
Yo mama? Joel - 05/02/2012 05:32:11 AM 1291 Views
whhhhhhyyyyyy nossy - 04/02/2012 11:23:58 PM 1277 Views
Why would I not think that? Joel - 05/02/2012 05:46:15 AM 1126 Views
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